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214 replies

Iworryalot · 03/05/2008 10:53

Hi ,anyone els have anything like this going on ???
Soft shreddy BM
undigested food
Wind
bloating

Waiting to have a sycosipy not sure if spelt correct ,
went to see gastro specialist and he said IBS he asked me at the time if i got oil droplets at all , i said no ,but now taking a closer look[shook]i can see clear oil lying on the water
Have called to tell him this, and waiting for reply ti see if i need more tests ,in the mean time i m worrying myself silly and wondered if anyone els had or knows similar ....plaese help if can .....thanks

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Winetimeisfinetime · 18/05/2008 13:17

Hi cosit and iwal - will you link us to your thread if you do one cosit as would like the opportunity to give you support.
Maybe we should start a health anxiety thread as I'm sure from looking at other threads there are quite a few people on here who have similar problems.

I have a busy day tomorrow as have both a gp appt in the morning and a consultant appt in the evening - I will discuss the angiogram with my gp and then ask the consultant my questions and make a decision I think.I will post any outcomes on my angiogram thread.

We had 2 gerbils iwal and they were very entertaining - we had a big glass vivarium that we filled with peat and they created tunnels. They were very easy to care for as they only needed cleaning out every few weeks. Hope they bring you and the dc lots of pleasure.

I think the bloating and wind you describe iwal are typical IBS symptoms - I really think it would be worth trying the acidophilus you know. Definitely chase up your appt on Monday - once you've seen the gastro you will hopefully feel more settled about all this.
Hope you both have a good day - today I will mostly be painting the front door so fun times here !!!

cositjustisok · 18/05/2008 14:14

Good idea winetime about the thread for us to catch up on. Hope you get loads of answers to all your questions tomorrow and will be thinking of you..let us know how you get on. Must start my own thread too!!!

Hope you doing ok IWAL..

good day up here anyway for painting..hope it is where you are winetime.

Off out shopping now with DD1 for "trendy gear"..

SPeak later
x

Iworryalot · 18/05/2008 18:03

Hi to you both , back in from day at DD school fate which was great fur and very good distraction for me .....

IF you do do another thread please do let me know ,as think would be good for us all ,but dont want to loose contact with you both ....... that would make me very
I really feel i have found friendships with you both and want that to cary on , if you do ....

Hope your appt goes well on Monday winetime please let us know how you get on , my FIL funny enough has had another angiogram done on Friday .
will put your mind at rest to discuss it all with your GP and consultant im sure .

Hope your shopping went well with your son cosit to .

gerbals seem to be ok kids love them ,,,,,

take care
love IWAL xxxx

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cositjustisok · 18/05/2008 18:21

Hi IWAL..glad you had some relaxing time this afternoon at the fete..nice to get out and stop your mind thinking isn't it? When do you go back to the consultant, something tells me it is this week is that right??

We had a great day shopping ..my dd goes to a lil youth club on a Sunday night and it is the highlight of her week....she wanted some "trendy gear"....so managed to get her sorted and she is so so happy..bless she is a good girl and easily pleased..a fashion scarf and a we top from Primark....no bother

Hope you both have a nice evening, hubby is cooking me a nice curry and I am sitting here wondering what time is respectable to have a glass of wine

Iworryalot · 18/05/2008 19:47

Sorry cosit i said in last thread DS got it wrong DD so sorry about that

I remember when i was a child getting new clothes and was such fun ,and that feeling of happiness of having trendy new clothes ...
My DD a bit to young at moment , although she has her funny ways ,lives in trousers never skirts well only when her pals come round then she changes her clothes every half hour ...LOL
then when there gone reverts back to trousers or jarmies ..

Hope to get appt through tomorrow in the post ....
if nothing has come by tuesday will phone and see whats going on..

getting a list together of all i want to ask for peace of mind , well thats what im paying for, so must make the most of the gastro docs time .

anyway trying now to think to deeply bout that ....

Enjoy your curry hubbys made you .
and your glass of wine [smile ]
xx

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Iworryalot · 18/05/2008 19:59

I Meant trying NOT to think to deeply about that..

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cositjustisok · 18/05/2008 20:16

Hi IWAL..OMG...no fret about getting Ds mixed up with DD...didn't even notice till you said

Anything we can help you with for your appointment please feel free to ask, just want to feel useful cos I know how alone it can make you feel like when an appointment is looming and for me I never wanna bother my DH (again!!!)...like do you want to ask him why you see an oily film could this just be a normal thing or is it a diet related thing or should it be looked at in more detail??...happy to offer advice or anything jsut let me know...winetime i am sure will be feeling the same {smile}...we know what we are like so here to support.

