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desperate fag quitter! Anyone similar, fancy mutual support group?!

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fionagib · 08/08/2004 21:51

To my shame it's about my 167th attempt to quit fags... anyone out there trying the same who would like to start a support thingie here where we can rant and vent our frustrations and praise each other? I'm starting tomorrow...

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charliecat · 17/08/2004 22:11

I think we will be polietly asked to leave MN if we keep doing these huge posts!
I brought a what???????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I didnt have another read of my post, If i had false teeth they would have hit the monitor when I read that!!!!!
Yes, same birthday! Didnt have a bet on, wish i had of, did have dd1s birthday 3 days beforehand though so maybe i knew somwhow???!!! Dunno.
Think Fionas probably busy making lunchboxes and ironing clothes...he he...there are some disadvantages to the kids being back at school[evil glare emotion]

charliecat · 17/08/2004 22:14

Oh and heres a read about Tanya...earlier thread of mine minus todays update

minkmama · 17/08/2004 22:19

I didn't want to say about the cat shaped hanging basket . WTH is that?!!

finally having a bath now, will have a read of Tasha's thread after that!

minkmama · 17/08/2004 22:19

Sorry, Tanya

Posey · 17/08/2004 22:20

Thanks all for your welcomes.
I think one of the mistakes I made with Allan Carr before was getting all excited about being able to stop painlessly (as he says) that I kind of rushed reading the book. This time I am going to saviour it, read it properly so it could be a week or so before I finish it.

Congratulations to all of you on your week of fagfreeness. You should be very chuffed with yourselves.

I have 2 kids, in answer to your question. Dd is 7 and ds is 19m. Dd is a delight, ds is a demon at the moment. He's wonderful most of the time but has discovered temper tantrums,is giving me grief at night and and has decided he doesn't like most food except yogurt and chocolate.
Ah well keeps me on my toes.

Look forward to getting to know you all better soon,

charliecat · 17/08/2004 22:56

Hi again Posey, I have savoured over A.C so much I could probably recite chapter by chapter each and every small bit of detail. I could BE Allen Carr!!!! It totally does help as in the first few days you have this mine of information coming forward in your brain. I want a fag is answered with Allen Carrs...thats the nicotine leaving your system bla bla bla. What it comes down to is for every excuse you can think of, A.Cs covered it and you cant kid yourself anymore..there is no need to smoke
Your ds sound like my dd used to be. I cried often at the pathetic amount of crap she used to eat...I ended up leaving plates of things in the toy corner so she could nibble at her leisure, but it worked, things like crackers and dairylea, cucumber, digestive biccys. Didnt do much for my carpet though!
Feel free to join in as and when your ready!
MM, cat shaped wire joined to and above a semi-circle shaped hanging basket, cat is put against wall and basket is his belly of flowers...oh gawd, does that make it any better? I will take a photo if needbe!
Fiona...where RRRRRRRUUUUUU????

minkmama · 17/08/2004 23:19

Perhaps when flowers are growing out of cat's belly where fur is supposed to be

Yes, DS1 was and is very crap at eating. He is tiny and it's a real chore to get him to eat a meal! At one point he went a whole week barely eating anything! Have got past the tears now (hopefully, though you can never tell) but am still struggling. It didn't help with the non-smoking though...

I'm off to bed now, finally having an earlyish night, so night night all!

fionagib · 18/08/2004 00:50

sorry to be so late to post girls, have been working like a loon catching up on stuff I should have done in sumemr hols... am still working now, how tragic - workaholic!

Mink, thank god you're finally having a baff - you were getting pretty stinky

Yes mm went for a run and managed 35 mins which was unheard of in my smoking state, am delighted, v chuffed and feel great! (Though I stink, need baff).

Also I was too embarrassed to come onto m'net earlier tonight when dh was kicking about, and knew I was meant to be working - now he is in bed so am safe from prying eyes!

Poor cc - am sure all will be ok... my son sam (now 7) was pretty throaty and wheezy from about 1 year till 20 months. Shortly before we left london I took him to doc and he was admitted to hospital for a couple of nights as there was stuff on his lung, they thought he was asthmatic but as soon as we moved away it cleared up, there's been nothing since. In our case I think it was that respiratory thing - is it bronchiolitis? - which had never cleared up, and I'd been a bit negligent in not taking him back to doc, as the doc never prescibed anything. Hope she gets better soon...

