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Fledglings flying into the Roaring Twenties! January 2020 Flylady thread, all welcome.

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LaneBoy · 31/12/2019 22:15

Welcome to the first Flylady thread of the decade! This is a friendly ongoing thread where we follow (loosely. In some cases, very loosely. Blush) the Flylady method for sorting out our homes and lives!

Newbies are always welcome here! It’s a long running thread so please don’t worry if we appear cliquey. There’s a lot of chatter and support for all sorts of things, alongside the housework stuff.

Over recent months we have agreed that big lists of daily links aren’t necessary - on a daily basis I will post (if I remember... it is maybe 18 months since I last hosted so please forgive any screw ups Blush) a link to the launch pad, which is where you can access the information for that day - babysteps, missions, daily focus etc. But if you’re confused about anything, please ask!

Check out the website too - but we suggest not signing up for the millions of emails.

Information on getting started here.

The great thing about Flylady is that you jump in where you are. Everything you do is progress. Don’t worry about not “keeping up”. Any achievement, however small, means progress.

Anyway, huge thank you to Stressy for running our very busy December thread! Thanks

And... HAPPY NEW YEAR FLEDGLINGS!!!

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LaneBoy · 10/01/2020 19:23

Glad to see you that hope you’re ok?
Zoo from what you’ve posted I’m saying NOOOOOO don’t do it! I’d love to think him living there would force him to engage more but I’m not sure that’s true. It would presumably have a big effect on finances too.

So done this evening. DH is unwell too. First takeaway of the year tonight.

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Stilllivinginazoo · 10/01/2020 20:19

We have never lived together chic

KTCluck · 10/01/2020 20:29

Two work days done here and I’m so pleased it’s Friday! I’ve been asked to take the lead on a big project at work, which is exciting but sooo much work, so I’m looking forward to switching off from it for a couple of days.

I cleaned the hob before leaving this morning and put the metal bits (totally brain fart and can’t remember what they are called) in the dishwasher. Also stuck a load of washing in and managed s&s before getting DD sorted and dropping her off at nursery for 7:30.

I’ve also managed to give the dishwasher a thorough clean when I got in it was revolting, work clothes in the wash and this mornings load hung up.

DD has had an epic tantrum before bed then once she calmed down has crashed in my arms. Need to put her in bed so I can go down for dinner but I’m enjoying the cuddle.

Lane pleased Cagletini’s taster session went well. DD used to be a bit tearful when I left and picked her up but was fine as soon as I left or the second before she saw me. She races in now.

Chic hope your hand isn’t too painful and heals well. I’d definitely milk it!

Well done on the new job Hazel!

Zoo sounds like you’ve been doing lots of organising! I’d say if your DP is moving in it should be because it’s what you all want, not because circumstances are dictating it. Hope DD has had a better day today.

Bower hope you’re feeling better after your upsetting meeting.

I’m about to deposit DD and head downstairs for food and wine. Fingers crossed for a smooth transfer...

ChicCroissant · 10/01/2020 20:42

He's not speaking at mo/in sulk.i suspect he's mulling on what happens now and cross I've not instantly said move in

Hmm, this doesn't exactly inspire confidence does it?

ChicCroissant · 10/01/2020 20:43

Well done on the new project KT, def wine o'clock by now surely - hope the transfer went well!

Tinselette1940 · 10/01/2020 21:59

Apologies - work load and I think a slight touch of pleurisy. Not been posting but trying to catch up now.

Strategicchoring · 10/01/2020 22:35

Agree the sulking is not a good immediate sign. Very difficult conundrum Zoo. Would you feel more supported with him there permanently (in which case that in turn may be a good thing for your and dc mh) or would you feel more depleted (not good for your or dc mental health)?

Even if you suggest him moving in on a temporary basis, it might not give you a true idea of how things may be in the future as he will be "on trial" ifyswim so not a true reflection.

Could you go out alone for a meal/coffee/walk/drive somewhere and discuss it without the dc around when you could share your concerns with him, and lay out your expectations, and discuss financial matters and also a plan B should it not work out (if a plan B is possible that is)?

If he isn't prepared to discuss it all openly and acknowledge his weaker points (which we all have) and agree to certain conditions without getting defensive or huffy then I think you have your answer. If he is willing to discuss however and continue to try seriously ... then ... you have a decision on your hands ... good luck with it! Flowers

Or another suggestion is to judge it on a "gut" level. Do you still get a small "flip" in yr stomach (in a good way! Grin) when you hear him come in the front door, or do you feel indifference/does your heart sink?

