Zoe Nutrition Testing

[Wombat27A]

Not sure this is the right place for this...

Anyone else doing the Zoe Nutrition Testing?

My results were poor, so now I'm tackling my diet. I thought it was pretty good but it's clear it needs a major overhaul. So much information but finding it good.🙂

Ugh I can’t face more bread and cheese today!! Having a day off 😄

Hmmm was 7mmol at 4am, 4.3mmol at 7:45am, ate some porridge (oats, blueberries, water, almond butter), now 3.9mmol 🙃 starting to think my monitor is broken 😄

So I say goodbye to my monitor with my worst day ever of readings! Truly awful

Horribly high when I woke up. I tried no breakfast, went sky high. Had a bit of Spanish omelette and my first oats and went even higher and hadn't dipped down to my normal level all day!

I usually comfortably hover around 5.5 after lunch with a small spike at dinner time.

So no oats and no IF for me!

I'd not have thought you'd have so much impact from IF @lugeforlife. At least you know now.

I've managed to keep mine quite low all day but have been starving all day, worse than for the last two weeks.

I'm with you on the bread and cheese @MassiveSalad22 - I won't be able to eat a bagel for a while

So I have a date for my tests - 4 august. How exciting. Just having a shower then off to rip off the monitor

Sorry another question - did you delete the libre app?

I haven't yet but I can't see why I would keep it.

Has anyone managed to do this. My app ‘homepage’ is just the current day I’m on of the programme and I can’t see a magnifying glass icon anywhere…

@Flockameanie

Where are you in the programme ?

Do you have your results and have you agreed a start date for the next phase? Lots more functionality opened up for me at that point.

@FinallyHere I’m only on day 5! I’ve done the muffin tests. Doing the blood glucose challenges next week.

I’m trying to log my meals (as prompted by the app), but it’s hard because I make everything from scratch (including bread)…

I can't remember when this happened but it might be when you get your scores.

You get a foods tab & can do lots of searching for foods.

Ok, thanks!

With the bread, I just picked the nearest retail version and assumed that mine would score higher. It's not ideal tho and now I've done the recipe thing above, it still scores low for me. I'm a really good baker, so it's my hobby as well! 🙄

The chat guys gave me a foccacia recipe, which was similar to one I got from Ma Baker (if you like to bake and want to go on a course, highly recommended) and it's basically 100% hydration if you use baker's % for your bread.

I’m not at the scoring stage @Wombat27A yet. So I’m actually a bit confused why one of the ‘lessons’ yesterday was about logging meals when it’s so hard to do at this stage.

I make my own sourdough (a hobby for me too) and I really hope it doesn’t score low! I wonder why higher hydration makes a difference to a score? My sourdough focaccia is around 90%

I stopped logging after testing & it was a mistake as they score your meals retrospectively.

There's lessons on how to integrate lower scoring foods into meals.

Oh dear I haven’t been logging some meals, only when I remember! Maybe I should try and do it retrospectively 😬

today I’ve had 1x toast with 2 scrambled eggs, loads of chocolate biscuits, jacket potato for dinner. Have been around 5mmol all day! So am more confused than ever and genuinely wondering if my monitor has stopped working 2 days too early.

There are free Libre sensors on HotUkDeals at the moment - requires telling some fibs though (you have to be diabetic and not used one before) so I’m too much of a wimp for that, but if anyone wants to give it a go…!

Are people finding this helpful and worth the money?
After waiting for ages on the waiting list, I finally got a place but the price is making me hesitate. I need to make my mind up by tomorrow. I'm vegetarian and have reduced things like white bread, pasta and rice recently. I've read The Glucose Revolution. Is ZOE going to tell me anything I don't already know?

@GardenExpert its probably too soon for me to say as I haven't got my results yet. However just doing the glucose monitor was interesting for me. I observed spikes I wasn't expecting and foods I though would have a negative impact (eg pizza) were less spiked than ones I thought would be ok (bloody bagels).

It has alerted me to the fact that whilst not at diabetic levels, my fasting blood sugar levels are high so I need to take some action and I think I need to eat 3 meals a day rather than snacking or IF, both of which seemed to make my blood sugar wobble all over the shop.

All of this could be worked out for the cost of the cgm I guess so what I'm hoping the programme will help with is the how.

I'd say the same as @lugeforlife - we're pretty much at the same stage. I feel I've learnt a lot which I'll put into practice the next couple of weeks. Whether it's worth the whole cost I'm not 100% sure yet, but I'm fairly confident it will be.

One thing I would say is that there's a few of us at the same stage and we've had very different responses to the tests, which has been interesting and also reassuring that we are all different which is the underlying message for Zoe.

Todays the first day I've put it all into practise, I only took my monitor off this morning and I was busy testing everything I could before then. Even today I feel I've got much more energy than usual. Like @lugeforlife said, I'm aiming for 3 square meals and cutting back on snacks as it was clear from the testing it doesn't do me any good at all

I was wondering if it might be an idea to collate the "to do" stuff, like walk after food, etc. Mainly because of my memory...

I must have missed the reason for ACV too?

I'm still pondering the "is it worth it?" question. I think so for me, as the cost is less than I was spending on not getting anywhere fast. It's been that nudge to improve things further.

I’m doing it because I want to know how ‘good’ my gut microbiome is. And that’s not something that the glucose monitor alone will tell me. There is such strong evidence that the health of the gut microbiome impacts our broader physical and mental health.

I’m still in the testing phase and I’ve definitely learnt more than when I previously wore a glucose monitor. The tests are more controlled and systematic than I did on my own. Plus you can’t learn about your blood fat control using a glucose monitor - that has to be done in the lab.

So yes, I’m optimistic it’ll be worth the cost. I had to steal myself to click pay, but rationalised the cost as an investment in my long term health.

@Wombat27A I also am not familiar with why ACV is a good idea but they had one 'with the mother' with 30% off in the supermarket today so I'm gonna find out.

Also I listened to the menopause podcast yesterday if you wanted a précis

Thanks, that would be really helpful.

I'm kipping on the floor with my elderly dog atm, so even more dozy! 🐶😁

Costco do a live cider vinegar. It used to be in 1 big bottle but now in 3 smaller ones.

It is a very extensive list of poo microbes. That report is very detailed. 💩👍😁