There was something in the pear that night, the starfruit were bright, Fernando - 10 / 10 thread

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anyone got a dog?
DH and I are broody and he really really wants a dog. As do the boys. I veer wldly between ''a fluffy bundle of love to fuss over'' and ''oh god. Poo. No WAY''

I am lucky in that twice a week, as part of my job, I get to cdddle babies and play with toddlers. And then hand them back to their mothers just as they are getting hungry and fractious and tired

Yesterday:
Veg soup, apple, figs, blueberries, curry with tomatoes, myshrooms, cauli, beans, onions, peppers.

Hurrah for a perfect 10.

My mum has just got a new puppy - a labrador / retriever cross type thing. She's very sweet, all big paws and funny frowns and trips over herself and is SO friendly and bouncy. Go for it - it's a good way to keep fit too isn't it, you HAVE to go for nice long walks even if it's raining or cold. Is that a plus?

Am going to the woods this afternoon.

On the other hand, Molly, my friend bought a loevly pug cross shitsu (no idea how ot spell that!!). She love dit for a few weeks and is now finding it impossible.
She loves the walking bit, it is the rest that she finds hard.
Plus her husband is Very Against It.

Now I owuld give birth again quite happily (kind of).
It is the first 4-6 months that I can't do. I find it v v hard and is the main reason we don't have a third.
From 6 months I love it again.

I just keep lining up firends who hace babies and cuddle them instead.
And I love the 18 months - 3 years stage.

Perfume was a DKNY one and is really nice.

Right, I have ot go on a course this afternoon, have no idea where to go so must go and look at a map or something.

PS SB, it does sound like anxiety. take care.

Molly can I suggest looking after a puppy for a day? We did this and it put us all off getting a dog! It was worse than having a toddler - couldn't leave her alone,

Thanks for running tips veggers. Have decided to start at the weekend. Am going to do the one you've all recommended. DH runs (up at 5 this am to do one) and it really helps his mood and energy levels.

I loved giving birth to DD but DS's birth was horrific

Franny, what probiotics can you recommend? We have a great independant Health Shop here and a H&B, so between the two of them I hope they stock it.

Have you tried Caneston on ds bum btw? I'm sure you probably have, but thought I would mention it. Can the GP take a swab of your ds's bum to get a defo diagnosis on a fungal infection? Just a thought as you seem to have been passed from pillar to post, and even though it may not be anyone's fault, it's a pita.

I love dogs, but not enough to have one. DH had a lab when we first got together, she was lovely and all but she smelt and poo'd. She was old bless her, but I really can't be doing with dog shit in my garden, even if it's picked up asap. DH would get another dog tomorrow, but I have said no way jose.

My friend has just got a black lab pup and she said it's like having a 2nd child. Especially as it is her who looks after.

lolol @ Pink's frantic backtracking

I have no fear of labour (yet lol) as dd slithered out in a very straightforward manner. Painful, yes, because it was quite quick. 5 or 6 hours of established labour iirc. There are things I will do differently and I am considering a home birth this time. Considering. It would be quite logistically difficult - smallish house, paper thin walls between us and neighbours, nowhere for dd to go. Nothing insurmountable though if I want to do it.

SB I get that sometimes. It is scary and self perpetuating in a way because you are frightened and that makes the systems worse. I understand that breathing into a brown bag to counteract the hyperventilation can really help but it's not something I've tried myself tbh.

I'd love a dog, but I can't be arsed to look after one properly so have a cat instead.

Looks like today is going to be a rubbish food day. Crispy crunchy carbs only . Am at work and having to walk across the site a few times so will do so briskly in reparation for the toast mountain I shall eat.

Open day sound fabulous Franny. I'd come if I lived closer.

Lemur - I take a lactobacillus supplement daily and find it really helpful. I tend to buy whichever is cheapest but do find one with a good high dose. Not sure whether the one I take is any good for children but I'm sure they would be able to advise you in the shop. Something like this

Thanks for that TF. I need to go into town and pick up inhalers for dh, spatone for me (my iron is low as per the blood test result), anti-biots and probiots for Baby Lemur. Maybe I should paint a cross on the front door and get us a bell each to wear around our necks!

Enjoy the toast mountain

I need some spatone I think [yawn] I'm taking a multivit but it doesn't seem to be helping much on the iron front. I'm off for some blood tests tomorrow so I suppose I'll know for sure after then.

I'm prone to anaemia, particuarly whilst pg, and particularly particularly when I'm not mainlining green vegetables.

mmmm tooooaaaaaast

As well as having a dog for a day you can have a blind dog puppy for it's first few weeks. I think they provide the stuff, and maybe even the food.

My big bro did this and made a decision based on that experience.

Oh aren't people having a rough time at the moment it is awful and demoralising. Heartfelt sympathies to people wtih anaemia/tiredness issues. It is an arse!

Maybe the spring will turn things around.

Banana, x 2
blackberries,
raspberries,
spinach,
broccoli,
onion,
juice,

I am not broody, but can thoroughly enjoy looking at gorgeous Pink and the wee one with warm fuzzy memories.
Apart from when things go haywire, I don't have a favourite phase. My DC's are really enjoyable children to be around and I love most of it. They are so full of enthusiasm for the most simple things, it is inspiring (if a little tiring at times!).