Having said that, I never thought I would say this, but love is not enough is it. You can love someone to death but if they are not committed, reliable, making a genuine effort etc, in action as well as words (to the best of their individual ability) it's no good imho. And particularly no good for the dc.

It also depends on your dynamic as well Zoo and whether you will still feel in control of your own home if he moved in permanently, or whether it's important for you to have time without him to recharge?

I know it is your own instinct to consider everyone else before yourself, but I think you should put your own wellbeing very much to the forefront on this point as you are the one that keeps the show on the road as it were.

Maybe one of the conditions could be to only agree on the basis that you as a couple have a weekly private assessment of how it is all going and that he would willingly move to plan B on your say so with immediate effect should you be having to revert to "parenting" him again or if he is draining you of energy and patience?

Bravo to Cagletini! Hope she sleeps well tonight Lane! Hope your dh feels better soon.

A very, very busy day but did have a long lunch with lovely friend in middle of it which kept me going! Too tired to write list but loads done especially loads of laundry. House moved on a lot in terms of tidying but Christmas still hasn't been banished entirely although nearly there. Determined to take dec boxes up to roof by end of this weekend. And to disperse piles of presents properly and check all thank you letters have been written.

Cherry waves to all fledglings! G'night all and have a good weekend!

Strategicchoring · 10/01/2020 22:36

Sorry didn't mean that to be so long!

Pleurisy Tinselette oh no? That sounds terrible Flowers Wishing you a very speedy recovery indeed.

ExpletiveDelighted · 10/01/2020 23:37

Evening all,

Just been to see Little Women, it was great, I loved the books as a girl and this was such a good interpretation.

Zoo - I have a friend in similar yet different circumstances to you. Similar in the ages of children, MH conditions etc. She is married to their father but getting divorced due to the strain of it all, no 3rd parties involved. Which makes me feel that in your shoes I would be wary. Also a big change for dd2 in her gcse year. I know things aren't perfect between you but if it ain't broke don't try and fix it. There will be support on this thread whatever you decide Flowers.

Bowerbird5 · 11/01/2020 00:49

Haven’t caught up on chat oday.

Slept in. Well I woke at 7:30am but didn’t get up and fell back asleep and woke later and did the same. My mind wanted to get up but eyes were saying no. Felt very doped. I am on meds. Ended up awake at 10:30am and got up at 11. I guess I must have needed to catch up as not been sleeping more than four hours for at least a fortnight as was anxious about meeting. No, not feeling any better about it.

No flying at all. Went to opticians and it took 2 1/2 hours then we went for a coffee. Marks for fish home for tea and piece of DS3 cake and then salmon etc.
Watched Corrie which was so funny and the new David Tennant I thought it was filmed in the Lakes because my friend saw him down the Lakes recently. She swooned I think. It was very good -something Fell. Then I watched about the Raffles Hotel. This was really strange as the young man helping chose my glasses and I were talking about travel. He didn’t know about the Raffles Hotel. I have been to it several times for a Singapore Sling in the Long Bar. I think my dad might have stayed there and it is on my bucket list.

Will catch up tomorrow.

Stilllivinginazoo · 11/01/2020 06:31

As ever thanks for non judgemental advice everyone!where would I find people like you guys in RL?❤️
KT CONGRATULATIONS
Tinselette feel better soon

I have reached sad levels regarding clothes folding.i have discovered square folding of socks to try and "egg roll" for pants

I also located a pin boardand am planning messages (daily if I remember) to make zoolets chuckle

THAT90sBITCH · 11/01/2020 06:50

Morning all Brew

Just catching up on last couple of days

Happy (late) birthday to willow and your baby racheal! 🎂

THAT90sBITCH · 11/01/2020 06:56

zoo i like your fridge boxes where are they from? I wonder if they might help my own fridge issues. When i put away shopping in the fridge everything has a place, when anyone else returns anything to the fridge they just dump it on the middle shelf Angry obviously it is too difficult to reach up or down Confused

THAT90sBITCH · 11/01/2020 07:14

willow i may try your surface dumping box! I may also assign someone to emptying it daily .....

zoo i am so sorry your dd is struggling like this, i can only imagine how difficult it must be for you.

