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Why would you not vaccinate?

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lizzlebizzle33 · 21/01/2018 10:31

Has anybody decided against vaccinations for their children? If so what were your reasons?

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nbroots · 08/02/2018 12:04

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Gigimoll · 08/02/2018 12:35

But is seems strange how coincidental it is. But that's just what I think personally. I honestly believe babies under one are too young for the vaccines given.
My dp is all for them. I'm not. But even he believes giving them too young with no allergy testing is ridiculous.

Gigimoll · 08/02/2018 12:40

Nbroots there's also the UFC fighter Nick Catone who lost his little boy to the Dtap? Vaccine. That is horrific. I don't understand how it's even worth considering having them. I couldn't live with myself if I woke up in that situation like they did where they woke up to their beautiful little boy dead knowing fully well I have the option in the UK to not vaccinate. I'm very greatful they aren't mandatory.

bruffin · 08/02/2018 12:53

Gigimoll
It is not strange how coincidental it is, because correlation does not makes causation. And as mentioned previously withdrawing vaccines does not affect the number of sids

GinIsIn · 08/02/2018 13:01

Even basic common sense can tell you that SIDS isn’t vaccine related - as the crackpots on here keep saying - there are more “nasty, scary” vaccines than ever before. Yet SIDs cases are reducing year on year.

bruffin · 08/02/2018 13:07

Tables from the Funayama, M., Tokudome, S., and Matsuo, Y., Autopsy Cases of Sudden Unexpected Infant Deaths Examined at the Tokyo Medical Examiner's Office, 1964-1993. American Journal of Forensic Medicine and Pathology, 1996. 17(1): p. 32-37

1964-68 : 250 SUD cases, almost none were SIDS
1969-73 : 153 SUD cases, almost none were SIDS
1974-78 : 153 SUD cases, approx. 7 were SIDS *
1979-83: 104 SUD cases, approx. 25 were SIDS
1984-88: 118 SUD cases, approx. 65 were SIDS
1989-93: 144 SUD cases, approx. 90 were SIDS

  • Pertussis immunization age was raised to two years in 1975
FrizzyNoodles · 08/02/2018 13:08

That little boys death was tragic but it was17 days after the jab. Its understandable that they would look for something to blame though.
The infant mortality rates in countries without access to vaccines is much higher.

Gigimoll · 08/02/2018 13:46

So it's okay to disregard it? Completely dismiss the little boy and many other children who have lost their lives?
Healthy babies don't just die.

nbroots · 08/02/2018 13:49

Yes Gigimoll I have.. heart breaking to say the least. They are fighting for Nicolas and there story has reached millions. I know one mum who's 8 weeks old prem baby girl died of ''SIDS'' 48 hrs after her shots. Half hour after her jabs she conked out and never woke up. Apparently it was nothing to do with vaccines because '' correlation does not makes causation'' .even though she was fine up till then. There seems to be an epidemic of global coincidences .. but it's ok they are formulating a vaccine for that ;)

bruffin · 08/02/2018 13:53

Healthy babies don't just die.

Where do you come up with this nonsense.

bruffin · 08/02/2018 13:56

Roald Dahl's daughter was also heartbreaking. She was a healthy girl who died of measles.

nbroots · 08/02/2018 14:00

Do you not care at all for the kids that have died or been brain damaged by vaccines Bruffin? And I mean the ones who have actually been proven & compensated?

Gigimoll · 08/02/2018 14:00

They don't though do they? Unless a careless parent throws them down the stairs. Why should any healthy individual just die? Including a child. Who coincidently had shots pumped full of shit and dies within 48 hours? Hmm..
What healthy child do you know that's had no shots just die? Cause my dd is thriving without shots. As is my cousin without shots. As is his children. Yet I know 3 girls loose their babies to vaccines. An one who's baby is suffering badly with side effects who needs to have antibiotics daily for the next 3 years of his little life.

bruffin · 08/02/2018 14:04

Of course I do, but i get the impression you only care, about those you believe were affected by vaccination.
Gigimoll
Your dc are being protected by herd immunity.
Yet I know 3 girls loose their babies to vaccines.

I very much doubt it

Gigimoll · 08/02/2018 14:10

My dc are being protected by good food and an incredible immune system because I've not let it be suppressed by jabs making their immune system lazy by sparking off something. An yes, I do know parents of vaccine related deaths. You can't be so ignorant to turn a blind eye to them. They happen. It's not a random thing. It's very common. It's very disrespectful to a parent who has lost a child to them even when it's written on the autopsy "vaccine related" and say its accidental because they're being protected. Or it's sids. Knowing fully well a parent knows the sids risks and takes care of their own children.

Roomba · 08/02/2018 14:15

One of my friend's children hasn't received all of his vaccinations. He had a life threatening allergic reaction after one lot when he was a baby - very rare, but does happen. He has other related allergies that were discovered as a result. That really is the only reason I can see for not doing it. She still had all her other children fully vaccinated afterwards and hate people who don't do it by choice, as they increase the risks to her non vaccinated child who is unable to be protected. Her Immunity is really important for people like him.

nbroots · 08/02/2018 14:20

Not true at all! All I want to see, and actually fight for, is SAFE vaccines. All children deserve the very of best care we can offer . I wish there were no diseases at all but we will never see an end to that. Vaccines need to be 100% SAFE . They will NEVER eradicate disease off the planet. All that's happening is disease mutation and postponing disease into later life. We can't just pump 100's of vaccines into people and expect glowing health. Will vaccinomics become reality ? What do you think of Adversomics?

nbroots · 08/02/2018 14:30

Roomba - Does your friend know that although the whooping cough vaccine can protect the individual, it cannot prevent them from being an asymptomatic carrier? In other words her other children can still spread pertussis and not have any recognisable symptoms if they were to come in contact with it again? The flumist sheds, Rotavirus can be shed though faeces and spread to others in the house too.

bruffin · 08/02/2018 14:40

Nroots
You dont fight for "safe" vaccines by spreading misinformation about vaccines.

nbroots · 08/02/2018 14:42

Which is?

KatharinaRosalie · 08/02/2018 14:58

some of the cells are 40 or mor years old so you can imagine why girls get their menopuse so early nowdays.

Um what??

bruffin · 08/02/2018 15:06

Linking to Suzanne Humphries to start with.

nbroots · 08/02/2018 15:14

Yeah she's so uneducated isn't she. Dumb ass Dr quack.. giving up her 6 figure salary for a life of uncertainty and death threats. Mmmm wonder who she has pissed off?

bruffin · 08/02/2018 15:52

Then its even more disturbing she has got it so wrong. There are rogues in every profession.

nbroots · 08/02/2018 15:55

Just out of curiosity.. Have you looked at all the referenced PMID studies she gives in her lectures?

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