IAN HUTLEY HAS BEEN GIVEN A MINIMUM OF ______40 YEARS

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I only said extreme cases because of that very problem-I mean when there is NO question that the person was guilty of the very most henious of crimes such as this.

no, I am against torture, it is inhuman.

but execution for cold-blooded murder is justice, and I am for it.

If I were a judge handing out the death sentence for cold or mass murderers, I wouldn't feel like a murderer myself. I would feel the heaviness of taking such a decision, but not feel like a murderer.

But isn't having the death penalty and torture just bad for us as people. It's just sick, inflicting that on other people. I just can't see how someone would be happy knowing that someone was going to be tortured/executed. I don't think Ian Huntley should ever be released, but I don't think it is our right to inflict one of these more extreme punishments - like I said, I believe it would be very bad for us as people.

murdering someone is also inhuman - yes??

so why isn't killing someone as punishment also inhuman??

I just fancy the idea of it-I know its not practical but I do think these monsters literally get away with murder when they spend the rest of their lives inside.

keeping someone locked up is inhuman, yes?

but when this is done as a sentence for some crime, it is justice, yes?

yes peacedove - that's why they reformed the prisons so it wasn't a dark room with rats and no heating.......

I'm American and don't agree w/the death penalty. It's a waste of money, too.

I would like to see life w/no parole, however. With rights of appeal.

Agree with you expat

And I don;'t believe in chopping off the hands of people who steal either peacedove, or stoning people to death. But I know that we have different opinions on Sharia law as well os the death penalty.

"they reformed the prisons"

but give less to NHS patients.

my argument is that if keeping someone locked up is inhuman, but is done as a sentence to carry out justice and to keep a criminal away for somme time, similarly executing someone as a punishment is not inhuman, it is justice.

how is commiting a "legal crime" (which is what it is as homicide is a crime) 'justice'???

And as for Grade 1, Grade 2 food.....the onions I buy at the supermarket are "apparently" grade 2, they look, smell and taste exactly the same as Grade 1....

And atm the moment most of my food is very cheap market food and bettabuy stuff from Morrison....yet I'm still cooking healthy and nutrtious meals (yes I'd love to use organic and free range....but that's another thread).

I don't think it's the money spent on the food that's important - but how it's prepared......so the NHS needs to sort out who's doing it's catering contracts and get decent cooks in!

you don't chop off hands just like that. If the persosn who steals does so out of hunger or some such need, this is mitigating circumstances.

you don't want death for adultery (and btw, it requires four adult witnesses actually catching one in the act for the conviction), get out of the marriage, and contract another with the one you fancy.

I don't see executing cold-blooded murderers as a "legal crime".

If Grade 2 food is that nutritious, why are the prisoners denied the benefit of that food?

oh.........so if the burglar stealing from Tony Martin's house had been doing so because he was homeless and hungry then it would have been ok - and therefore 'wrong' of tony martin to shoot him?

And if he'd been doing it out of greed/drugs - then it's not ok and tony martin was 'right' to shoot him???

Do we not live in the 21st century any more??? On the one hand we have people arguing that giving a child is smack is abuse, and on the other that the death penalty is ok.

who would you employ to torture people? would there be like a training course set up for it with certificates given to the one who can inflict most pain?

Who would want that job? only the kind of people who are murderers, rapists etc. vicious circle.

i cant see how corporal or capital punishment would work in a modern society.

"Execute" - to put to death

"murder" - killing of one human by another

"homicide" The killing of one person by another.

Murder and homicide are against the law. so the killing of one human by another is not legal......but it's ok to kill someone by executing them?

the society has the right to pass sentence after due process of ensuring justice to the accused

the individual does not have the right to excecute people on his own

and apart from satisfying people like yourself - what else does one achieve by executing them?

I dont' believe there's any research (in coutries were capital punishment exists) to suggest that the execution of a murdered in any way significanly "helps" the family of the victim (although I haven't googled it so stand to be corrected).

The process of recovering from a crime, and the grieving process involve much more than simply seein ght perpatrators killed IMO

giving a child a smack

if it is my child or one for whom I am responsible, and the child hasn't understood the language of soft reason, then a certain degree of light punishment to ensure discipline, is not abuse in my book.

satisfaction isn't the issue at all.

It is reducing the chances of similar assaults on people in a society.

Local knowledge has it that Mary Bell and Maxine Carr live in my town

from personal experience i can say that prison is a walk in the park for some people. (not talking murderer scale here but)..

i once had a bf (long, long time ago) who i found out had been in and out of prison for burglary. i asked him once "doesnt it bother you?" he replied..."no, its an easy life and all my friends are in there, i get to see them again". how is that a punishment?

and how does anyone justify the fact that now, as a single mother, if someone broke into my house my first instinct would be to protect my children. ive heard noises before now and i have gone running downstairs with a metal bar. if someone was there i would not hesitate to hit them with it....yet i could be sued or go to prison for that?

as far as im concerned the whole system is wrong.

Hope the b rots in hell, he won't suffer near as much as Holly and Jessica's parents have. Get all the bs or anyone who hurts a child physically in this country, chop off thier bits and sling them all on one island to rot.

Sadly, for crimes as heinous as those perpetrated by Ian Huntley, I don't think there is any punishment that would ever bring about true justice in this world.

But it wouldn't hurt to lock some of these perpetrators away in prison for the rest of their lives. With no chance of release in their mortal lives.