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Problem/Dependent Drinkers and Alcoholics (recovering or active) Support III

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ornamentalhaggis · 12/02/2008 04:19

Time for a new thread already!

Welcome to the thread, the purpose of this is to give anyone who is having any trouble with their drinking, a safe place to come and post about it honestly and without judgement.

There are many of us that use the thread for support and encouragement: some in recovery, others just needing a place to share about their worries. It's been going on in one form of another for a while now and has helped many people.

Thank you to all of those who have kept it going thus far, and welcome to anyone who has decided the time has come to ask for help.

Everybody's welcome, no matter what stage your drinking is at.

Jump right in, the water's fine

kokeshi

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gerbrajess · 02/04/2008 12:33

Hi Flowertop,
At risk of over-posting (hope no one's sick of hearing from me), you did really well on Monday so keep that in mind.
I came a cropper last night too - I didn't even have a reason - habit, addiction, no
willpower...it is hard isn't it...
Gerbra x

kokeshi · 02/04/2008 12:48

Hi guys, don't worry about any perceived failured, all of these situations are valuable learning experiences. Flowertop, you very accurately pin-pointed when and where it went wrong last night so that's a major step forward. Did you have wine in the house? I think no matter how strong our resolve, if we want to give ourselves the best chance possible we have to remove all temptation. There's not point in testing yourself like this, because life inevitably throws things up that will be stressful, and will need to be dealt with.

So, what about tonight then? For those who've has had a few days sober in a rows have you found it easier after each day? What's feels better and what feels worse? I think I was surprised at how long it took for my sleeping pattern to settle, I've always had problems sleeping so it's just something I have to accept. Talking to a medical professional put my mind at rest with this. He said that a couple of hours natural sleep a night is far superior to 8 or 10 hours of alcohol or chemical induced sleep. One of the best things though was actually waking up and feeling so relieved that I could remember the night before.

Glowwormish - here's something about knowledge management. Our friend came to help us with it, because we're only a 2 person business it's hard to organise ourselves and our time properly, prioritising and keeping track of which projects we're working on. Most of the tools we use are online 'virtual' management systems, I guess tehy replace the old filing cabinet system. We don;t get it right all the time, but it's easier to keep track and divide the tasks when we have a centralised system to refer to.

Jellibabe, the thing about one to one was kinda what I was asking. I think that's why most people find AA frightening at the beginning. I think initially talking to one person, telling them your deepest, darkest secrets can sometimes pave the way for other sources of support. Again, most drinkers when they're first sober are terrified of interaction, I was convinced I was only able to have a conversation when I was pissed. I had a real self-esteem and confidence issue, which has thankfully improved over time. I remember it well though, and know how drink just seemed to be the panacea for all my issues.

Inpatient detox is generally just that. There are no groups or classes when a patient is detoxing, they'll be on a reducing dose of Librium (usually) for about 5-7 days, which kinda spaces you out. It's really only the very heavy drinkers who need this level of supervision because of the risks of fits and other withdrawals complications. They take blood and just watch you closely. Most of the time, I guess passes in a bit of a blur. Then, there's a 3 week alcohol education course (usually) when the patient is drink free and finished the course of librium. I KNow the also do outpatient detoxes over this way, but it requires a level of self-regulation (taking pills home) so they need to be sure that the patient isn't going to overdose or fit, or whatever.

Before any addictions counsellors or general busybodies jump on me, I'd just like to say that this is in my experience. Anyone else want to chip in with other detox and rehab strategies - or hints and tips - please feel free to do so.

dinny · 02/04/2008 14:14

hello, everyone,

re sleeping, just wanted to say I have been having the most MAD dreams, brilliant! looking forward to tonight's...

kokeshi · 02/04/2008 22:28

Where is everyone tonight? Anyone trying for a drink free night?

BrassicMonkey · 03/04/2008 01:02

Hi everyone

I haven't posted for a long time, especially long considering that I used to use these threads as a kind of journal.

I did have a good period of sobriety last year and although things were shakey towards the end of the year I started off 2008 feeling really positive. That lasted for about 3 weeks and since then I've been in and out of relapses.

I'm going to the local Community Alcohol Team tomorrow for an asmt. I don't know much about what it involves but my DSis was an inpatient at the same hospital last year so I have lots of insider knowledge at my finger tips, if only I'd got round to asking her about it...