I have been buying boxes and baskets etc this week too. Got rid of two bags of clothes to charity and have been working through all the toys etc downstairs. Thrown some stuff out. Went through all the craft stuff and emptied all the half used kits into one box as they were taking up so much space. Still need to do the lower cupboard, playdoh, pens and pencils and activity books. I have been trying to make the living rooms look like like a creche. Toys are still there but tidier and partly hidden.

DC4 has just done his first week of (school) nursery. He has loved it and done so well i am very proud of him and so happy he enjoyed it.

I have started looking at job possibilities for end of my mat leave as i have no desire to return to previous hell hole. My mat pay stops end of March

Congrats on job hazel! Star
Glad nursery going well lane!

I don't really know where this week went. I thought i would have more time on my hands with DC4 at school but apparently not!

THAT90sBITCH · 11/01/2020 07:19

All caught up now!

Everyone seems busy! Hope anyone feeling down / unwell is on the mend. I am fine just busy!

I passed my fourth uni essay Grin happy days!

I am up with dcs 3 and 4, everyone else is sleeping. Since being poorly the baby is back on 3am feeds but the sleeping til 8ish so i suppose i should use this time!

IWillWearTheGreenWillow · 11/01/2020 08:28

Morning. Tinselette that sounds awful (and isn't "a touch of pleurisy" like "a little bit dead"?), hope you are better soon. Bower hope you can continue to catch up on sleep and put meeting stress behind you. Zoo - tough decision. Please try to put yourself first in this - don't allow him to move in just because it solves his problem and he expects it. You're dealing with quite enough already. The only genuine hurdle to jump here is "will it make your life easier or harder?". That, pleased the baby is better and DC4 is enjoying "school". Lane, really please Cageltini enjoyed nursery. Hope it gets you some much-needed mental and physical space. Hazel, congrats on the new job! Chic, hope your hand is less sore (but stay away from the washing up just in case, for a couple of years or so, ok?). SC, pleased the house is appearing from under Christmas stuff. Cherry waves all round.

Had a very strange couple of days here. So much going on and so many plates to spin that I keep bursting into tears over stupid things multiple times a day. Sobbed all over my therapist for an hour first thing Thursday and am simply not keeping the house or the family together. DS1 has gone back to Uni and the house feels very strange, but also suddenly like a shit tip after 2 days of not flying.

The other shoe dropped on DH's Adventures In Driving yesterday, with a speeding fine. Except he was sufficiently above the variable motorway limit that he might be looking at 2 months with his licence suspended and I'm terrified of how that will work and ashamed that he did it at all. All we can do is wait and see, but the extra weight of worry may be a step too far for me.

KTCluck · 11/01/2020 09:32

Willow so sorry you’re having such a tough time of it. You have so much on your plate and you really can’t do it all. I bet you are keeping the house and family more together than you are giving yourself credit for. Do you have much on today? Can you do small chunks of busyness interspersed with some time to relax, read, go for a walk etc? You need to take care of yourself as well as everyone else.

Well done on the essay That.

‘A touch of pleurisy’ sounds awful Tinselette, hope you’re feeling better soon.

I had a little bit too much wine last night and sat up with DH until 1:30, which I can’t remember doing since before DD. Feeling a little ropey this morning as a result but it was lovely to just sit and chat. He’s been telling me his plans for sorting all his crap out and how he’s trying to buy less clothes / trainers. I’m hoping he’s finally on board with the more minimalist lifestyle that I dream of. He also confessed that as it’s my birthday tomorrow he’s arranged for a baby sitter for a few hours so he can take me for some nice food tonight so I’m looking forward to that.

We’ve all had breakfast, dishes are done and washing is in. Finishing my cuppa then it’s my version of the homeblessing downstairs (dusting, floors hoovered and mopped, stairs hoovered) a bit of thorough cleaning in the kitchen and s & s. Also want to wash the bedding today. That’s my flying plans for today. Otherwise there’ll be a walk and DD wants to make cakes.

Have a lovely Saturday everyone.

KTCluck · 11/01/2020 09:38

Oh and Willow, with regards to your DH’s speeding, whatever the outcome is will be the same whether you worry about it now or not. I know it’s easy to say, and not easy to do, but try not to spend too much energy stressing about it now until you know whether it’s going to be a problem. I have to remind myself this a lot if there’s potentially a problem coming up - I can’t change it right now so what the point in wasting energy on it. It’s impossible to totally get rid of the worry but it does help me to minimise it a bit.

rachael12345 · 11/01/2020 09:53

I started reading that declutter book by Dana whatsit the other night - God stayed up til midnight! What a saddo - it's really good and has totally inspired me. Thanks for the reccomendat ion.

