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Truth about vaccinations quotes

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alwayssaythanku · 20/01/2005 00:22

These are quoted from www.vaccinetruth.org

"Never doubt that a small group of committed people can change the world, indeed its the only thing that ever does." Margaret Mead

For us to bombard a newborn baby with a whole battery of vaccines as, in effect, their very first immunologic experience I think is reckless beyond measure. I would say it borders on the criminal.
Dr. Moscowitz

Cost for vaccinations: $10.00
Cost of trip to McDonalds after vaxing: $10.00
Cost of hospitalization after reacting to vax: $300,000.00*
Cost of avoiding vaxes and knowing your child never reacts: PRICELESS

  • Actual bill United States

What is the name of the test that can be given to determine if a child can safely receive a vaccine?

It's called a breath test. You hold a mirror in front of the child and if condensation appears, they are still alive and cannot "safely" receive a vaccine.

Steve

Vaccination is a medical procedure that causes permanent and irreversible modification of the immune system

"The only shot my son needs is a shot at the future."

......Lori Mcilwain

Modern medicine" may well be defined as "the experimental study of what
happens when poisonous chemicals are placed into malnourished human
bodies." A. Saul Contributing Editor,
Journal of Orthomolecular Medicine (www.orthomed.org)

You can always put the vaccines in... but you can never take them out.

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HappyMumof2 · 21/01/2005 21:42

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MistressMary · 21/01/2005 21:45

Yes, I'm not ignorant, but had a choice and so I made the most of mine. By doing my research for my own child for now and for the future.
And I believe for him that our choice which is reviewed and constantly thought about is the best outcome for us.

velcrobott · 21/01/2005 21:45

I don't think ANY of you have either a clue or a proof of what the effect of vaccination is on the immune system of a baby, won't it affect its overall health long term (whenan adult). Personnally I don't worry about the immediate adverse effect though I am sure that they can be devastating but injecting a 2 months old with products that will forever alter his immune system is playing russian roulette. There are studies already looking into this... for example I am ware of a scientist looking into the difference in asthma betweebn French and British kids... the order of the vaccination is not the same and there might (note the might) be a link.
For what its worth there was an outbreak of measles last year in a North London nursery. My friend's daughter had it - she is not vaccinated - she did not start the outbreak and she is the one which was least affected. She has had no vaccine at all.

And I too have been told several times on MN that people who do not vaccinate are selfish as they are risking the lives of those who cannot be vaccinate (usually those children already have a weak immune system).

HappyMumof2 · 21/01/2005 21:46

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lockets · 21/01/2005 21:46

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edam · 21/01/2005 21:51

well said, HappyMumof2

velcrobott · 21/01/2005 21:52

There have been epidemics in fully vaccinated populations.... there are also new strains of some diseases too.... to think a un-vaccinated child is the one that brings the disease to the population is misleading and ignorant.

Many people who I know have not immunised usually have a very different belief around the whole mighty medicine world....

HappyMumof2 · 21/01/2005 21:54

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velcrobott · 21/01/2005 22:03

Oh please you are NOT in a minority !!!
For those interested in the controversial link between SIDS and vaccination there is a woman who comes to the UK every year and gives a talk... her name is (I think) Vera Schreiber. Dh went to listen to her.... it is a very contentious issue anyway.

edam · 21/01/2005 22:05

Um, I was complimenting you on your reasoned approach and great summary of the problems with ASTU's post... but I have to confess I'm going down the single jabs route .
I'm not questioning the decision you made, btw, far from it, and I'm 99.8 per cent sure MMR is fine for 99.8 per cent of children.
It is important for all of us who can vaccinate our children to vaccinate them, whether that's MMR or single jabs, to protect the vulnerable few who can't for real, serious, medical reasons. That's why irresponsible scaremongering like the site ASTU quoted is so dangerous.

lockets · 21/01/2005 22:05

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HappyMumof2 · 21/01/2005 22:11

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janeybops · 21/01/2005 22:14

My dad is partily blind because of measles and a friend nearly lost her hearing because of it too.

highlander · 21/01/2005 22:33

FWIW, I didn't vaccinate my DS at 8 wks as I thought he was way too small. So we trotted along for his first set at 16wks instead.

That night he screamed for over an hour and eventually settled with some paracetamol. The HV said never give paracetamol before jabs. He was fine the next day but sleepless that night and screamed pretty much the whole day after. For 2 weeks afterwords, he would wake up crying from his naps (reduced from 60 to 30mins) and is still a bit sleepless at night. His nap times have pretty much returned to normal.

Now, all this could be down to anything - you know what 4mo old are like! Teething, growth spurts etc etc.

But it makes me sick that I just sauntered along to the health clinic and let them stick multiple antigens into my infant son without really thinking it through. I mean, why does a 4 month old baby need tetanus and Hepatitis B?

He's not having anymore until he's at least a year, and it will be singles.

lockets · 21/01/2005 22:37

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Socci · 21/01/2005 22:40

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Socci · 21/01/2005 22:42

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Socci · 21/01/2005 22:44

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Caligula · 21/01/2005 22:47

Socci, I agree with you. A little research wouldn't go amiss.

jabberwocky · 21/01/2005 22:56

Just to add, I posted a link to an article that came out in August reviewing the Danish study on MMR and autism. It is on the OMG Oh my god thread of Jimjams.

jampots · 21/01/2005 23:05

my friend's ds has just been given the MMR jab. However she found out in the docs waiting room that if there is epilepsy in the family they cannot give the jab, so she mentioned this to the doctor that her dad and sister both suffer from epilepsy. He said he couldnt administer the jab until he'd spoken to a paediatrician. What is the relevance of this?

edam · 21/01/2005 23:10

Jampots, I think (but I'm not sure) that's old advice and has now been changed. Can't remember the details, sorry, but think it was a precaution given that fever can be a side effect of vaccination, therefore increased risk of febrile convulsions?

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Portree · 22/01/2005 00:02

Having epilepsy or a first degree relative with epilepsy is not a contra-indication.

Portree · 22/01/2005 00:04

Should have added that that is the NHS advice.