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Problem/Dependent Drinkers and Alcoholics (recovering or active) Support IV

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lackaDAISYcal · 07/04/2008 00:07

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BottlebinBerrie · 30/04/2008 07:20

I miss the relief from my bad back the alcohol gave me.
Sleeping really badly again and feeling rubbish in the morning too.
Ah well my liver at least is smiling.

dandycandyjellybean · 30/04/2008 09:34

Gerbrajess, just wanted to say again, you didn't come across as preachy and certainly haven't overegged it. I look on here everyday and am really impressed with how well you're (all) doing and most of the time it makes me more determined to get myself in order. It was literally just a bad combo of my own head being really, really crap at the mo (hormones and depression - bleuch!), felt really unsettled when there was a bit of tension few days ago on here (walk on eggshells so much in rl felt awful to have tension) and just at that moment I could feel paperchains pain. Hope yswim. Am really really really really really pleased, proud, impressed with how well you are doing, it is a real inspiration to me. Better day today. best foot forward, onwards and upwards and other such cliches....

have a good day all, keep it up.

gerbrajess · 30/04/2008 10:14

Thanks Hairy - I didn't reply last night as I'd gone to bed (whaa? - bed at 11?!). It was nothing you said - I just suddenly paniked that I'd been go on and on and on...

Sorry you've been feeling so bad of late - but glad you've come back!

I made it Sillytilly and apart from the very bad night's sleep, it's been okay (I can sympathise with you BB).

Hope everyone else is doing okay today? It sounds like there's a lot on everyone's collective plates at the moment so here's to the rest of this week treating us all kindly...

Gerbra xx

BottlebinBerrie · 30/04/2008 10:34

Yep, here's to that Gerbra!

gerbrajess · 30/04/2008 10:38

p.s. Kokeshi - come back and reassure us you haven't been buried under a mountain of flat-pack furniture!

kokeshi · 30/04/2008 13:02

Hi folks, thanks for all your lovely messages before, I'm still here and reading but taking a wee break. Just protecting myself from patronising assumptions being made about me.

You're all doing fantastically well and thanks to all for their candour and empathy. It's nice to have such a level of trust and honesty and I wouldn't like to see it ruined, by me or anyone else. Anyone who'd like my facebook details for off-board contact, I'm happy to add ya.

Onwards and upwards!

BottlebinBerrie · 30/04/2008 13:26

Hurray!

kokeshi · 30/04/2008 13:31

Mwah , dearest Dinny can pass on my details if you go through her - there are a few of us on there already and we can get a more private thread up and running for anything that's a bit too personal to be posted on the WWW.

Take it easy guys. See you soon. x

gracepaley · 30/04/2008 13:56

I'm sorry, Kokeshi, if that's how you felt. That's exactly how I felt too. So it seems we're even. Not that that is good, but just how it is. As it seems you are the doyenne of this board, and that no one is going to talk to me until you give the all clear it would be great if we could put it behind us. GRACE.

Stripteasle · 30/04/2008 14:10

I just don't get it, these unhelpful comments...but anyway- I think this is what is putting people off- this type of thing? Please can we just go back to being a support thread?

Hi everyone, glad you're all posting.

Hairy biker- I struggled for ages. I knew I had a drink problem for years- you're not alone, and take heart that I and others, and lots of people I talk to, have come from similar places too. I know people who have had truly awful chronic alcohol problems, but are living well today- hey there's still plenty of hope for you! And anyone for that matter.
Even if you're struggling, the thing is you're communicating about it, and thats a really good thing.

Hope everyone is well today, will check in later on tonight

x

BottlebinBerrie · 30/04/2008 14:11

Sigh...

gerbrajess · 30/04/2008 14:15

I second that Stripteasle...

gracepaley · 30/04/2008 15:03

I am SO not trying to be unhelpful, I am trying to clear the air.

gracepaley · 30/04/2008 15:16

Like one of you COULD say for instance a)"it's ok Grace we understand that people have misunderstandings and this is supposed to be a place without judgment and yes we are robust enough to accept differences of opinion, so keep posting. ".
Or you could say b)
"Grace we are really pissed off with you because we really love Kokeshi and we don't know you and so don't love you. But if you behave well we will of course support you and welcome you into the fold"
Or you COULD say c)
"fuck off biyatch, we don't want your ass in these parts"
but that would not be very supportive and given that it takes two to tango, not very fair.
or you could say
d)Kokeshi is very sorry she upset you just as you are sorry you upset her. Now can we please move on?

