IAN HUTLEY HAS BEEN GIVEN A MINIMUM OF ______40 YEARS

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Threads like these really depress me tbh. This man was given a trial, found guilty and will spend the rest of his life in prison. What more does anyone want? Torturing him forever won't bring those girls back to life, it will just make our whole society more cruel and dismal.

I'd like to see a 'life with no possibility of parole' sentence here, and for it to be an automatic sentence for certain crimes, such a murdering children.

angliz he isnt an animal
its that sort of htinking that dimisses what he did a s a sane adult and stops any introspection at all - he is a result of OUR society.

agree expat

and automatic sentences are well knwon to be a PITA - look att he vitims of doemtstic abuse who kil thir partners adn get no mitigation form thir life sentence form murder.

or poeple who are img over hte drink driving limit with an entirely resonable reason but are still banned for a year under the mandatory banning sytem.

or motheres whoa re mentlaly ill adn kill babies and stil go dwon for murder
mandatory senteces imhfo are a political knee jerk reaction to complex cases.

you lot areounding like dail y mail readers.

'or poeple who are img over hte drink driving limit with an entirely resonable reason but are still banned for a year under the mandatory banning sytem.'

Now that I have NO problem with at all. In fact, I don't think driving with ANY amount of alcohol in your system should be accepted at all and that instead of DUIs a drink driver should be banned. For life.

cod have you read We Need To Talk About Kevin?

no there really are ( rearely) situations wehre pople may be over hte limit by a tiny amount and have to drive.
things arent so black and white

baby is awake so i'm very thankfully bowing out of this.
Cod, sorry but i've pondered over your post and i can't think of a better word for him, none i can post anyway.

no it has dead kids in it doesnt it?

agree with aloha and QoQ. Although of course sentencing should be sensible (and people like Tony Martin shouldn't have be jailed imo).

but surely there is circumstantial evidence to support their cases, so they wont be committed of murder but manslaughter Lc

Thanks Cod, thanks Aloha. For a minute, I thought the Tory party conference had started early. What that man did makes me feel as sick and as angry as the next person but there really are no easy answers if we want to live in a civilised society (and yes, I know what he did was the very opposite of civilised).

agree with cod as well.

I read 'We Need to Talk about Kevin' and it's a bunch of bollocks, IMO. I thought it sucked. Written by some gal who has no kids and clearly has some pretty serious issues. I mean, she changed her name to 'Lionel' as a teen, ffs. I'm gonna write 'We Need to Talk about Lionel - and getting her to a shrink fast'.

lionel?
( hear the tap tap tapping of l blair)

yes cod - sort of post-Columbine - but is told in letters from the mother to her estranged husband, about her take on their son's upbringing..how he got to where he was etc. absolutely fascinating and imo v well written. (ie it's not gruesome, but explores nature/nurture in a non-black-white way)

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lionel shriver.

expat am astonished at your take on it. i know she has no children but still find her exploration of this difficult topic worth reading

I was living in Denver at the time of Columbine. That book was torture! Went on and on, totally implausible and unrealistic, Lionel has an insecure grasp on American culture . . . at best. And it seems like she spewed a lot of her personal issues into the mother's character. She needs help, not a contract w/a publisher.

i think the image of lionel blair may be hard to shift

He's prettier than Lionel Shriver, cod .

Whilst the protective parent in me wants to scream 'string em up by their nuts and have them stoned in the streets', I do on the whole agree with aloha and QoQ.

jimjams - I don't agree re. Tony Martin. He shot an adolescent in the back and killed him. NOt in self-defence, but in defence of his property. IMO it was cold-blooded murder, and T Martin was a very dangerous unstable man. He murdered a potential burglar - which is the worse of the 2 crimes?