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New year, new organisation! Fledglings fly in 2018.

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TooStressyForMyOwnGood · 31/12/2017 19:17

Hello all and Happy New Year!

A warm welcome to the January Flylady thread. This is a lovely friendly thread where we loosely follow the Flylady system (see the Flylady website) in the hope of having organised homes and lives.

Every day the thread leader (me this month) posts links and missions from the Flylady site and also some friendly (!) personal comments. This is quite a ‘talky’ thread but we try our hardest not to be cliquey and new members are very welcome! Typically there are a lot of new members in January so I will do my best to keep track of everybody Smile.

Old members, as you know there have been a few issues with links at times so if there is some chopping and changing over the month with the links then that is why. Please note that Flylady is (understandably) keen for people to click on her site so please do have a look around the site and the links.

On the website there is information for beginners. You can also sign up to the Flylady emails but we would advise caution as there are hundreds of them.

We post our achievements (ta das) and our to do lists and any other general chatter about life / flying.

Information on getting started: www.flylady.net/d/getting-started/

The launch pad is also a good starting place:www.flylady.net/c/lp.php

Fly stands for Finally Loving Yourself. The general idea is that short bursts of tidying / organisation are more achievable than marathon efforts. Flylady advises 15 minute bursts is effort but you can tweak this to fit your own circumstances.

I’m sure lots of you have New Years Resolutions to be organised and to declutter, as I do every year Grin. Be kind to yourselves and careful not to crash and burn!

I am risking making two:-
Go to bed at 11pm unless decent reason why not.
Spend less time on my phone.

Here are the links for Monday 1st Jan. although I am linking these then if you are treating today as a holiday (as much as is possible in real life anyway!) then feel free to take today off.

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Here is the daily summary for Monday (also available on the Flylady website at flight plan which should update automatically each day).

I’m afraid I start the year confused Blush. I’ve just looked on the Flylady website and the link to the zone and missions is here which indicates we will be in zone 5 which is the living room. I would have thought the month starts in zone 1 but I know this has happened before, I think SC explained? TBH after Xmas I think most living rooms could use a bit of work so it won’t hurt Smile. Apologies if this is confusing.

Re. zones, do what works for you. I don’t always stick to the zones myself and do what works best at the time, with varying degrees of success!

Spend 15 mins decluttering, or whatever you can manage, in Zone 5.

When you have finished decluttering, the detailed cleaning list (if you are at that stage) for Zone 5 is here.

daily focus

missions for the week

Flykids mission

January’s habit is shining your sink.

beginner babysteps.

Happy flying everyone.
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ememem84 · 15/01/2018 08:53

To do

  • baby group
  • washing out and another third load in
  • take bins out
  • take empty bottles out
  • Mop kitchen floor
  • de-lamb the kitchen/living area. Dh roasted a leg of lamb yesterday. It was delicious but now everywhere smells lamby.
HillsBesideTheSea · 15/01/2018 08:53

Yes I enjoyed the adventuring. It was very relaxing adventuring until the arguing with ds started on the way home

Poor kid is soo tired this morning. You know the rumours where teenagers eat you out of house and home, and grow inches over night. It is not a lie. I repeat it is not a lie! Ds has literally grown inches this weekend, never known him to sleep so well either he is exhausted by it. it is not helping his mood But he has gone to school and is grounded today so should be able to get his homework done at a reasonable time for an early night IF i can convince to go to bed

So the plan today:
Room rescue the lounge - we have visitors this afternoon of the more official kind
laundry
folding
ironing
put clothes away
Find out what coffee people visited use as it is much nicer than what is here!
unpack
deal with homework issue
Clean through downstairs
clean bathrooms
etc
etc
etc

can I just hide under the duvet and pretend it is not going to happen? No? suppose you'd better find the pointy stick then. I don't want to move

Stilllivinginazoo · 15/01/2018 09:08

For hills---->
(Halfhearted prod)

Afreshcuppateaplease · 15/01/2018 09:15

-->> come on hills

We have a 9 year old ds as well as the 8 year old. He does hw with very little fuss. He is more compliant in general though. Ds will argue over the smallest request.

I dislike tales of terrible teens, particularly ones that are expensive.

Glad your rotas worked well zoo

We were pretty organised this morning but still managed to leave the house late because of ds2 arguing

Callmecordelia · 15/01/2018 09:25

What a horrible school run that was.