Hi Fee77 - lovely to have you here, please join us - I'd say that crying is totally normal, have sobbed in the past over wanting a fag. Actually dh is in bed now and had left THREE packs of twenty in the kitchen and could sob over them but won't... think I may be recovering (slightly).

Have to say this would be so much easier if dh did not smoke!!!!!! I am still bloody tempted madly every time we have a glass of wine together and I spy his cigs.

goodnight girls, am gonna copy mm and have a lovely soaky baff. xxxxxx

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charliecat · 18/08/2004 01:04

You lot are all mad night owls, This is like the middle of the night to me, I came for a pee and noticed this was still on and couldnt help but say Hello..and now goodnight!xx
P.S Glad your back fg!

fionagib · 18/08/2004 01:24

am back cc and too revved up to go to sleep, dh prob v pissed off with me... hate that 'going to bed at different times' thing that we seem to have got into lately. Not good for you-know-what.

Better go an try get some kip now xxxx craving madly but trying to focus on gazelle-like image (haha - a v decrepit gazelle, I think... ) xxx

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charliecat · 18/08/2004 01:30

Night night, im browsing ebay...can hardly keep eys open, the bed needs remade and i really cant be assed, weve just watched a dvd on dps new contraption.

charliecat · 18/08/2004 01:30

On the front room floor with the quilts which is why the bed needs remade was what I was going to say...but didnt

fionagib · 18/08/2004 09:22

How is tanya today cc? It must be worrying for you - am sure she'll be fine, do sound off if you need to! xx

The hardest thing here is dh smoking. Nearly cracked last night. Feeling a bit bluesy (prob due to fags) - have a feature to finish this morning which just isn't coming together (concentration is a bit lacking...) and also - can I sound off here girls - have this neighbour situation, a woman I have knocked around with a bit for the past few years - our kids are great friends - find her so negative, which I've managed to put up with, but my tolerance is wearing out. We haven't seen each other much in summer hols so it's really hit me how snidey she is about my family. First thing she does, when we're in the park with a bunch of other mums (after school yesterday), is announce how bossy my dd is to her son. (erin is a bit bossy but is, I think, just a pretty forthright little girl with 2 full-on big brothers to stand up to!)

Then I mentioned that my sons were all attitudey coming out of school yesterday, from knowing around with their mates again and all rubbing off on each other in the playground - and she said, oh, right, blame their friends then!

Got home feeling a bit cross. Then she calls and says - right, tomorrow after school, shall we get the kids out on their bikes in the park again...

To put you in the picture I had her older son (7) for a 2 night sleepover at start of summer hol as she had to go away. On third night, I was knackered (the boys had all been up till midnight, so excited having their mate staying over) and met her in vid rental shop. She says, 'Oh, my boys would love to watch that - finding nemo I think it was - can they (her 2 kids) watch it at your place? I said no, we're just having a quiet time tonight - then her wee one, aged 4, started crying, and she said please can they come - so they did!! Ended up making tea for her kids and feeling so pissed off. dh couldn't believe I'd been duped into it.

Sorry about rant girls - am I being over sensitive due to no fags? At one point she was going for a classroom assistant job and asked if I'd look after her 4 year old while she was working!

Am I losing my mind...?

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charliecat · 18/08/2004 09:59

Hi Fiona, jusy going to get in the bath with your book thank you Looks good!
Your neighbour, well to me it sounds as if she all take take take with insulting remarks included, I seem to be surrounded by the same sort of meighbours myself, always borrowing and trying to throw thier kids in with mine but not once had anyone ever said oh do your dds want to come over here...may have something to do with the fact we are the only folks with swings and a slide but thats beside the point!
Are you worried your going to end up with all the kids on the bikes or that it will end up tea at your house for the neighbourhood?
Dont go if you dont want to, if you do want to go then go, but have a tasty excuse ready for why they cant come in for tea...for example your getting a take out/or youve brought one of those meal for 4 and (small eater erin) things from Sainsburys/Tescos wherever.
Dont know whether itd due to the fags, or its just a self imposed tantrum your brain giving you the excuse to want to smoke, but it sounds like a good enough excuse to be pissed off if you think your going to be shat on from a great height again.
Vent and Rant and ill be back to check after my bath xx
P.S Tanyas ok, watching Shrek 2 again.for thew eight time.

