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Europe has 6 weeks of jet fuel left *[title amended]

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Plump82 · 16/04/2026 19:12

What's people's thoughts on this - is it scare mongering?
My main holiday isn't for another wee while but are we going to see disruptions/cancellations to rival COVID times?

  • [Title amended at OP's request to make it clear that news reports are referring to jet / aviation fuel]
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justasking111 · 17/04/2026 19:55

DH said North sea oil produces jet fuel unfortunately not enough for all. Norway own the fields apparently.

Mumandcarer80 · 17/04/2026 19:58

Think there’s going to be an increase in electric car sales. Noticed there are a lot more public electric charging points. 1 local retail park had non a few weeks ago. Now there’s 10 but you can sit in Costa while your car charges so sales will go up there.

Snakebite61 · 17/04/2026 20:01

Plump82 · 16/04/2026 19:12

What's people's thoughts on this - is it scare mongering?
My main holiday isn't for another wee while but are we going to see disruptions/cancellations to rival COVID times?

  • [Title amended at OP's request to make it clear that news reports are referring to jet / aviation fuel]

This is what you get for treating trump and netanyahu as normal politicians/human beings. They are neither.

MabelsBeats · 17/04/2026 20:12

Electric car @wimin123🤣

Tulipslove · 17/04/2026 20:38

People are being massacred across the Middle East, in Iran, in Lebanon, in Gaza, also in Sudan, and you’re all just talking about your holidays being affected. The dissonance is astounding.

Peony1985 · 17/04/2026 20:49

Tulipslove · 17/04/2026 20:38

People are being massacred across the Middle East, in Iran, in Lebanon, in Gaza, also in Sudan, and you’re all just talking about your holidays being affected. The dissonance is astounding.

Must be AI.
No one human is this simplistic.

justasking111 · 17/04/2026 21:12

Tulipslove · 17/04/2026 20:38

People are being massacred across the Middle East, in Iran, in Lebanon, in Gaza, also in Sudan, and you’re all just talking about your holidays being affected. The dissonance is astounding.

You're in holidays, not politics.

crackofdoom · 17/04/2026 22:10

deplorabelle · 17/04/2026 13:19

If you regularly travel long distance and international by train you'll know that rail reliability is not something you can completely handwave away.

I'm.a complete evangelist for travelling by train. I love it and I'm committed to it as a low carbon form of travel. I've travelled extensively for both work and leisure, putting in full days of travel (just back from Italy this week; have taken toddlers to Prague on the train, etc)

BUT train travel still lags behind air travel in that it's a major pain in the butt to book. High speed trains have a very short booking horizon, and anything with multiple legs will need a heap of contingency. High speed trains sell out rapidly in peak travel times so you can't make plans before you know you can get a reservation. RENFE sometimes don't release tickets until a few weeks before departure.

This makes multi leg itineraries quite fragile and hard to plan. For example, Seat 61 recommends a minimum two hour window to change between Eurostar and another mainline station in Paris and I'd agree with this even though Gare de Lyon is an 8 minute RER ride from GduN and Paris Metro is much more reliable than TfL.

Northern Spain, Netherlands, North East Italy, most of Germany and Switzerland are all beautifully accessible by train. But Scandinavia, Southern Italy,, Greece and the Adriatic and Portugal are all a bit of a mission and labour of love to reach on the train. A holiday that's been planned as flights plus transfer doesn't usually translate well to being an intercity train holiday and it's not helpful to pretend that it would.

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The poster I replied to was moaning about UK trains.

As someone who also travels internationally regularly by train, and is also just back from Italy, I don't find it that difficult. I usually use Interrail passes, which allow for much greater flexibility.

Every form of travel has its drawbacks. Airports are in the middle of nowhere, it's a pain to get to them especially when arranging onward travel, baggage is restricted unless you pay extra, check in and boarding is very time consuming, and most airports only have one or two flights a day to any given destination, sometimes at very inconvenient hours. And of course, there are the delays...

Obviously, if someone has booked a flight to somewhere like a Greek island, it's never going to be an easy option to get there overland- it's an emergency alternative.

Airelles · 17/04/2026 22:20

Scottishlass9 · 17/04/2026 18:21

I’m also going to Palermo… going first week of May

You can get there by train. The train goes across on a ferry!

UnctuousUnicorns · 17/04/2026 22:28

Tulipslove · 17/04/2026 20:38

People are being massacred across the Middle East, in Iran, in Lebanon, in Gaza, also in Sudan, and you’re all just talking about your holidays being affected. The dissonance is astounding.

Maybe not visit the "Holidays" forum if talk of holidays offends you so much? 🤔

Airyfairy77 · 17/04/2026 22:29

I work for a major British airline, so far no talk about ‘only 6 weeks of jet fuel’, it’s business as usual. Believe me the staff are the first to gossip about the ins and outs and that’s not anything we’ve been discussing

deplorabelle · 17/04/2026 22:53

crackofdoom · 17/04/2026 22:10

The poster I replied to was moaning about UK trains.

As someone who also travels internationally regularly by train, and is also just back from Italy, I don't find it that difficult. I usually use Interrail passes, which allow for much greater flexibility.

Every form of travel has its drawbacks. Airports are in the middle of nowhere, it's a pain to get to them especially when arranging onward travel, baggage is restricted unless you pay extra, check in and boarding is very time consuming, and most airports only have one or two flights a day to any given destination, sometimes at very inconvenient hours. And of course, there are the delays...