Anyway...

Ta da
Vacuumed everywhere I could get to
Dusting
Two loads of washing done and out
Ocado delivery away

To do
Sew on beaver badges
Sort out bedroom because it looks a mess
Remainder of home bleugh (my version) - finish vacuuming, clean bathrooms, wash kitchen floor.

Waves to everyone, sorry not been around much. Real life took over, not a lot of flying.

HillsBesideTheSea · 15/01/2018 09:59

It is hard when you are a teenager to see that pissing about in a subject because you are bored means you won't end up in the right set to get the right options for GCSEs so that you can take the right A levels for the job you want. When you are Yr8 Yr12 is forever away...

Ds cooked tea for me when we got in last night. Teenagers are not all bad. And let's be honest, it is hard been a teenager, no way in hell I would do it again!

HillsBesideTheSea · 15/01/2018 09:59

It is hard when you are a teenager to see that pissing about in a subject because you are bored means you won't end up in the right set to get the right options for GCSEs so that you can take the right A levels for the job you want. When you are Yr8 Yr12 is forever away...

Ds cooked tea for me when we got in last night. Teenagers are not all bad. And let's be honest, it is hard been a teenager, no way in hell I would do it again!

Afreshcuppateaplease · 15/01/2018 10:22

I was an awful teenager. The one your mum did not want you to be friends with. Blush

TooStressyForMyOwnGood · 15/01/2018 11:46

Absolutely Bower, this thread is fab Smile.

Smile at futility room Fooland. Sympathies to you and everyone else on the homework issue. I am trying to work out strategies for it too although my two are younger so we don’t have lots. Current plan is to do it out of the house as much as possible as we frequently have gaps when one child is doing an activity and the other is waiting for their turn or they are both waiting eg at swimming. So far so good but we are only a week in and as I said, less heavy homework than a lot of you.

So glad the lost helped zoo.

Whispers, it sounds as if you didn’t have much chance to be productive yesterday so don’t worry.

Oh dear Afresh. You seem to have turned into a lovely person now though Grin.

Totally agree Hills, who would want to be a teenager?

Well done for surviving school run Callme. Don’t worry about not being around, just jump in where you can as Flylady says.

Good to hear from you Grey.

Waves to Ememem, Cag and everyone else.

Ta da:-
Morning routine
Went for run
Made phone call I had been putting off - one of those utility / insurance type ones that for some reason I hate making. It was fine and easy so not sure why I dread them Confused.

To do:-
Decluttering in my ‘other room’ for zone 3 (yes, amazingly I am working in the correct zone) which is our study / spare room.
Lunch and make extra to take for girls packed tea after school
Did have some other things but can’t remember

Supposedly look into some more freelance work but that may need to be tomorrow as it took a while getting all into together for the phone call earlier and it was more of a priority.

Must go as I am hungry and need to make lunch Smile.

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foxessocks · 15/01/2018 12:29

Aaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrgggggghhhh ds will not have his nap! He fell asleep five mins from home in the car. I transferred him to his cot. He woke up. Now he thinks that he has done his nap. He's crying and I feel like crying. I don't know why I don't just give up but I just so so so so want a BREAK.

Anyway. I'll write my to do list just to make myself even more miserable. Maybe by the time I've finished he'll be asleep! ?!?

Ta da
Daily routine downstairs
Dusted downstairs
Bought cat food
Made dd packs lunch and dropped at nursery

To do
Finish daily routine
Dust upstairs
Hoover upstairs
Mop
Swish and swipe bathroom
Change towels tea towels etc etc
Strip bed
Empty all the bins

He's a still crying. And saying "nope nope nope" . Sigh. One of those days. And we were doing so well earlier.

foxessocks · 15/01/2018 12:30

Oh damnit forgot

To do
Take bottles to bottle bank
Declutter in utility room

Afreshcuppateaplease · 15/01/2018 13:03

I really really really want the rain to stop by 2pm. Anyone know how i can make this happen?

Subtleconstraints · 15/01/2018 13:34

Hi all. Wow! Really impressive lists everyone!

Hills sympathies re hwk/setting etc. The state system here demands that DC have to virtually decide on their career choices aged 13/14 yrs (far too young imho) as (outside of core subjects) they are forced to choose between the arts or sciences. It's all to do with some pedagogical theory about teen brain plascicity and catching them at peak academic performance (in terms of absorption of info) which, according to them, is when they are 14 & 15 yrs of age etc (which is also the age when, shall we say, the less ideal features of adolescence make themselves felt - so not an easy combination!).