I'm really nervous and not helping myself by staying up so late tonight. I just can't sleep - got so much going through my head and thought it might be a good time to start posting on here again. I haven't really followed the activity on here recently but notice that we've got lots of newcomers - welcome - and our regulars are still about giving good advice and sharing their experience of active/recovering alcoholism.

I'll post tomorrow after my asmt.

gerbrajess · 03/04/2008 01:20

Hi Brassic,
just wanted to say hi, I'm a newbie and have absolutely no wise words to impart (am drinking whiskey and coke...again...). Hope all goes well tomorrow
Gerbra x

havalina · 03/04/2008 01:37

Good luck Brassic, I have really felt for you and identified with you, I wish you well, and so much luck in your sobriety

gerbrajess · 03/04/2008 01:37

Anyone around now for a chat?

BrassicMonkey · 03/04/2008 01:40

Thanks both of you.

I should be in bed gerbra, but I've decided to make my way there at 2am, so I'm here for 20 minutes or so...

havalina · 03/04/2008 01:44

How is everyone?

gerbrajess · 03/04/2008 01:45

How are things with you Brassic?
Do you know what the appointment tomorrow entails? (what is an asmt??).
I'm in the blissful state of denial - ie. I can't bear to admit that my drinking might mean I can't go back to being a 'social' drinker - all my friends drink..how does that work?!
How has the last year been all in all?

gerbrajess · 03/04/2008 01:47

...and hi Havalina, I don't think we've met [shakes hands]...

havalina · 03/04/2008 01:49

Hi gerbrajess, I'm sorry don't know your history? I know what you mean about the social drinking thing

gerbrajess · 03/04/2008 01:50

Brassic, I mean how has your last year been in terms of drinking, not being outrageously nosy!

havalina · 03/04/2008 01:52

I do know that I can do social drinking but it enetirely depends who I am drinking with

gerbrajess · 03/04/2008 01:53

Havalina - My history is basically that I'm now a heavy/problem/dependant drinker and would love to kick it...
Have you been through a problem phase and are now through it?
Mine has crept up over the last few years...

BrassicMonkey · 03/04/2008 01:53

Gerbra, asmt means assessment - I used the abreviation as I'm not sure of the correct spelling

I'm not sure what will happen tomorrow. Probably just ask lots of questions about drinking habits and discuss ways forward. I'm soooo nervous about it though, even though I know they are there to help people like me and will have seen a hell of a lot more severe cases before.

I understand where you are regarding not wanting to face putting the bottle down for good. I felt like this last year when I first admitted I had a drink problem, but I refused to think about it as it was just too bloody scary and final.

I had no idea last year, what I was drinking to get away from. It's been really painful to have to face up to my issues and that's what's led me back to picking up again...time and again. These are the things I need to talk about tomorrow and that's why I'm frightened and can't sleep.

Just keep posting on here, or join us on Facebook if there's anything that you don't want to make public.

havalina · 03/04/2008 01:54

Which is bad in itself really.

havalina · 03/04/2008 01:57

Sorry, I am in a problem phase tbh, I have gone downhill over the last year since my Mum died. What is it about facebook? I have that but I really don't know how to use it.

gerbrajess · 03/04/2008 01:59

Oh, good luck brassic...
I suspect you're at a much more honest point in time than I am at the moment... I guess it takes a bit of time to finally front up to yourself (which is not where I am at this point). The good thing is ... that's what they're there for, you can just let rip and see how they can help?
I have a Gp appointment tomorrow and deep down I know I should mention the drinking, but am just too ashamed/worried/scared/ostrichy
Best of luck tomorrow, I imagine it can only be positive...
Gerbra x

havalina · 03/04/2008 02:01

Sorry to hear about your problems btw Gerbrajess, I am really quite shite at forums and tend to focus on myself when really I want to listen to others.

gerbrajess · 03/04/2008 02:01

Havalina - so sorry to hear about your mum...
hope you've had friends and family around to support?
Gerbra x

gerbrajess · 03/04/2008 02:02

Havelina - my problems, compared to other people's, are non-existent!!! I'm just lightweight and have no will power...oh yes...and have alcohol issues!

havalina · 03/04/2008 02:02

I can understand about the ostrichyness too, I'd rather die than admit anything to my crappy Gp lol

gerbrajess · 03/04/2008 02:03

i've never been on facebook so I can't help there I'm afraid...

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