Obviously, if someone has booked a flight to somewhere like a Greek island, it's never going to be an easy option to get there overland- it's an emergency alternative.

While a lot of people overstate how bad UK trains are, the West Coast Main Line is pretty appalling (not as bad as the worst routes on Deutsche Bahn but it's up there). To make a viable connection to Italy or Spain you really need to be on the 9.01 Eurostar at the latest, which is hard to do if you don't live in South East England. And that's without worrying if the train is going to be late or cancelled which it very well could be.

Where did you go in Italy and how long did it take you to get there? I can see that interrail can add flexibility but surely there's a limit to how much flexibility is on offer if you need to use high speed to get there. Did you do the journey within one day?

southerngirl10 · 17/04/2026 22:59

begonefoulclutter · 17/04/2026 18:04

Not everyone voted him in though. Certainly not any of my 4 bunches of relatives dotted about the US. They have all loathed him from the word go. They have also had to part company with friends who are not of the same mindset!

Of course everyone didn't vote him in. Just most people. America has had loads of controversial presidents, yet they portray themselves as on the side of truth and liberty. I just wish the UK didn't follow everything they b**y do!

Gizzywizzywoo · 17/04/2026 23:08

I bloomin well hope not , we fly in 4 weeks and have waited 2 years for this holiday
I think alot of it is scaremongering to be honest

CautiousLurker2 · 17/04/2026 23:13

Gizzywizzywoo · 17/04/2026 23:08

I bloomin well hope not , we fly in 4 weeks and have waited 2 years for this holiday
I think alot of it is scaremongering to be honest

Am just hoping it’s scaremongering too - with luck airlines will condense existing bookings so altho we may have to go on an earlier/later flight, we will still fly and other’s who’ve yet to plan holidays will hold off booking until we all know where we stand.

Gizzywizzywoo · 17/04/2026 23:17

CautiousLurker2 · 17/04/2026 23:13

Am just hoping it’s scaremongering too - with luck airlines will condense existing bookings so altho we may have to go on an earlier/later flight, we will still fly and other’s who’ve yet to plan holidays will hold off booking until we all know where we stand.

Ive had an email off jet2 this morning saying the usual process of sending boarding passes 28 days before the flight has changed and its 14 days before now
Ive also seen on the hotel page ( where we will be staying) alot of people have already had their flight times/dates changed between now and july but so far ours looks to be what we booked

Pelsall116 · 17/04/2026 23:21

Well if things carry on as they are the World Cup, which the US are hosting, will be interesting in terms of attendance

changeme4this · 18/04/2026 00:16

I read this morning that Lufthansa has reduced its route capacity.

Muffinmam · 18/04/2026 00:20

It’s fine. There’s a ceasefire and Hormuz is open. Australia still might actually run out though. China has also been sending ships through this entire time.

The entire world needs to acknowledge that the US destabilised the entire world and murdered school children.

Muffinmam · 18/04/2026 00:21

Pelsall116 · 17/04/2026 23:21

Well if things carry on as they are the World Cup, which the US are hosting, will be interesting in terms of attendance

I wouldn’t trust security at that event. The US can’t even keep their NASA scientists safe.

Cocktailglass · 18/04/2026 01:00

Well in the UK the jets have been on a mission to fly around as much as possible it seems!

notimagain · 18/04/2026 07:55

changeme4this · 18/04/2026 00:16

I read this morning that Lufthansa has reduced its route capacity.

That might not be down to potential fuel shortages TBH, there's been a lot going on at Lufty recently that didn't have much to do with oil.

Very recent events at LH might be a case of Airline Management 101 :" never let a crisis go to waste".

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20260416-lufthansa-accelerates-cost-cuts-closing-subsidiary-as-fuel-prices-surge

whattheysay · 18/04/2026 08:00

countrygirl99 · 16/04/2026 21:38

We are going to Finland in June for a family event (family live there). It's not one of those places that "at your fingertips" from Paris and would need 3 trains and a ferry after you get to Paris and it would be 2 trains to get to Paris. By car it would be 35 hours of driving/ferry with no stops.

In the 80s we used to get the coach from UK to Finland as it was cheaper than flights. Ifrc the route was something like London - ferry to Belgium - through the Netherlands or Luxembourg - Germany - Denmark - ferry to Sweden - ferry to Helsinki I think it took about 3 days. Certainly not ideal but it’s doable!

Natsku · 18/04/2026 08:27

whattheysay · 18/04/2026 08:00

In the 80s we used to get the coach from UK to Finland as it was cheaper than flights. Ifrc the route was something like London - ferry to Belgium - through the Netherlands or Luxembourg - Germany - Denmark - ferry to Sweden - ferry to Helsinki I think it took about 3 days. Certainly not ideal but it’s doable!

We did it by car a few times when I was a kid but there were more ferry options then but it took days. Days sat in the boot of our volvo in the summer heat with no air conditioning squashed in with all the luggage - great start to a holiday Grin

countrygirl99 · 18/04/2026 08:49

whattheysay · 18/04/2026 08:00

In the 80s we used to get the coach from UK to Finland as it was cheaper than flights. Ifrc the route was something like London - ferry to Belgium - through the Netherlands or Luxembourg - Germany - Denmark - ferry to Sweden - ferry to Helsinki I think it took about 3 days. Certainly not ideal but it’s doable!

Well I COULD walk from London to Manchester. Possible but no one does it for a reason.

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