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Hot Cross Plums (and something about Gourd of the Dance) - 10 / 10 thread - all welcome

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FrannyandZooey · 22/03/2008 07:59

For anyone who wants a boost to their general health. The suggested goals are:

EAT 10 PORTIONS OF FRUIT AND VEGETABLES EVERY DAY - if you don't usually eat much fruit and veg I would build up gradually or you could upset your digestion.

DO (AT LEAST) 10 MINUTES OF EXERCISE EVERY DAY - can be yoga, stretching or something more energetic. The plan is that the idea of doing 10 minutes is not too daunting, and having started you may well find you want to do more.

There are no restrictions on what you eat so long as you get your 10 fruit and veg as well. The focus is not on weight loss but on improving our energy levels and hopefully our general mood and well-being. Sign up below and post here to tell us how you're getting on and how you are feeling.

Basic guidance on what constitutes a portion of fruit and veg here and you can download more detailed information by following the link at the very bottom of the page

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BBBee · 24/03/2008 20:16

greeny

do you have an action plan for thursday?

I hope it goes well.

Greensleeves · 24/03/2008 20:18

Franny, I dont think you're allowed to do that - you have to de-reg them, and then provide evidence of how and what you are teaching them (you don't have to do this if they never go to school in the first place) and then they're not guaranteed a school place if you want them to re-enter later

and also to be a bit blunt, his problems are such that me teaching him would be a bit like the blind leading the blind

sorry to hijack, I keep making token references to apples and carrots and stuff to distract...

BBBee · 24/03/2008 20:20

ahh, you see the f and v references are kind of inferred rather than explicit. We always often tangent.

pinkspottywellies · 24/03/2008 20:20

I liked the pak choi (we had it steamed with my curry - I made it form scratch, did I say?!) but dh didn't. I was surprised he liked the curry because of the coconut milk, lemongrass, ginger etc which he would say he doesn't like if he knew they were going in but I guess they taste different blended.

Greeny so for ds. Do you think he's built it up in his head to be worse than it will actually be or does he just find it awful?

S1ur · 24/03/2008 20:23

Will he be moving to a new class in Sept Greeny, might things improve then? In which case a break might be an idea..

Franny - I think I mean disconnected in that its like he needs to be with me or held by me all the time because maybe he feels pushed away?!? He was feeding a lot during the day, (he's 18m) mainly it seemed for cuddling reasons and to snuggle and play with my hair. Oh I don't know, he has just been so unputdownable in the last couple of days, corresponding with me distracting him with fruit and refusing to sit in usual bf haunts.

He is getting so many cuddles but he seems very dependent all of a sudden.

Greensleeves · 24/03/2008 20:28

no, it really will be that awful, he just doesn't cope with the routine, and the abrupt transitions, and the noise. The teacher isn't kind or gentle with him, that's the bottom line - even though she KNOWS DAMN WELL he has Aspergers, and is smugly pointing out typical behaviours like putting hands over ears/tantrumming at tidy-up time as typical Aspergers - she STILL punishes and terrifies and brutalises him and says "he's got to learn" The only thing he is "learning" is that adults can be consciously fucking unfair and lazy in their dealings with children, and that feigning a stomach-ache is better than going to school in the morning

last time I spoke to her she said his recent deterioration in behaviour was due to the "novelty wearing off", and that he must realise that "school is for good"

to which I said "Well, no actually, it isn't, is it - it's a gauntlet he'll have to run until he's 18, and then the world becomes a broader and less insular place in which most of us eventually find a niche"

she pulled a face like a bulldog licking piss off a nettle

Greensleeves · 24/03/2008 20:29

sory, forgot I was on the veg thread

pinkspottywellies · 24/03/2008 20:35

S'ok. Nettles count as veg

pinkspottywellies · 24/03/2008 20:38

No chance of changing class to a different teacher, I suppose? Or different school even?

BBBee · 24/03/2008 20:45

what is the senco like?

have you seen his IEP - does it have comprehensive thigns in it like the things this teacher seems unable to deal with? Are there positives? Little goals he can achieve to make it easier for him to be in the class room?

Am cross on your behalf.

ladywombling · 24/03/2008 20:53

Greeny,

That is just beyond crap of her, any poss of moving him? Different school/different class? Children should not be terrified of school, it's appalling at any age, but so so rubbish at such a young age, I am v angry for him, and you.

aviatrix · 24/03/2008 20:57

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ahundredtimes · 24/03/2008 20:59

She brutalises him? How?

