Truth about vaccinations quotes

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These are quoted from www.vaccinetruth.org

"Never doubt that a small group of committed people can change the world, indeed its the only thing that ever does." Margaret Mead

For us to bombard a newborn baby with a whole battery of vaccines as, in effect, their very first immunologic experience I think is reckless beyond measure. I would say it borders on the criminal.
Dr. Moscowitz

Cost for vaccinations: $10.00
Cost of trip to McDonalds after vaxing: $10.00
Cost of hospitalization after reacting to vax: $300,000.00*
Cost of avoiding vaxes and knowing your child never reacts: PRICELESS

• Actual bill United States

What is the name of the test that can be given to determine if a child can safely receive a vaccine?

It's called a breath test. You hold a mirror in front of the child and if condensation appears, they are still alive and cannot "safely" receive a vaccine.

Steve

Vaccination is a medical procedure that causes permanent and irreversible modification of the immune system

"The only shot my son needs is a shot at the future."

......Lori Mcilwain

Modern medicine" may well be defined as "the experimental study of what
happens when poisonous chemicals are placed into malnourished human
bodies." A. Saul Contributing Editor,
Journal of Orthomolecular Medicine (www.orthomed.org)

You can always put the vaccines in... but you can never take them out.

The only two contries that officilay hold smallpox are the US and Russia....the old soviet union.

Ahhhhh, I seeee. So if it's on the internet it must be true? Silly me.

See elvis lives, it is on the net

elvislives

Lol! You NEARLY got me!

See I'm a bad wicked person that delights in misleading people.....she was right after all . Exit cackling wildly

I find it strange that people see this as a laughing matter.I did a lot of internet research when deciding about whether or not to give my daughter the MMR and I found a great deal of helpful information. Am I now supposed to reagard all of this information as lies? I also know a fair bit about the pharma-giants and the ways they have deliberately witheld information from the public about the damaging effects of their products ( eg seroxat for under 18s).I would prefer people not to reduce my concerns for my own children's health to the level of a joke.

I absolutely agree Donnie.

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Donnie, if this was a predominantly american site you might be labelled a "liberal", "commie", "darned democrat", and various and sundry other appendages. The big problem with this issue is that its scary to think about because the majority of people inject their kids with this stuff, trust their doctors, think the government is always doing what is in their interest and the world is a lovely place. I have to laugh about "evidence" because there is NO evidence that vaccinations work, but a plethora of cases of permanently damaged individuals. I am deeply disappointed at this mumsnet thread in that I assumed more people thought like me, that vaccinations were wholly corrupt, totally indefensible and a money making racket. If you want to take it further, its my belief (and remember to qualify your statements like this or they will be misinterpreted) that vaccinations are an institionalised experiment. Our kids are the guinea pigs. Governments have done this many times in the past before. Canada in the 50s, wwII and recently gulf war. Dont know about the present Bush fiasco, but no doubt the soldiers have been exposed to some sort of vaccination.

Drug companies are the dirtiest, greediest most corrupt organisations on the planet. They feed on human frailty and if you have doctors like I do, have carte blanche from the medical community to use us as their testing modules. I can go to my doctor and ask for all sorts over the phone and I will get it. Diazepam, arthritic drugs, strong pain killers etc.

In my community women got together and started comparing notes about what happened to their kids after "injections" and what happened to their kids when they didnt get injections. After discussing among ourselves we realised that the only people who are truly interested in our kids' health is us, the parents. Taking full responsibility for that, we decided to never relinquish that power again. At the end of the day its about money, power, control and the fear factor. If you are ignorant of the facts they have you by the short and curlies. Its right where they want us to be.

Further, 50/60 years ago, doctors said it was good to smoke! Thalidomide was touted as safe. Most recently the arthritis drug (name escapes me) is discovered to be very harmful.

There is an agenda of some on this site, just like I or anyone else has an agenda. Mine is to let as many people know the other side of the story about vaccinations. It aint pretty and it aint the stuff of cocktail parties. This thread unfortunately denegrated into a slanging match. That is classic political underhandednes. Shoot the messenger and the message. Further mumsnet obviously has certain "crones" who feel they are smarter, wiser, and generally in full right to shoot down arguments which they dont like. Dont know what everyone's agenda is, i only know mine. But in the main, people do vaccinate, and they are scared to death of doing it. They dont research it, they try not even to think about it. They trust their doctors. To trust drug companies as well is just downright foolish. You might as well trust the used car salesman.