fionagib · 18/08/2004 10:34

Yeah, there'll be pressure to have them all back here for tea but the main thing is (and I've felt this for long time, not just since stopping fags) that she's very negative, brings me down, slags off other people who I like, and makes catty remarks all the time - plus, as you say, is always trying to dump her kids on me. Her 4 year old always charges upstairs and wrecks my sons' room, chucking toys into the fishtank, and she just sits there in my kitchen, going, 'ooh, I hade a lovely roast beef last night... my boys are so lovely, such a pair of crackers, yabber yabber...'while it's all CRASH BANG WALLOP upstairs! Recently I have found myself wanting to stab her in the eye.

She wanted to go running with me tomorrow night (she's a v good runner) but I managed to say no as I'm too slow for her!

Glad you got book cc, pls don't be embarrassed if it's not your cuppa!

mm how you doing today??

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minkmama · 18/08/2004 11:24

Hi girls. CC, good to know Tanya's well today. You guys were up late last night!

fg, your neighbour sounds really horrible to me. I hate it when people say things about other people's children unnecessarily, it's so rude! Not ot mention taking the p*ss and off-loading her kids without any gratitude. Either she's oblivious to her behaviour (which is odd) or she's aware of it and that's just selfish!! I've found that some people are jealous of others and have peculiar ways of expressing it. That might be it? My mum has a friend she sees often and regularly but that friend can't help but compare grandkids or even kids. She's not actually nasty, but there's def something in it. WE just ignore her because she's nice most of the time, but there is no need for you to put up with what's going on in your situation. Just bear her as and when you can but if she goes too far then put your foot down!! I don't believe it's the abstaining making you emotional...people always blame it on that but this is a genuine problem!

I think I'll get off my horse now.

Hope I didn't make you feel worse

Well done for not smoking about it

charliecat · 18/08/2004 12:18

Your neighbour sounds just like me lol...if there one thing I cant stand its other people kids LMAO...cough cough, no what I cant stand is what you describe, the run off and wreck the place type whos parents dont even offer to help tidy up the complete distruction thier little shit has created.
Is there no way you can put a stop to the bedroom destruction? I have put a ban on other peoples kids in my girls room, whether its tidy or messy, my kids make manageable mess in thier room, as do I rooting through to find clothes...I blitz it once a week.
Other peoples kids drag all they can out from everywhere, kick it all about, break a few things then move onto the next room. It pisses me right off so I dont allow it anymore. Its my bloody house and I dont want it!
Had to laugh at the stabbing her in the eye remark...it sounds like youve had enough of her for this month!
Lock your doors and hide is my advice, although its very annoying having people banging away at your door and your just thinking FECK OFF!!!!!!!!
I had a fish tank episode too, best friend and kids staying overnight, 6 in the morning...MMMUUUUMMMMMM.... bfs ds had filled the fish tank with bloody gerbil food. I was sooooooooooooo pissed off, 6 am fishing about getting pieces of dried banana out of the tank and then having to change the whole bloody lot which I didnt like doing at any time of day.
I do and did realise he was probably only trying to be nice and helpful...but my kids wouldnt feed someones elses fish without asking, whether it be real fish food or gerbil food. They just wouldnt do it.
High Horse #3 today LOL
Did you get your disk yet MM? You must be feeling good you didnt even mention fags in your last post!

fionagib · 18/08/2004 12:34

Thank you for reassurance that I'm not going off my noddle, girls! Gawd, the gerbil food story - how maddening!

Am gonna try to avoid negative neighbour as much as poss, just don't need the hassle right now. Trying really hard to finish a feature with deadline looming. work, brain, work!!

allen carr doesn't say much about brain-shutdown does he!

Hope your days are going well... xx

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fionagib · 18/08/2004 13:43

Oh girls I just don't deserve all your encouragement and support. I was feeling so stressed about this deadline that i went out and bought a packet of fags and smoked about five.