It maybe that you are all going on a upward learning curve do you think? And she will need to have it explained about what are the best approaches. And get them written in the IEP perhaps?

Oh dear. I hope the Senco is good?

Oh Greeny, it is all so tiring and hard. I am sorry.

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FrannyandZooey · 24/03/2008 21:26

yes, you have to deregister, which you don't have to do if they were not in school to begin with, but after that it is the same - you have to legally provide them with a statement of your educational philosophy, I believe, and they may ASK to see evidence of the education you are providing, but you are in no way legally obliged to comply with this

they will of course take you to court if they feel they can prove you are not providing a suitable education

anyway this is by the by, but just wanted to clarify that the legal situation after deregistering, is no different for children who have been to school, and those who have never been to school

I wish we had more knowledge so we could give you good advice You know I will support whatever you decide is best for him even if I bang on about HE once in a while. Just looking for a way out of this awful scenario for the both of you, but I know really that there isn't a simple solution

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TooTicky · 24/03/2008 21:45

My god, what the hell has been going on? I can't read it all.

Greeny, are there any positives about school? At all? If you and he can't come up with anything - or anything worth staying for - then I would seriously recommend taking him out, at least for a while.
I had a pretty shitty time at school, for different reasons, but it just takes over your whole life. The actual time you spend there, travelling to and from, dressing for it, dreading it, everything.
Before I took dd1 out of school, it felt like the most enormous, radical step ever. From where I am now, it seems quite normal and I have even considered pulling the others out too.
And the teacher sounds like a real shit. Your ds deserves better, and if they can't do that for him...
But I know it isn't easy and that it will affect everything.

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FrannyandZooey · 24/03/2008 22:02

shall we have the papaya thread tomorrow and make a fresh start? we have not had the greatest weekend, communally, have we?

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Greensleeves · 24/03/2008 22:08

yes to papaya, I love papaya

and I is going to start actively joining in the 10/10 threads, instead of just wandering in a blithering about ds1's oxygen thief of a teacher

Greensleeves · 24/03/2008 22:09

and I Have Met Aviatrix, by the way

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[name-dropper]

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FrannyandZooey · 24/03/2008 22:12

we love you and we want you to blether
and you will scare everyone by your prodigious vegetable intake, and get a badge

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Boco · 24/03/2008 22:30

I'm going to have a clean slate from tomorrow, going to try harder again. Feeling better after afternoon sleep today. [resolve]

Good luck with the meeting Greeny, does sound horrid. DDs first term in year one was pretty difficult and she'd cry going and coming home - but this term things were different and she's suddenly calm again. I know different set of issues, but hope he gets the right support in school.

Pink sorry about bleeding throat.

Wombling hope ds is better - dd2 has had sickness and diarrhea, is vile and washing never ends.

Avi, hope your tooth is ok and less wooden tomorrow.

We're all a bit broken this week aren't we. New start with papayas and peaches.

BBBee · 24/03/2008 22:49

yes let's

we will be good.

Boco · 24/03/2008 22:50

Yes! 10/10 all the way!

S1ur · 24/03/2008 22:52

Oh good are we starting afresh? And a lovely peaches thread? Can we sing President of United states of America then

I'm already feeling better since feeding ds tonight before bed, sigh, I do love feeding and so does he. Maybe this plan is mistimed...

Am very glad you too are feeling better Boco.

Boco · 24/03/2008 23:01

Thank you Slur.

I had this issue with dd2 on and off for ages, with the feeding. I kept deciding to stop and then not to. In the end we carried on until just before she was 3. The other day she said 'mummy, remember when I used to suck your boobs? That was good, wasn't it!' It just sounded rather odd, although dd1 thought it was hilarious.

ladywombling · 24/03/2008 23:21

Hi all, new thread sounds good,

Thanks everyone for the sympathy, DS is looking a little better, although I am not!

Avi DS will be 1 in 2 weeks! I can't believe it, he is turning into a little boy before my very eyes, not my little baby any more, sob.

DD said today "Mummy, DS looks a bit sad, I think he needs milk from your boobies to make hime feel better" Made me smile, anyway.