You see, it's not that hard, you can even just put down the one you want to say.

gerbrajess · 30/04/2008 15:40

Grace - I don't think anyone would mind you continuing to post - but for the fact that you keep dragging back up a difference of - which has no practical benefits and is making people uncomfortable...

Can you just not leave it and not keep referring to it ('now we're even...') is pretty childish, even in my book!

We all have different opinions in how best to tackle our problems, but until now, we've all managed to happily muddle along together...

Gerbra

gerbrajess · 30/04/2008 15:41

that should read 'difference of opinion'

paperchain · 30/04/2008 15:42

I need some help (understatement)

I so desperately wanta drink but I have to go and collect my chidlren. How am I going to ge throught hte next few hours. How do you all do it?

gerbrajess · 30/04/2008 15:44

Oh Paperchain - I don't know if anyone else is on here at the mo - I wish the T-totallers were...

From what they've advised me to do, the best advice I can offer is to cut the hours down into chunks - get through 15 mins, then the next and so on...

Do you think knowing you have to pick them up will help you to abstain?

Gerbra

gerbrajess · 30/04/2008 15:45

post back - don't disappear...
x

BrassicMonkey · 30/04/2008 15:58

Ok, breaking the rules here (shh - don't tell my therapist

GP, firstly welcome to the thread. I think I know who you are from last year. Posting style rings a bell.

None of the examples apply to me really. I read the dialogue between you and Kokeshi, and at first thought it was a bit of banter - tense, but still banter.

I did think it was unkind of you to suggest that Kokeshi was sanctimonious or intrusive. Maybe you thought that, but could you not see that her intentions were good? I know you explained this by saying that you were just objecting..., but I personally felt it went beyond just objecting.

I did read the thread that this all stemmed from and I think Kokeshi got a hard time there too, although not from you. Second thoughts, I'm going to leave that thread in the past where it belongs.

I didn't respond to you when you first came to the thread, but then again I was soooo absorbed with the coming week that I wasn't really responding to anyone. Since then, I've felt uncomfortable, and after having the shittiest of weeks last week, didn't want to engage in any confrontation on here.

BTW, MN probably is constructive for some, but it was part of my drinking habit - sit at my desk, vodka, diet coke and fags, and waste the whole day. It's been good advice actually, as just sitting here now, I've got a glass of water perched under my lips (just like I used to with a vodka) and my anxiety levels are soaring.

I just want the thread to go back to how it used to be, when if we disagreed we'd say so without getting personal. And, yeah it's cheesy and a a bit arse-lickey, but Kokeshi has been like a big sister to me over the past year and it hurt to think that she might feel unwelcome in the future.

I hope I haven't said anything to fan the flames. I just want the thread to get back to the supporting place that it has always been.

So, actually I'm a B.

BrassicMonkey · 30/04/2008 16:02

Sorry PC, cross posted with you.

I'm working in 15 minute chunks too

You've got to collect your children, so alcohol is out of the question. Does it help to think like that? It used to help me!

I'm out of time though PC, and I don't want to break anymore rules. I'll be thinking of you though, and willing those 15 minutes by.

paperchain · 30/04/2008 16:07

ok tyring the 15 mins thing thansk

BM you are doion so well.

PCxx

gerbrajess · 30/04/2008 16:18

Good on you Paperchain - you'll be okay - just keep thinking in short bursts...

BM good to hear from you - good luck with the rest of the week...

Gerbra x

paperchain · 30/04/2008 16:38

its not workign

gracepaley · 30/04/2008 16:40

Ok. I am waving in solidarity at you all, PC - pC you can do it you know - Gerbra - am also trying to make it to Saturday this week - and Brassic especially going through your gruelling regime; hope it is going ok.

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