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University 2019/20 intake: vacations, vaccinations, va-va-voom restored and virtually into their third year

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NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 18/06/2021 10:34

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NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 10/09/2021 07:03

I'm extremely impressed with your DD's motivation @VanCleefArpels.

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VanCleefArpels · 10/09/2021 07:10

Thanks @NewModelArmyMayhem18 - it’s not so much motivation but pragmatism, there’s a fairly short application window and she wanted to get it started before term starts. There’s about 8 stages and she might not get past this one, an exercise of considering scenarios and choosing responses.

NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 10/09/2021 07:33

Indeed it is necessary to be pragmatic in one's final year. There's a lot to keep on top of.

Despite me suggesting that DS spend some of the summer considering his post-graduation options, I suspect he will have done very little.

Fingers crossed for your DD!

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blametheparents · 10/09/2021 07:55

@VanCleefArpels - Good luck to your DD.
When DS applied for summer internships he definitely found that he got better at the scenario based questions and the online interviews and got further each time he allied for a position.
As we kept on saying to him - it’s a numbers game and you only need one job!

DS reports that some lectures are in person, and most (maybe all?) seminars and tutorials.

VanCleefArpels · 10/09/2021 08:27

I remember when my older one was doing the applications for grad schemes thinking how bloody complicated it was and the extent to which the tests focussed on things which to my mind were not really relevant to the job (esp maths type skills for students who may not have done any number work since GCSE!!). I graduated in the very early 90’s and it was essentially a buyer’s market in my chosen profession so applications were literally a letter attaching a CV to a handful of firms, an in person interview and an offer. A different universe now!

VanCleefArpels · 10/09/2021 08:30

I will add, for reassurance, that the older one failed at v early stages for all grad schemes he applied for. However he found a great entry level job that was advertised in the traditional way and one benefit is that it was a permanent position: grad schemes are fixed term contracts.

bigTillyMint · 10/09/2021 16:06

@VanCleefArpels, good luck to your DD. My DD applied to two grad schemes which were also about 8 stages. It is gruelling! However she now has a job that she thinks she will enjoy, whereas most of the others on her MSc haven’t really looked into them yet. Or hadn’t before finishing in the summer.

And yes, yes, yes to practice and it being a numbers game. So time consuming and requires a big dose of resilience, as my DS has been finding!

Decorhate · 11/09/2021 06:49

@VanCleefArpels I graduated in the late 80s, arrived in London, spent days in a library looking up company addresses in a directory, send hand-written cvs & covering letters on spec. Once face to face interview per company & had 4 jobs to choose between.

I do feel so sorry for our kids having to jump through so many hoops. Mind you, we did get paid a pittance!

RampantIvy · 12/09/2021 16:55

Aaargh!

DD went to a drop in centre for her second Pfizer vaccine to find out that some idiot has recorded on her NHS record that she has had the AZ vaccine. The batch numbers are different as well. The centre wouldn't give DD the Pfizer vaccine, and neither she nor I know how to resolve this. 119 is useless because it just keeps redirecting me to a website.

simbobs · 12/09/2021 18:04

@RampantIvy presumably the mistake occurred at your DD's gp practice, so try them. What a pita, though!
DS has now actually had his 2nd jab, probably because of the threat of vaccine passports. Luckily the government didn't U turn sooner.

RampantIvy · 12/09/2021 18:15

No. she never reregistered at home. It will have been recorded at the vaccine centre where she had it done.

simbobs · 12/09/2021 19:23

Oh dear, they probably just attributed the previous person's vaccination to her. I can't think of any way of rectifying this unless it is cross referenced somewhere. Hopefully someone on Mumsnet who works in a vaccination centre can advise.

NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 13/09/2021 07:05

@RampantIvy it might be something you need to escalate 'upwards' (local CCG?) to get a satisfactory answer/solution?

I thought they were trialling mix and match vaccinations but possibly too soon to be letting loose with such an approach on the general public.