I met the mum from the school and she takes a tablet for her IBS bought from Holland & Barret called Prebiotic 7, she swears by it and says it has made a huge difference to her life, and would rather be without her cuppa tea in the morning thatn forget about taking that!!!...she says whenshe gets a flare up she takes 2 a day to calm things down but other than that jsut take 1 a day. She did say it took 3 -4 weeks to sort out the problem...but that was nothing after suffering for 3 years!!..hope this helps IWAL...thinking of you x

Iworryalot · 18/05/2008 20:26

Thanks cosit {hug]
Does help alot x

will ask those questions so thankyou for remind ,and mention probotic tablets to

Just wish it was tomorrow .(hate waiting )

going to have early night tonight so will say good night all .

catch up tomorrow

IWAL xx

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cositjustisok · 18/05/2008 20:36

Good night IWAL...speakie more tomorrow {{{hugs}}} x

Iworryalot · 19/05/2008 13:17

Hi ,
Just called my gastro receptionist as nothing in post ,have appt this Friday now ,so that was worth doing .

Been googling again ,so feeling down found more scary results , i know i shouldnt ......

Im my own worst enemy ,
i guess im searching for good answers to how i feel and put in my symptoms and dont get any ...

sorry bad IWAL ..

How things with you both i know winetime you have your 2 appointments today ,hope all goes well ,thinking about you hug

Thankyou cosit for advice and support to xx
catch up later xx

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Winetimeisfinetime · 19/05/2008 15:21

Hi ladies - Iwal, glad to hear you have your appt now. I would really try not to Google symptoms as it just causes stress. If I need to look something up, say as research for a question I may need to ask for an appt, I try and get my dh to do it for me - in fact he now insists on doing it for me and bans me from Googling if he can as he knows how worried I get when I do it myself . Hopefully you should get some answers this week that will put your mind at rest.

I saw my gp this morning who said he thinks if it was him in my situation, he wouldn't have an angiogram as I am receiving drug treatment anyway for minor coronary heart disease and he thinks the scan results don;t indicate a major problem. He is very sensible and what he said is what I had been thinking but my gasteroenterologist has made me feel I am being reckless if I don't have an angiogram and my cardiologist just confuses me as he doesn't give straight answers. I will have to try and pin him down tonight at my appt and see if I can get the sort of straight answers that my gp gave me.
I hope that I can then feel able to make a decision and end this quandry I am in.{ sorry iwal I've hijacked your thread a bit by rambling on }
I hope all goes well with your appt on Weds cosit. Please let us know if you want to talk it over.

Love winetime

Iworryalot · 20/05/2008 18:40

Hi winetime ,sounds as though your GP appt went very well ,how did your appt go last night ? was it with your gastroenilogist ar cardiologist?

Cosit how you doing ?
and what is your appointment for on wednesday ?

Hope your all ok.

Im ok counting the days till my appt seeing my councilor tomorrow i usually feel a bit better once iv seen him were trying to work through my anx .

any advice on these gerbils ?
fining it hard to catch them let alone tayme them ......

WLAL x

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Winetimeisfinetime · 20/05/2008 19:06

Hi Iwal and cosit
What sort of councelling are you having iwal ? Sounds good if it makes you feel better afterwards.
Re the gerbils I have to say that we initially tried to handle our 2 regularly but they were very hard to catch so in the end we just left them tunneling in their tank. I'm sure that if you persist with them { and can catch them } they will get used to being handled. Having said that we now have 2 guinea pigs - one of whom we rehomed as his owner had to go into hospital long term and although we've had him for 4 years and is handled daily, he is very nervous and not keen on being picked up, whereas our other guinea pig is very laid back so it does all seem depend on their particular personality as well as how you handle them. It must be frustrating for the dc if they can't interact with them.
My appt last night was very frustrating as we couldn't pin the cardiologist down to straight answers so it was a bit of a waste of time - now feeling back in the quandry again.I really don;t know what to do now.

Good luck with your appt tomorrow cosit - hope it goes well and is productive.