Weirdly, that makes these current yrs (3ieme & 4ieme secondaire) the hardest academically, and then it eases off slightly in our equiv of sixth form (although DC start secondary a yr later here so it's not quite the same) ). Anyway the upshot of all of this is that you specialise, imho, far too early. DD is quite creative but she has gone for hard sciences because of her career choice but who knows what she will want to being doing in reality 5 yrs time?

Don't get me wrong, the level of education is very high, it's just that I would prefer DD to be able to be like my nieces and nephew in the UK and study a broad selection of subjects ie take art and maths together! After all, it must be a tiny number of students who know what they want to do in life, aged 13 yrs!! (Rant over.)

Having said all of that, this educational theory does seem to be working for DD. As many of the long-timers on this thread know, I used to be endlessly nagging DD about hwk (and showering) from the ages of about 8 yrs right up to the end of her 13th year. Then something seemed to "click" miraculously in her brain once she turned 14 and she began to be self motivated and the reason for studying seem to make sense to her. So don't give up everyone!!!

I'm not saying that there aren't still challenges (wrangling her phone off her for eg) and she's not top of the class by any means (she faces linguistic challenges and needs tutoring in two subjects) but everything is hugely better in terms of autonomy.

So just posting to say to those of you with 8-12 year olds - do not despair - there is light at the end of the tunnel!

The counter side to this though and the strangest thing about teens is that they do regress in other ways. So what used to be your eight or nine year old willing, inquisitive, nimble and competent little helper, in many cases turns almost overnight in to a surly, slow, clumsy forgetful, reluctant sloth! The thing to bear in mind, it's all about brain plasticity again (going through as many changes as a toddlers brain I think) so to a large extent, it's not their fault and they can't help it! (Even though this drives you spare! Grin). So you see, you couldn't help it Afresh!! Grin

So, going back to chore lists mentioned by Zoo and Toostressy for the above reasons, I have reduced dd's to:

-hang up coat and pair shoes on stair step

  • put rubbish in bin
  • put clean clothes away
  • put dirty clothes in laundry panier in bedroom and bring down every Fri pm after school together with dirty sports kit
-place used mugs, cups, plates in kitchen -hang wet towels up in bathroom to dry (and don't leave them damp on bedroom floor) -leave phone downstairs charging at night
  • remember phone, travel card, lunch, key, money on school mornings

And that is it! I confess I have given up with her doing other regular chores, although she does cook/ set table/walk dog/ empty DW on an as hoc basis and she helps with (obligatory) wkly family bed-making.

Tbh, I'm lucky if a third of first list is done, but as long as she is studying and showering without complaint, then I am happy! Although that is probably a very slack approach!

Sorry for essay! I am feeling a bit rough, stuck in surgeon's office waiting room, post tests, trying not to puke! Using Mnsnet as a distraction!

Glad the nausea has passed Afresh take it steady (if/where possible)!

So glad you had a good Sunday Cag!

Hope your day improves Callme!

Yay to crafts Whispers!

Slightly wobbly wing flaps to everyone else!

Subtleconstraints · 15/01/2018 13:54

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Oh no Foxes Flowers Brew Cake sorry you are having such a crap afternoon.

Pouring down here too Afresh

Meant to say about hwk strategies - one thing that worked for me when dd was at her most bolshy reluctant was to set up a "hwk club" at home. So; always at the same time for same duration every week day after school, clear a table, make it look appealing (flowers/snacks) all distractions off, including phones, and you the parent just sit there, with your child, until it is done. (I did my own work at same time.) Not doing it for them but available for help when necessary. This of course is entirely impractical if work hrs do not allow, you are rushing to get tea, looking after other littles etc and the last resort, but I found it did help DD to establish good study habits eventually.

The other thing our ed pyschologist suggested (dd saw her for eight sessions when she was nine yrs) was to find out what type of learner your child is: auditory, kinisthetic (learn by listening or doing hands-on, ) or by visual learning etc. (There are loads of resources on line about this and I am sure Bowerbird and others can supply more info! ). Anyway, the trick is to help your child learn in the way that suits them best. Dd is a mix of auditory and visual and responded to music repetition (for learning multiplication tables for example) and now uses lots of flash cards which she decorates for exam revision. HTH!

