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Gifted and talented

Talk to other parents about parenting a gifted child on this forum.

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Thank you MN Towers for this topic

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RTKangaMummy · 15/05/2006 13:57

Thank you MN towers

I know certain other posters are being really immature and silly about this topic

We will get picked on for posting on here

And certain other posters will be not be able to cope with a new topic

Why should it harm them to have this topic???

We are told off if we post in Education

My DS is SEN and GT so has different needs in both camps

For example, he is in top 2% for English in the country with a very high IQ but has dyspraxia and hypermobilty in his joints which means this week his classmates are doing cycling proficiency at school but he is unable to ride a bike well enough to be able to join in. SO he is the only one in his class not able to join in.

SO you guys can PARP and tease me all you like but I don't care.

You can just go and post somewhere else and link to newspaper articles about pushy parents all you like I don't care

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Piffle · 15/05/2006 13:58

Quite RTKM
:)

collision · 15/05/2006 14:01

I have never picked on anyone who have said good things about their children but it does seem to me that this is a topic that could just be about boasting about how fantastic their kids are.

Am I wrong?

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RTKangaMummy · 15/05/2006 14:01

Piffle

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Gumdrop · 15/05/2006 14:02

Oh RTKM, I'm sure it will all calm down eventually. I'm glad this topic was started but TBH really didn't want to post anything until it was established exactly because I'm not, and don't want people to think I am, a pushy mum of a Tarquin or Algernon.

But hey, I have no style, and dress like a bag lady so am well off the bottom end of the bell curve for style. Isn't it just horses for courses? Even, cheesy as it is, live and let live?

rickman · 15/05/2006 14:03

No collision. :)

nailpolish · 15/05/2006 14:04

oh fgs

agree with collision

nailpolish · 15/05/2006 14:05

i cant think what this topic is for

is it so i can tell everyone my dd is 3 and can write her own name? does anyone care?

harpsichordcarrier · 15/05/2006 14:05

sorry RKTM
I was just joking and not having a dig at anyone
my dd's are too young to be G&T but it is just a matter of time before I join you on here of course

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RTKangaMummy · 15/05/2006 14:06

It isn't about boasting about our children

That is not the point

It is the different ways they think and what is done in schools for them

DS is sort of at both ends, he had an IEP until last year to help him as he was on SENCO register but is also at the other end of the spectrum

He has a extremly slow processing time and so the IEP was to help him

BUT he needs stretching at other end cos he is a 10 year old working at a 16 year old level

So it is NOT about boasting

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zippitippitoes · 15/05/2006 14:08

I expect that when some threads are started on it by people who have an interest then we will be able to read them and understand..I guess it relates to the Government's definition of Gifted and Talented but could as well be used by anyone who has an interest in nurturing special ability too. I'm sure it will be appreciated.

collision · 15/05/2006 14:09

But wouldnt that be under Education or Special Needs?

Gifted and Talented seems to be about special skills that children have and how a 12 month old can write his name etc etc

misdee · 15/05/2006 14:09

my dd2 is 3.5years old, and recent assessment has shown her intelligtence is that of a 5year old. She also has hypotonia and an immature pencil grip (which we are working on). I am imagining we will be facing the same differculties as your ds RTKM does when she starts school

zippitippitoes · 15/05/2006 14:11

\link{http://www.standards.dfes.gov.uk/giftedandtalented/\ dfes gifted and talented}

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RTKangaMummy · 15/05/2006 14:11

No because when we posted in education people had a go at us for talking in there too

And yes I do post in Special needs about DS but his GT doesn't really fit in there

So we have been in no-mans-land

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collision · 15/05/2006 14:16

oh I see.

sorry.

Dont think my ds's are G and T so i wont be here much!!

