There's a StarFruit waiting in the Pie.......10/10

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Original post by the lovely FrannyandZooey

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I am waiting to get to that point where I don't think about it. I think it is some way off.

What makes you think you have aspergers?

I think days like that come with parenthood. You can repress and dismiss, but these things bubble up to the surface every now and then - and that's what mn is for, everyone to tell you that they know what you mean, and sometimes worry about that too, but that actually, it's fine.

100x, are you okay?

No, not ME. DS1. He is the black hole of all my worries. I have no idea why. Poor boy. It must be a bore for him, but I think I mostly do lip-biting and don't let him know. I just croon about it quietly to myself. It's a bit silly actually.

Do you think you have reason to worry about him?

Oh no, sorry, I meant 'seismic shift' sort of ironically, really. Sort of Toot, and sort of not? I don't know actually.

[coughs]

[represses]

Can we hear about Boco's angst now?

Aspergers is such a long slope though, with so many handy places to perch.

100x, do ou want to do a mutual oldest child aspergers-related wobble?

Yes, v. good description TooT. Also in its mild version too like 'awkward' 'shy' 'unconventional' etc.

That is a good image, Toot!

Yes, talk to us again when you unplug. I know the repress thing. It's quite useful.

Boco - spill

Thanks so much FK. I thought you were the one who did Italian.

Am off to make no knead bread. I may go for a run tonight but am feeling a bit lazy.

nowhere nr ten today - possibly 10 slices of toast though.

Yes, and at what point does it become useful to raise concerns and follow the path?
How socially crippling would a diagnosis feel to an 11/12 year old?
Would it be worth doing purely to find likeminded souls?

i want to hear about all the angst

lots of our adult friends have (undiagnosed) aspergers (imo)
usually the more interesting ones

Thanks for being lovely everyone. Polly you nearly made me cry

Right I ought to go to sleep.

Night night

pink have a good sleep
everyone's advice was good
you have to state clearly what you need

about aspergers - what do i know? but it seems to me that it does not really cause so many problems in adulthood
it seems to cause problems in SCHOOL

Yes, school. Oh god yes. Poor dd1. She would be fine at university.

Night, Pink.

Yes, that seems to be the case for a lot of difficulties doesn't it, things are managable as an adult - lots of different kinds of jobs and ways of doing things but in school only one way of learning. Odd, and unhelpful.

I was having this conversation with someone else yesterday re Aspergers.

I think you have to weigh up the pros and cons. If being diagnosed and having a label would be helpful (for example, getting extra help in school, therapy [like play therapy to teach social skills]) then it may be worth it but, imho, if someone can manage relatively well with their condition i.e. mimic appropriate behaviour and minimise public quirkiness then the process of being tested and diagnosed might be more problematic.

I don't know TooT, I think if it's there it is mild tbh. He doesn't melt down at lack of routine, he's imaginative but he can also be weirdly literal, and somewhat fearless too. He doesn't read the social runes, but perhaps some people just don't??? Not like I do or dh does anyway.

Also I don't know what is okay and what isn't. He's utterly marvellous really ds1 - I'm not worried about labels but I do feel like I make it up half the time, but then I also trust my instincts and don't think I'm looking for trouble if that makes sense?

Yesterday I asked him to look in the freezer and see if there was any ice cream. So he did, he looked in the freezer and then went back to doing whatever he was doing. He does that sort of thing A LOT. He just didn't get the bit that I left unsaid 'and then tell me if there is or not.'

Yes SB you are right.

School just did that v. unconvincing line of 'I don't think he really wants any friends' and I said, v. Mary Poppins, 'I don't think any child choses not to have friends' and they did seat shifting. I don't know. He doesn't help his cause that's for sure.
DH says I am being bleak and it's not that bad, he has friends, not just a particular best friend and he feels that keenly. DH says he will want to marry the first girl he goes out with.

Sorry. I will staunch the tap now.

Oh 100x, he sounds quite a bit like dd1. He is great. But you know that.

But he's also only 11. I remember goign to sixth form when all the socially a bit odd boys suddenly came into their own - and at uni too, it's much harder at school to find people like you I think. Like one, not you, you know what I mean. Do you know, I was speaking to some socially unusual people last night, one of them turned out to be a psychiatrist, and I didn't really believe him at first, I raised an eyebrow in a 'yeah?' way, but he was, apparently a very successful one.

Yes Boco you are right, and so is DH I think. God, it's hard this parenting lark sometimes isn't it. I said to him the other day when we were talking about horrid school stuff, 'okay, I think in most social situations you need to have one person, they don't have to be the best in the world, just good enough until the best in the world come along' and he said 'why would I bother with that?'

Perhaps he's happy - and I'm a mess? I think that is an analysis he would agree with.