I went in to get dd this morning and she was naked in her cot with her nappy and pjs strewn on the floor She's wonderful. She loves her baby brother so far too. I went in to read her a story last night and she took her milk off me and said 'bring ds too'!

I don't think I have a favourite stage. DD just amazes me every day and I am smitten with my wee man I didn't like the period when dd was getting onto 3 meals a day and snacks and I felt like I was lurching from one meal to the next and just clearing up in between before starting the next one!

DH wants a dog. I'm not a doggy person at all but think we might end up getting one, which I'm fully aware I will end up looking after!! We both would like a rescue greyhound.

I got a beautiful card from FK this morning Thank you.

Boco glad to hear a positive story on the hearing. They have said that it's possible that it'll be temporary but they should be able to tell in a fortnight when we go back.

Oh, list. Grapes, cucumber, oh dear. That's it so far, but I think I've done ok this week. Considering.

Need to get my exercise back on track though. When can I start running?

Hi, Pink.

I didn't remember that you are a runner as well. You had just found out that you were pregnant when I joined MN and found this thread (although I feel as if I have been here for years)!!
You could ask on this thread when it is a good time to start, although I imagine your HV would advise you also.

I have just done a nice 5k, it is probably a better distance for me at the moment, although in my heart I love the long runs. I also find cycling easier and as soon as the gritting stops I will resume that a bit more.

oh gawd pink, you won't have got anything joint from the veggers yet because i am in charge of it and it is sitting in my hall
terribly sorry

lemur the one my glowy lady (this is too embarrassing to keep calling her this, i must think of something else) recommends is hideously expensive
i mean about £25 - oh here it is
last time i got a cheaper one from viridian

you can get banana flavour powder for ds - it's ok even for babies i think

the swab is really good idea

rach i will have the babies till 6 months
i am ok at that bit

i really weirdly enjoyed the feeling of ds2 coming down the birth canal at the end
it was wildly satisfying in a terrible, intense way
i would be really disappointed to think i wouldn't feel that again

lemur this is what the glowy lady is trying to get me to buy for ds2 now

apparently it costs £100 LOL! good job i love her

Only £100? I'll have a couple then!!

Many thanks for the links Franny, I'll keep that site saved, but I managed to get into town before you saw my message.

I spent a mint in the health food shop this afternoon. £20 on probiotics, and I can happily report I am no longer a booja-booja virgin!! I got the flambed banana ones and they are really nice. Apart from spending a silly amount of money I think I'll go there again instead of H&B as they know what they are talking about and they had lots of interesting 'stuff' on their shelves.

I would defo ask for a swab then you'll have an answer and can plan a campaign of attack. Obviously this will be most beneficial to ds, but it make you feel like you are able to do something positive.

What colour aura does glowy lady have?!

I have to agree the sensation of pushing a baby out is like nothing else on earth. I suppose it helps that stage 2 with Baby Lemur was only 20 minutes and only a few contractions. Oh I moo'd like a good 'un! Such an empowering thing to do

oh MOOING
oh i did love mooing
mine was guttural and oooh it was marvellous

you know if i had a crap birth i would want to shoot us about now lemur so i will shut up

it was fab wasn't it

and flambeed banana the nicest IMO

Oh I loved giving birth, but again was exceedingly lucky with no complications and fairly quick with both.

Swore like a trooper!!! In the end with DD midwife shoved entonox in my hand because the house was full of people. So I swore through the fog..

Sorry to all that didn't have such a good time.

If it is any consolation, DS didn't and still doesn't sleep.

Am I the only one that needs their booja-booja cherry popping then?...

Back to the ironing..........

Went to the nature reserve this morning, drilled trees for sap. Ate maple syruped popcorn and saw a deer - in the city!

I'd love a dog again but:

1. they take up much more space than you expect
2. You will have to hoover a lot, even if it has short hair
3. It will need to go to the vets and that costs a lot
4. It might not be easy to train
5. It will need walking at least twice a day in the cold, rain, snow
6. It will poo and you have to pick it up. And it might poo inside or wee by accident
7. You can't just go away - it will need somewhere to stay if you go somewhere that a dog can't go
8. You can't go out all day without it
9. It might chew things - kitchen tables, back door, silk ties, CD players, shoes.
10. It might be scared of things - chairs, newspapers, bottles, thunder, postmen, people on bikes, sheep (as mine was - he was a Border Collie )
11. It might dig holes in the garden
12. It might steal food, people's shopping, chocolate, socks
13. it will love you forever, won't answer back, won't shout at you...

Have you read Marley and Me?

i don't like dogs

the sap drilling is so cool!

I like the sound of the sap drilling too. I adore maple syrup but it is really expensive at the moment.

I have read Marley and Me. I read it a few months after dh had to have his aged golden lab put down and I wouldn't let him read it as I knew he would want another dog Are you going to go and see the film SB?

Had crap birth with DD, and DS's started well, but ended in emergency section again, pah! Would still do it again tho.

F&V poor:
Strawberries
Raisins
Pineapple
Dates
onion

approx 3.

Wombling!

I had one emergency CS, one fine, one shoulder dystocia (WITH NO PAIN RELIEF) and another fine.
CS was horrendous.