Love winetimexx

Iworryalot · 20/05/2008 21:32

I have councelling for Health Anxiety ,was reccomended by my doctor , as you know i am very worried about health issues and have been for a while now , the doctor offered me some tablets to help calm me but i really dont want to go down that route just yet ...
So i opted to try the councilling first ,and have been for the last 3 months ,at the moment we are trying to work through all my fears assosiated with illness and worries i have , and how i handle them at the moment , (not to well)in time he wants me to be able to face things head on and work through them ,that sounds scary to me .....
He talks to about undrlyning issues that are not to do with health but could still contribute to why i feel the way i do .

i lookforward to my sessions now as i really want to understand and get help in how im feeling about everything .
NUts arnt i ......... and i cant spell very well either ..LOL

Sorry your appt didnt give you the answers you were looking for ,its so frustrating dealing with these people somtimes ,can you go back to your GP and ask him if he can have a word with your cardiologist to get some answers ?
Just a thought .

Hope your alright cosit , and your appt goes well tomorrow ,let us know how you get on .

{{{{hugs to you both ]]]]]
IWAL xxxx

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Winetimeisfinetime · 20/05/2008 21:55

You're not nuts at all IWAL - in fact I think that the anxiety is probably because you are intelligent and sensitive. Well that's what I tell myself about my anxieties anyway. I think people like us have a tendancy to over think and over analyse and catastrophise things - always think the worst. I do feel that there is alot of truth in the saying 'Ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise' - what you don't know, you can't worry about.

Sounds like you have an excellent councellor - I had a few sessions of CBT a few years ago and had to do some practical exercises that faced my fears head on. It was difficult but you felt so empowered when you'd done it and it definitely helped. Like you,I've never gone the anti-depressents route as I am not depressed just anxious. The beta blockers I am on for my heart are supposed to help with anxiety too so it will be interesting to see of they make a difference.

Thanks for the suggestion re the cardiologist - you must be a mind reader as I've been thinking it over today and had come up with exactly the same plan myself.

Hope cosit is ok - haven't seen her around today.
Love wineitmexx

cositjustisok · 21/05/2008 06:49

Hi Winetime and IWAL...sorry not been about over the last few days....just wanted to say sorry you did not get straightforward answers winetime....do like IWAL's sugestion and maybe a way that you will get better information on what you should do. ((hugs))I know it is a stressful time for you as you cannot get the decision made and move forward and all the time your mind is over thinking the situation, this is so upsetting to us people who freak over health stuff.

IWAL hope all goes well today with the counsellor..I was not really offered anything like that but have heard it can work really well, for our type of worries...at least it lets you have a bit of release too to someone who understands. Cause I feel we tend to not talk in real life to many people about our health anxieties..well me any way..are you the same???..it is almost as if we are embarrassed about it..but it is an illness like any other...so I keep trying to tell myself..but generally I am better these days. She may be able to help you for your appoinmetn on Friday with questions etc.

Will be back later today to let you know how i get on with my appointment......amazingly calm for some strange reason.

Hope you are both well
Take care
Cosit
x

Winetimeisfinetime · 21/05/2008 10:01

Good luck with the appt cosit. I am thinking of you. I will keep checking in to see how you got on.

Hope you are having a good day IWAL - and a good councelling session.

Like you I don't really talk about my health anxieties in rl - I have done so a bit more in recent times to my bf and she is very understanding and obviously my dh knows about it, but I still find it difficult as it does seem embarrassing. Especially when you don't know anyone in rl that feels similarly. I have always been seen by my family and friends as sensible, responsible and capable - I am the one that has to sort out everyone else's problems and I think that makes it harder to admit weakness yourself and say you have a problem - do you know what I mean ? Mumsnet has helped me feel more comfortable about admitting my anxieties as there seems to be lots of women here with similar problems so I don't feel like such a freak.

cositjustisok · 21/05/2008 13:46

Hi ladies, home now from the hospital and have had a range of blood tests done and something called a syncathen tests (for diagnosing Addisons...think that is what test was called anyway). No results for a few weeks at least because by the time they go back to the consultant and he gets in touch with me...could be quite a few weeks yet!!.. When they took the canula out of my arm the needle was bent..even though I had kept my arm straight as a board for quite a few hours.....I kept telling the nurse my arm felt very uncomfortable. Whilst she was very nice I don't think she believed me...I thought it was in really far and it was really sore the whole time but no one checked it. So now my poor arm is so black looks awful but at least it is not sore anymore .

Hope the counselling session went well IWAL.
Have you thought what you are going to do about your angiogram winetime?.

Hope you are both well and will catch up later. (((hugs)))x

Iworryalot · 21/05/2008 16:35

HI to you both ,

Poor you cosit [hug] sounds very painfull,hope your recovering now from it ,and i bet your arm will be sore later or tomorrow , some nurses can be sooo rough when they take blood ,i had it once and the next day i was so brused .but another time with someone els no brusing at all .