I haven't read everything on this site - I'm not scientific (so don't understand most of it ) and I haven't got time. But I would like to defend doctors - my sister is a GP and reads every (and I really do mean every) article or piece of research that is published about vaccinations. She feels it is her duty to be as well informed as possible so that she can advise her patients properly. To infer that she is in cahoots with drug companies regarding vaccinations is downright insulting.

I think ramming your Anti thoughts down peoples necks is not going to help your cause.
It's no better than what the Doctors do with their pro-thoughts at the surgeries.
Neither is helpful to new parents.
I believe careful debate and reasoned thoughts are more useful and the way to get your point across.

If anyone in this thread or others asks you to provide evidence regarding vaccinations, perhaps you could project the question back and ask for the provision that vaccinations are safe. Clearly they are not. The majority still lies in the pro argument about injections and millions of dollars are spent each year by drug companies and their affilliates to shoot down the con argument. No one is going to get in the way of their multi billion dollar business. This is evident from the general consensus of this thread. The drug companies do a great job in convincing people what is wrong is actually right. Nuff said.

I would rather listen to JimJams to be honest.
She is eloquent and put her point across very well.

Since when is being opinionated "ramming". You have a brain use it. You dont have to believe what i tell you. This site is for opinion. Its not "MUMSNET, the SCIENTIFIC ANALYSIS OF VACCINATIONS. sheesh. Clearly i am not going to convince many people. New mums are on the wrong side of the "ramming" from the doctors. Not me. This thread is imbalanced and is indicative of just how far the general public has been mislead.

Nope!

I'm all for free speech, but you are just posting ill-researched scaremongering, and alienating those people who have chosen to vaccinate their children because they believe it to be the best thing that they can do. We all LOVE our children, and to sit and read stuff like this, intimating that we don't, or that we are blithely having our children vaccinated without researching it ourselves is insulting.

I have a blood disorder caused by wild Rubella; a good friend of mine is blind because his mother had Rubella when pregnant; at the age of 3 my mother was the only child from a total of 10 on a ward who survived diphtheria; 30 years ago by best friend DIED from encephalitis caused by measles. Yet these are viruses you would want all of our children exposed to.

In posting this thread as "the truth" you are as guilty of propaganda as the pharmaceutical companies you so detest - I have seen no hard evidence from you to back up any of the claims you make.

So if a doctor is pro vaccinations, they are "ramming" but if they are anti, they're well informed??

The beauty of reading on the internet is that you dont have to "hear" me. You are not listening to me. When you see my i.d. come up, just bypass it. Drug companies work for drug companies, not you or me. Vaccinations work for drug companies too. In 20 years time, we are going to be suing the medical profession en masse. There are already class actions in Canada and the states. The U.K. has a long history of treating its doctors like Gods. When you treat someone like a God, you in turn become a powerless child. This is about ideologies as much as the truth/lies.

Goodness me. And there was me thinking that my GP wanted to make my child better when in fact all they want to do is make money from the drug companies.

The hard evidence lies in the very lack of evidence. There is no evidence that vaccinations work. None, none at all. Though there is plenty of evidence that vaccinations cause permanent damage.

I wonder what would happen if every doctor in the U.K. suddenly decided that vaccinations were dangerous, unresearched, and in turn decided to no longer provide them. What would happen???
Undoubtedly government would legislate that vaccs are mandatory and drug companies may well shun those practices. They are extremely powerful.

A word about our philosophy

The idea of mumsnet is that by pooling knowledge and experience, parents make the job of parenting easier.
Please bear in mind that issues to do with raising children can be very sensitive and that everyone has the right to make their own choices when it comes to bringing up their kids.
This is a discussion forum and we ask you to respect other people's right to their opinions, even if you disagree with them.

Can I please direct people's attention to the mumsnet philosophy. This thread is getting a bit heated again today- can I remind people that we're here to support each other.

Annie, if you want to be scared investigate what exactly goes into an MMR/HIB vaccination. List the ingredients and tell me where they come from. I dont need to scare you. You will scare yoursel. I wouldnt put that crap in my dog, much less my child.

As far as I can see there's only one person on this thread this morning who isn't respecting other people's opinions, Pixifish.