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IAN HUTLEY HAS BEEN GIVEN A MINIMUM OF ______40 YEARS

152 replies

RTKangaMummy · 29/09/2005 10:52

JUST ANNOUNCED SO NO DETAILS YET

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ggglimpopo · 29/09/2005 11:43

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bundle · 29/09/2005 11:43

I thought the justice system was there to rehabilitate as well as punish (a bit like being a parent )

waterfalls · 29/09/2005 11:44

I have seen several documentaries where a scary percentage of murderers, rapists, peadophiles etc, admit when interviewed that they will reoffend when they are released, that they just wont be able to help themselves even though they are remorsefull for their previous crimes, And yet they are still released on their paroll dates.

QueenOfQuotes · 29/09/2005 11:45

No - I think they served their terms - and are now "free" (HAHAHAHAHA) to live their lives again.

I do think that sentences should be tougher - but our system as it is at the moment is to blame for them being out earlier than a lot of people thought they should be.

I think sentencing is crazy - 5yrs for mobile phone theft......1yr for child abuse.. - but at the end of the time they served is what our Justice System says they should serve.

I see very little point in holding 'grudges' against people (particularly those who haven't directly affected our friends/families) and you only need to read many newspapers,and websites to see victims of crime who say things along the lines of "lifes too short to be bitter".

I know it myself too, I spent nearly all my life holindg a 'grudge' against someone close to me.....in the last few years I realised there was little point in it, and it was only serving to make my life more stresseful. After some deep soul searching, and legthy talks with this person I put those feelings aside.........interestingly my temper, and sensitivity reduced dramtically and I'm like a different person. I'm certain had I continued to hold this 'grudge' - I'd still have 'issues' stemming from it.

QueenOfQuotes · 29/09/2005 11:48

"Until you have first hand knowledge of what it is like to be a victim you just have no idea. "

I'm presuming - that you have never lost a chld to someone such as Huntley - neither have I - thank God.

However, please don't assume that I've never been a victim of a crime - you know what they say don't judge a book by it's cover.

ggglimpopo · 29/09/2005 11:48

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ggglimpopo · 29/09/2005 11:51

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QueenOfQuotes · 29/09/2005 11:51

"Post prison, the ex con receives all the help that you could imagine "

Yes I know - because they've served their time. Why should the public then be allowed to administer their own justice? Or should we just scrap the entire justice system and go back the middle ages???

QueenOfQuotes · 29/09/2005 11:52

"I have first hand knowledge of very serious crime. "

As I said - don't assume that you know what other 'knowledge' (experience?) people of have serious crimes.

ggglimpopo · 29/09/2005 11:53

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ggglimpopo · 29/09/2005 11:55

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doormat · 29/09/2005 11:56

QQ but why should us the taxpayers fund their secret identities

if it is fear of reprisal, that imo is their lookout as they committed the crime

MrsBubsDeVere · 29/09/2005 12:05

Victims families have to suffer for the rest of their lives, some get killed, whilst the person who committed the crime, is given a sentence and proceeds to get all the mod cons, 3 meals a day, television, video, dvd, can do access courses to get qualifications etc for when they 'get out', all of these things, alot of innocent people cannot afford. And all the time the taxpayers are paying for it.

Yes, they might see the same walls day in day out, but what about the victims families who see photos of loved ones and have all sorts of ideas running through their minds as to what their loved ones suffered.

People who go to prison should have 'NO' luxuries, no fancy food or christmas dinners etc, enough to keep them healthy and they should be made to work for their stay. Its no wonder that people re-offend because they can't adapt to life on the outside, it's because on the outside they have to WORK for a living and whilst they are in the nick they get everything for free.

And what's all this giving them new identities, a waste of time and money, it would be cheaper to keep them out of society.

expatinscotland · 29/09/2005 12:11

I agree, Bubbles.

ggglimpopo · 29/09/2005 12:12

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tiredemma · 29/09/2005 12:14

mrsbubsdevere, I can only speak from personal experience- courses are hard to get onto in prison with approx 200 applicants for a course with only approx 50 places- so not everyone gets achance to do a course.

the reason also (that i have found) that ex- prisoners cannot get work on release has nothing to do with the fact that they are so use to being waited on hand and foot in prison. Its more to do with the fact that A) unsurprisingly, most employers are a little aprehensive about employing ex-cons and B) the majority of prisoners on release will have had little or no education and may not be able to read or write, not good in the real world.

I dont want you to think that im sticking up for criminals- im not. If someone has broken the law then they deserve all punishment to them, but the misconception that prison is like butlins pi**es me off to be honest because it isnt.

That said, i dont think Ian Huntley should ever be released, for lots and lots of reasons.

Angeliz · 29/09/2005 12:18

disgusting
why in Gods name anyone known to have done that even merits a trial is beyond me. lock him up and throw away the key i say, he has given up all his human rights.

When i heard it i just thought, i hope he gets to 69, is just ready to get out and then dies just before!
I know i sound evil but i despise him

QueenOfQuotes · 29/09/2005 12:23

And lets face it - even if we brought back the deathy penatly - would it actually make a difference? I doubt it - the death penalty still exists in many states in America, yet every year more people are put onto death row, violent crime is soaring........"life" (ie no chance of release) and the death penalty don't deter people from commiting crimes....

ggglimpopo · 29/09/2005 12:24

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QueenOfQuotes · 29/09/2005 12:25

"if it is fear of reprisal, that imo is their lookout as they committed the crime"

Then why bother with prison?? why not just put all criminals in the market square (and judging from other posts - lets not even bother with a trial if we "know" they've done something) and let the public onto them???

QueenOfQuotes · 29/09/2005 12:27

I know - lets have a soceity where this happens.

No "prove" - just a 'confession' from him - and then kill instantly - I'd just love my children to have to experience that sort of thing.....wouldn't you???

Angeliz · 29/09/2005 12:28

I'd just love my children to live in a society where animals like him don't exist.

bundle · 29/09/2005 12:32

but animals like him are someone's children..iykwim...sorry am reading We Need To Talk About Kevin atm and thinking a lot about the families of people who commit these savage crimes

LOLcod · 29/09/2005 12:33

animals not a helpful word imo

Angeliz · 29/09/2005 12:35

Oh for the life of me, in MY opinion, he is an animal. he killed two beautiful, gorgeous, INNOCENT angels and i feel really sorry for his family, but not a patch on what i feel for Holly and Jessica's!

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