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RTKangaMummy · 15/05/2006 14:21

No its ok guys

I was just being a bit emotional cos a mum of a classmate phoned to ask why DS wasn't doing the cycling this week

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MrsDoolittle · 15/05/2006 14:22

I don't see the problem here. I've read this thread and seen cod's comment about elitism but I think many people are missing the point.
The assumption is that gifted and talented meams that automatically these children are successful. It isn't true.
Doesn't everyone know that there are many facts of a successful person - team spirit, staying power and the ability to communicate easily with people and often looks or should I say physicality.
To be intimidated by another persons child with incredible intelligence just suggests that someone is insecure about their own abilities to make themselves successful.
Intelligence, even though highly desirable is not the be all and end all.
I imagine that caring for a child with these abilities is extremely challenging

Marina · 15/05/2006 14:28

We had a reunion with some friends who have lived overseas for years and their two older children are on the G & T register. Most of the time this has been a nightmare for their parents, as their advanced learning abilities in some areas are not reflected in their other abilities (motor and social especially), which are below the norm for their age groups. Dh's friend described as like a millstone round their necks, the last thing I expected tbh.
As others have said, I think it's a great idea to have this subject in a different location to Education and SEN - well done to MNHQ for adding it to the list of new topics.

cod · 15/05/2006 14:31

if oyur kid isnt called algernon you cna still be htick

nailpolish · 15/05/2006 14:34

i am horrified another mother called you to ask why your ds isnt cycling

why on earth would anyone do that?

i hope you said mind your own bloody business

my dd1 goes to a playgroup and there is a large percentage of special needs boys and girls

i cant ever imagine asking their mother why they werent doing a certain activity

QE · 15/05/2006 14:41

I'm pleased too htere is a section for G&A. dd has been identified as such but I have rarely posted about it on MN for exactly the kinds of comments that have unfortunately been posted, rather unkindly I might add too.

Kanga - does your ds get the opportunity to attend Childrens University? Usually the school has to nominate kids for this (dd's did when she was at middle school) and has done some fantastic courses over the last few years which she would otherwise not have had access to.

For the record dd was registered disabled for 3 years and was a blue badge holder so she's another one with needs at both ends of the spectrum. Fortunately her disability has resolved itself and she now has only minimal extra needs in this area.

Good on yer, MNHQ!

SparklyGothKat · 15/05/2006 17:30

My DS is 8 and has Cerebral palsy, he is G&T, he has special lessons for maths because he works so well with numbers, he has a spelling age of an 11 year old. He has a reading age of a 12 year old. His teacher done a test today on all the class and he whizz through it, so she wants to do a harder one to see how he does. Its hard having a G&T child because I find some books aren't suitable for him (because of the teen content) and he is always needing information, to feed his brain. He loves to learn about history, so the discovery kids channel is great for him.

SparklyGothKat · 15/05/2006 17:33

BTW he still has an IEP for his handwriting, but he will always be on SA+ because of his CP

Piffle · 15/05/2006 18:01

As much as I loathe justifying myself here goes....
My dd (now 3.5) was diagnosed with developmental delay (due to her rare syndrome)so I went to special needs board and got support there, no one questioned was I making up her special needs, trying to get something she didn't need - what I needed was parents in a similar situation for support and info.

I need the exact same thing for my ds, who at 12 has long been on the G+T register, I did not put him there, I am a hands on parent but a pretty idle one, there were no after school classes, no hothousing. But I read him 1000000 books and let him lead me where he wanted to go.
School told me was exceptional, so I asked them how to best nurture it within school.
they suggested the G+T scheme and label.
I have asked for advice about ds and some certain aspects of schooling like bullying (for being too clever) and have had some really unhelpful and hurtful responses as well as support and constructive criticism.
This topic is needed, it's not meant to be about a 9 mth old walking and being advanced or a precocious toddler who spits at George Bush and shouts right wing fascist dictator.
It's about kids in full time education who have this special educational need

zippitippitoes · 15/05/2006 18:09

what is IEP

sounds like something ds should have had but never did, he can't write for more than a few minutes without pain and he basically doesn't ever write..luckily he has been able to use a computer He is just about to leave school now but I'm curious

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