Live in your house for your life as it is now - not the one where you might need fancy sherry glasses, or whatever your hoarded stuff is. ..
Have cleared out a whole cupboard in daughters room to remove it so she has space to dance around ! (Admittedly with help) . It did was full of ds clothes plus random crap. Managed to put all his stuff in three small drawers in our room - he has no bedroom as yet poor kiddo.

In other news I totally sympathise with zoo abd MH partner. Tbh it feels like I'd quite like 2 homes for my beloved misery and i atm. Apparently helena bonham carter and her dh do this so we're in good company . He's a v well known film director I can't remember name as babe has the cold and dd as nightmares so have barely slept. ... can I have 3 coffees before 10 ? 😣😣😣😣

TooStressyTooMessy · 11/01/2020 09:57

You can absolutely have 3 coffees before 10am rachael!

Willow Flowers.

Not sure if it has been said yet but for dumping stuff on surfaces... would strategically placed boxes or trays help?

ChicCroissant · 11/01/2020 10:20

Pleurisy is incredibly painful, I hope you are doing OK Tinselette Flowers

If you can't thread a sewing machine while it is running you haven't had enough coffee yet rachael Put some sugar in the next one as well Grin As for the film director that was Tim Burton I think, lived in a house next door but they are not together now.

Willow look after yourself and try not to future-worry - it doesn't change anything, although it is so much easier said than done Flowers

Finger much less hurty in general now, but still smarts near any heat. May brave taking the dressings off later and change them. I've managed the 48 hours dry but will try and cover it for a few more days. I have got a phone number to ring during the week if I have any problems with it.

DD has her activity this morning so will need to get her moving soon, and I'll do some shopping while she is in there. DH has bought some Slimming World ready meals so we'll have one of those instead of a takeaway tonight Hmm Hope they are good, he won't consider ready meals at all normally.

Catch you later fledglings!

THAT90sBITCH · 11/01/2020 10:24

I would frequently like separate houses

TooStressyTooMessy · 11/01/2020 11:48

Glad your finger is feeling better Chic. Big wing flaps to everyone else and thanks for links etc Lane.

Ta da:-
Morning routine
DDs’ swimming lessons
DD2 at an activity
DH I hope is going food shopping

IWillWearTheGreenWillow · 11/01/2020 11:52

You're all quite right, future-worrying doesn't help and is just borrowing trouble, as my Nanna used to say. I've said my bit to DH about seeking legal advice now and will try to put it down. The outcome will be what it is, and we will deal with it whatever. Que sera sera.

I have cleared the utility room by dispatching DH to the tip and the charity shop with the boxes that were in there. I know what is for tea. It's DD's day to run washing. Willowhound is walked. I am in a hot bath with a cup of coffee, some very dark chocolate and my book, hopefully this will reset me. Low carb eating restarts on Monday.

Thank you for being such a lovely supportive group of people, even if I wouldn't know you if I fell over you IRL! ♥️

Bowerbird5 · 11/01/2020 12:58

Me too. DH has worked away from home for 30 plus years. Two or three weeks off then the same at home less 2 days travelling. I’m just getting used to him being home.

Feeling a bit better today thanks.
We discovered yesterday that M&S make whole sausage pigs in blankets. We’ve just had them with an 1/2 egg in their lovely soft rolls.
Done nothing yet. Lazy mare. Need to go into boudoir and sort out what is in the baskets.

Zoo I would make a list of pros and cons. On the con side he will have “stuff” that needs to be housed and probably someone else to pick up after.
Tinselette pleurisy is awful I had it several times in my twenties when I moved to Scotland. Take plenty of rest as it takes a while to get over.

Thatbrilliant about passing essay when you had so much to do.
SC DH is taking ours to the loft today. He went and bought some more boxes. So one for wall paper and Christmas paper. We have
A large one for decorations with tins hosting the delicate decs.

Hazel congrats on new job.

Willow let’s face it lots of people go over the limit on the motorway. You shouldn’t do it but not many people can hold their hand up and say they haven’t occasionally. He might get the awareness programme.

Chic glad it is getting better.

KTC good to challenge ourselves from time to time. Hope it goes well.

Wing flaps to everyone else.

Ta Das
Got up.
Fed cat. Cleaned her ears much to her disgust.
Made brunch.

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