What a total PITA for your DD.

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RampantIvy · 13/09/2021 07:59

I'm going to ring the vaccination centre this morning.

VanCleefArpels · 13/09/2021 10:00

Call 119 as they have access to the central records. With upwards of 40 million jabs it would be a miracle if there were no admin glitches

RampantIvy · 13/09/2021 11:30

119 told me to tell DD to contact her GP. I can't contact the vaccination centre as the number online has a recorded announcement to say that I have dialled an incorrect number. I found an email address that sounded useful, but that is now obsolete. I am coming up against brick walls everywhere.

I have left it with DD to contact her GP.

icanbewhatiwant · 16/09/2021 08:14

I have a question for you all...as a lot of you have done a degree. Ds has a list of about 60 people to choose from to give him advice for his dissertation. He has to narrow it down to 6. He has no idea what he wants to write about. So he's not sure who to choose. But the question is, some are available spring term only, some autumn term only. Does it make a difference which term he does it? If he picks someone available autumn does that give him more time to write it? I guess that means they can't help finalise it if he's not finished after autumn term. Ds asked his tutor this question, he just replied with it us up to you. So that's not helpful. So I thought I'd ask on here.

NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 16/09/2021 08:40

In my day you had a final year submission deadline which was immovable (April/May time of final year) but when you started your dissertation was really up to you.

However, DS has already had to submit a brief overview of what he's planning for his dissertation, so I suspect there's more of a push to get students 'on the case' sooner rather than later nowadays?

Things may have changed a bit since then though! When I did my dissertation, I recall very little input/advice from my designated tutor. That wasn't my choice, it just wasn't the way things seemed to be done then!

I would generally say the sooner you start the better though, given that there will be other assignments (and possibly exams even) to do too. You don't want to be left with loads to complete in a very short time-frame! And cramming for exams to do too.

I would have thought it's better to have the input at the beginning (when one might be struggling more to fine tune the focus of the dissertation). You'd like to think that if someone went with an autumn-available academic, the young person would be well into writing it by Christmas (you tend to quickly gather momentum, particularly if you're really into the focus of study), and therefore would have received appropriate guidance about what needed to be further honed. So they'd have a clear idea by then of what was required to complete the piece of work to a very good standard?

Is there no-one suitable available for the autumn and spring terms though?

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icanbewhatiwant · 16/09/2021 08:58

@NewModelArmyMayhem18 thanks, most of them say either spring term or autumn term. Not many say both.

NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 16/09/2021 09:06

If one academic stands out as by far the best candidate in having research interests that well align with your DS's proposed dissertation focus, I'd opt for that one, regardless of whether they have sooner or later availability.

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NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 16/09/2021 09:09

And also does your DS know any of these academics? Best to also have one who you gel well with? It's fine and dandy opting for one who is a world leader in their field but who may not have the skills to bring out the best in their undergraduate students!

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icanbewhatiwant · 16/09/2021 09:57

@NewModelArmyMayhem18 the one he knows are working on things Ds isn't interested in. But Ds has no idea what he wants to do his dissertation on anyway. But he will obviously choose stuff he's interested in.

bigTillyMint · 16/09/2021 17:46

@icanbewhatiwant, he gets to choose 6 to give advice??? Wow! Both mine were just assigned diss tutors (well TBF DS got a choice between 2) and no one else was offered up to give advice. He’s a lucky boy! Could he choose half and half?

Re choice of diss, both had to choose the area (to enable match of diss tutor I think) and discuss before the summer. DS is just finalising his thoughts after looking at quite a lot of articles, etc.
But both mine did/are doing humanities / maybe different with another subject?

icanbewhatiwant · 16/09/2021 17:49

@bigTillyMint he chooses 6 into a list but only gets assigned one.

bigTillyMint · 16/09/2021 17:53

Ah OK!

Diss submission is usually in the Spring term? So maybe someone available then. Unless he’s good to crack on right away?