I was dithering about whether to tell you but can't bring myself to lie. I think I feel a bit post summer holiday blues-ish, have a whacking great book to check before I send it in on friday, this deadline, annoying neighbour... all sorry excuses, in fact no excuses at all.

cc and mm, am sure you're far more strong willed and will not crumble, but PLEASE PLEASE don't as it feels really horrible and disgusting. I am going to get it back together again tomorrow. I felt so great when I came in from my run last night, really proud, and now I just feel so crap. so sorry girls.

on a more positive note I've paid my entry fees for two 10k races, one in sept, another at start of oct, so HAVE to get my ruddy act together!!

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charliecat · 18/08/2004 14:05

oOh fiona!!!!!!!! What a dafty!!! Dont feel sorry for us, feel sorry for you, then get back up on your gazelle like heels and go for it.
This is the bestest i have ever felt before thanks to you guys, even when ive had my moment ive still been strong...which is VERY unlike me, any excuse and im there in the ashtray digging, and I think the only reason I havent is because I KNOW how low it makes me feel when I have just one that turns into 10...its fucking horrendous.
I have a tear in my eye for you, well quite a few actually, its the shittyest feeling in the world.
Go away finish your fags and think as your smoking them about how you dont really want to be doing it and how, now youve got them and your choking yourself with them, how much your now wishing you hadnt.
They are only precious when you cant have them...courtesy of A.C
I had pluresy which I thought was going to kill me, in fact I thought I was going to just die in my sleep, but I have still continued on and off for the past 2 years to smoke....its evil it really is. You need to get out of the trap.
Could you have another bash with the patches, I think they take the edge right off the madness, you can get them cheap, like 9 quid on ebay or the price of a prescription from the doctors.
Dont disapeer in a cloud of smoke, please, I need you for support and a good laughxx
P.S Im enjoying your book btw only about 15 pages in but I was totally engrossed till it suddenly dawned on me I didnt have a patch on and Id better hurry up and get one on before the madness took overxxx

fionagib · 18/08/2004 14:20

you're so lovely cc thank you - still want to be in the gang! Everything you say is right. Tomorrow is gonna be a good day! And it would be worse - I could've got some cafe creme cigars...

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minkmama · 18/08/2004 16:08

awww fg, don't bother feeling bad for us. like cc says, it's about you. it's so true that when you buckle and have those first few they're so nice, but you have to remember that in the grand scheme of things all those that follow are no way as good and are just a hard habit to break. I wish I could stick to those few but let's face it, they only exist every time you give up. Like CC (otherwise known as AC )says, they're only precious when they're unavailable (that's a particularly good quote CC). We know how hard it is, especially when there's something to smoke about and you get all stroppy and think you have a right to have one!! Ah well, put it down as part of the weaning experience. CC's right, why don't you use a substitute? I don't think i could do it without the sort of placebo. it's not a placebo at all, but you get the picture

i'm not strong willed at all fg, i just don't a)have hte time to think about them as much because i'm never on my own b) too much hassle to go out and get for the sake of that one puff.

Why don't you have another baby to keep ultra busy?

minkmama · 18/08/2004 17:31

only 3 hrs i know but where is everyone? how are you doing fg? lots of hugs if you're feeling low

charliecat · 18/08/2004 18:03

Sorry been out getting lost at a local park!
They had taken the slide down for some bizarre reason which left those boingy things and a roundabout and some baby swings, so we went off on a wander and ended up at the back of the girls grammar school which had those erm, hut things, all vandalised and one was even burnt to the ground!!!???!!! Doesnt look like that at the front!!!!!
MM, I was in town putting some money in the bank and if no 58 high street is the same road as the train station then i think the shops in the middle of being turned into some thing else.
I was looking at number 62, im assuming the one next door would be 60 and the 58, if the numbers do go that way was being gutted out to be turned into something else.
So i will make sure I find out if that is indeed High Street!
FG please join us again tommorow, you look very gazelle like on the photo at the back of the book and you so dont look as if a fag dangling from between your lips is at all you!
MM, thanks for your email, Give A.C a bit more ginger dyed hair a nose stu and a few randomly placed black thick chin hairs and he is me....we are one and the same.
Where are all the other joiners????

charliecat · 18/08/2004 18:04

P.S MM your not even mentioning fags in your posts???!!! Are you cured??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????