How long do you have to wait for results ? could they tell you anything today that was helpfull ?

concolling went well today ,this week iv got to try a few things that should help me coping with my health anx .

  1. to not go on inernet and google any health symptoms.
(as this will only help for the short term , and in the long term keeps the aniety going )

2.do not seek reasurance from doctors .
(as again this gives short fix ,not long )
unless i am obviously really ill then i can go ..

  1. keep a diary day to day and put in all my feelings and anxietys down on paper and give rating .EG. 0-10
o being calm 10 being very worrried /anxious
  1. limit my use on mums net to only 1 hour a day
and to not talk to much about my health anx , (now that will be very harn specially with my appt coming up ) although he did say its fine to chat about my currant health worries .

I think all these ideas are to try to ween me away from things that will only feed and fule my anxiety ,and will only give short reasurances and this does not help in the long run .

Kind of like a vicious circle ,anxiety leeds to worry,worryleeds to fear and so on .........

at least thats what i think it is ?
anyway i will try .....
i was thinking today ,10 years ago we had no goggle so nowhere to look things up and worry ourselves silly .

anyway im waffling away now
hope you both are ok
catch up soon

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Winetimeisfinetime · 21/05/2008 19:26

Hi

It sounds like that canula was very painful cosit - sorry to hear you had to go through that, As iwal says it can so depend on the skill of the person doing it can't it. You seem to be coping really well with this situation and the worry it must be causing you - hope you are giving yourself a pat on the back over it as I find it is so easy to not appreciate how far you have come with dealing with anxiety. Perhaps a little treat is in order for being a brave girl today

Those seem like good strategies your councellor has suggested IWAL - I could do with trying those too as I'm guilty of doing all of them.

Iworryalot · 22/05/2008 07:29

Morning ladies ,
How are you feeling today cosit ?link{http://hughug]
Hope\your alright .[[[another hug}]

How you winetime ?
Councoling was good i like the idea ofa diary as this is a good restraction from googling.........so whenever i get the urge to i must start writing not typing .....

Got my appt tomorrow getting anx already , if you think of anything i should ask please let me know ,going to make a list ....

catch you both later ,hope you have a good day both of you .

love IWALxxxx

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cositjustisok · 22/05/2008 07:35

Hi Ladies

IWAL..those points that your counsellor made are very valid ones!!!!..and like winetime I am guilty of them all to some extent ...think if you at least stop googling then that is a big big step and may actually help with all the other ones to make them more easily achievable. I honestly google very little these days and know very little about the tests I am having because I know until something is confirmed I am not going to ruin the interveening weeks with futile googling and worrying. This is not that hard to do really and the benefits far outweigh the knowledge (scared shitless always) received.

Thankyou winetime..i am managing my health anxieties quite well at the moment because I got so tired of the sheer exhausting affect worrying was having on me...know you both understand this but i am also always waiting for it to come back worse than ever I am just thankful at hte minute i am coping with my anxieties and will worry about future worries at another time {grin].

IWAL wish I could wave a wand and stop you worrying about your bowel but that really comes from within you and of course we can help but ultimately you have to do the hard work.....starting with what your counsellor says..no more googling. This I know has been one of the factors that was fuelling my concerns and now as i dont do much of it..my anxieties are less....give it a try...I do lnow how hard it isi though. (((hugs)))

HOpe you are both well ....thining of you tomorrow IWAL..what time are you at he consultant at??
Winetime wehn have you got your next appointment??

cositjustisok · 22/05/2008 07:49

Morning IWAL...know you will be anxious for tomorrow (((hugs)))..will have a think about questions... busy with school run now but will pop back later.

Could you post questions you already have and then we will add to what you have maybe?..jsut a thought..

Breakfast time and kids .....noisy and well ......jsut being kids it is difficult to concentrate at the minute..back soon

COsit x

Iworryalot · 22/05/2008 08:13

Thanks cosit ,
just going to take my kids to school and will have a think of questions on my way ,kids still in jimmys so must dash ...
back in a while

iwal x

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Iworryalot · 22/05/2008 09:32

Right back now .

Question time ..

1, to the doc , you mentioned on our last consultation about oil droplets , i thought nothing of it at the time ,but on further investigations i do see a clear oil film on th water after a BM most days .

Is this part of IBS ?
should it be investigated further ?

do i need to to have a fecal fat test ?
to see if im not absorbing fat properly ?

i get very bloated and have gas is this part of ibs to.

would it help if i took probotic pills

is there something wrong with my digestive enzymes ?

OR AM I JUST TOTALLY NUTS AND PERFECTLY OK?

thanks ladies xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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