Anyway, sorry, back to Flying ...Wink

HillsBesideTheSea · 15/01/2018 13:55

Ta da
Room rescue lounge
Hoover through downstairs and up the stairs
bathroom part cleaned
3 loads of washing done
4 loads of hand washing done - 1 currently soaking
Folding
meal planning
my clothes away for now well I am in the process of creating more Hmm
Laminate some stuff
Air ds' room out
Collect a pile of charity shop stuff
take out recycling stuff

I am about to open the door to the craft room. Might get a tad lost. Send help if you do not see me by tea time. Blush

unlimiteddilutingjuice · 15/01/2018 13:55

Hello again,

Its been a bit slow progress this week.
Nonetheless, I have continued with after dinner and evening routines (morning routine? Ahahahahaha!) and have also cleared three kitchen drawers and one large box of clutter.
DH predictably angry with me for chucking out some stuff which he had left, unloved, in a cardboard box in the centre of the kitchen for 3 weeks.
I told someone at Dd's playgroup that I'm doing flylady and she was super excited and asks me about de-cluttering every time I see her now!
Onwards and upwards!

HillsBesideTheSea · 15/01/2018 13:59

Those types of learning have been disproven these days. And whilst the schools are still bound to use them because ofsted still like them there is pressure from top ed psycs to scrap them as it is not actually affecting the learning or benefiting the long term results. There was some interesting research papers lurking about on it.

In the case of ds it is just he hates anything that requires him to put anything in because he is a lazy toad. And he is stubborn so would rather spend 3 hours yelling rather than 20-30mins doing the homework.

Subtleconstraints · 15/01/2018 14:21

That doesn't surprise me Hills as educational theory is about 30 yrs behind over here I think! Would be v interested to see those papers/latest research. Just offering it as a suggestion, as it has proved v helpful to DD (selecting and having control over the "manner" in which she studied made her dread the prospect of hwk less ifyswim).

foxessocks · 15/01/2018 14:23

Well ds did go to sleep at last and is still sleeping now..I'll probably have to wake him to go out in the rain and pick dd up so that will please him Hmm

Anyway

Ta da
Daily routine almost done
Towels, tea towels changed
Dusted upstairs
Swept and mopped kitchen
Emptied kitchen bin

To do
Empty upstairs bins
Swish and swipe bathroom
Strip bed
Mop bathroom
Hoover upstairs
Bottle bank (hmm maybe not in this weather?! permission to put off until tomorrow?!)
Declutter in utility room (I like futility room better btw)
Put laundry away

foxessocks · 15/01/2018 14:23

Sounds like your day hasn't been a walk in the park either sc hope all ok Flowers

Subtleconstraints · 15/01/2018 14:24

Allowed her to overcome her initial reluctance ifyswim.

Do the theories about the different ways boys and girls learn still stand btw, as that was tied in to it?

Subtleconstraints · 15/01/2018 14:26

Foxes yay for sleeping babes! Hope nursery run goes ok!

Subtleconstraints · 15/01/2018 14:40

Thanks Foxes I feel less shaky/sick now. Waiting for dh to pick me up. Great lists btw!

No Flying achieved today whatsoever! Heigh ho!

HillsBesideTheSea · 15/01/2018 15:08

I think what ever works for the child is what works. Totally agree with control. Suggested to ds that we turn his revision into a game last year. That idea went down like a lead balloon. Hmm

Iirc I think the basic point was that the whole thing being beneficial to specific kids was over egged. including differences between the sexes. There was a certain amount of evidence that since introducing the system that on the whole education standards were down but the gap between high achievers and low achievers was slightly shortened. But that just goes with whole issue of working to the lowest common denominator theory of education.

Fuck knows tbh. I just wish they would put a stop to this nonsense about everything being fun. Life is not always fun and it can come as a huge shock to some. Particularly as the majority of life is very much not fun but that is perfectly normal and to be expected.

I forgot my allergy medicine this morning. My sinused hate me and I am currently some sort of mutant snot monster. Not helped by having to liberally apply insecticide due to evidence of moths again Sad

Subtleconstraints · 15/01/2018 15:11

Oh God yes Hills about dressing up everything to be fun. Couldn't agree more. It's just not realistic and is ultimately, rather unfair I think.

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