Why would you not vaccinate?

[lizzlebizzle33]

Has anybody decided against vaccinations for their children? If so what were your reasons?

Fuck me can't believe some people still are peddling this shit.

I am very open minded but not stupid. I use alternative medicine such as acupuncture for somethings as it works but not other types such as homeopathy as that doesn't. Vaccines have saved the lives of millions of children. Yes there can be side effects but not many. I have never met anyone in rl who thinks there child has been effected. But I know people who have disabilites as result of childhood illnesses. My DGF hsd polio and has bow legs. I was hospitalised with measles as a child and my colleague is deaf as a result. Yes big pharma are a load of cunts, yes skme medicines are no better than alternatives but some illnesses need vaccines. If you are woreued about the effwct of a small dose thrpugh a vaccine you would be terrified of what a full does coukd do.

1. Vaccines don't cause autism

1. Autism isn't worse than your child dying from a vaccine preventable disease anyway

Jesus this thread is depressing.

Always question and make your own informed decision!

Informed is the word. I will be honest and say I don't think the majority of people are able to understand research papers, not because of lack brainpower but because they are written in a certain way for a group of people with specialist knowledge, if you don't have that knowledge you will not get the same understanding from the paper as someone with it.

What gets me is the people who say "I look at the evidence and don't believe anything Big Pharma tells me", which is reasonable enough but then they do believe whatever any anti-vac website says, despite people making huge amounts from books and 'natural' therapies.

My dc were vaccinated up until the point where my dd had a major allergic reaction, went into cardiac arrest and spent a chunk of time fighting for her life in ICU. After that, although I'm pro vax, I decided that it wasn't for me to take that risk again.

My dc are aware of what happened, they are also aware of the benefits of vaccination - the choice will be theirs as they reach an age where consent is for them to give (and vaccines would need to be given in hospital as a precaution).

@lizzlebizzle33 don't take it personally, diehard 'pro-vaxxers' can be quite rude on here (trust me, I've experienced it). Show even the slightest bit of concern towards vaccines, or eagerness to assess their safety, and they're calling you names.

I will not vaccinate my child as I don't want her to be severely damaged for life.
The likelihood of getting these diseases are very slim and if she did have them, it wouldn't be as bad as you think.
You could argue people react different or the common "my aunt lost a limb due to it". Yes. But ask yourself this.
Said aunt lost a limb. Yet said child lost a life to a vaccination.
So she can loose a limb but a child being lost to a vaccine related death is bollocks? Hmm. There's a vaccine court injury for a reason. There's a reason you cannot sue if your child is vaccine damaged or even killed by them. You cannot sue. They are protected.

Okay. So the inserts on vaccinations are real and like everything, not one size fits all in the medication world. A lot for anti vaxxers are precious vaxxers who've had children become brain dead or even die due to them. Vaccines aren't a magical potion. It takes 26 seconds for the metals to travel to the brain and cause damage. You wouldn't INGEST so why INJECT?

TRUTHFULLY too, I've spoken to many doctors. I myself and my brother were/are vaccine damaged. So are a lot of my family. Rheumatoid arthritis is one for me which is written as a side effect.
Honestly when I had my daughter, I was on the fence and my mom begged me to not vaccinate her. But when it came to her 8 weeks check up I couldn't let it happen to her. I searched for a new doctor who refused to vaccinate his own kids due to not wanting to damage them. They are dangerous. They are to be disposed of in a special way which is hazardous. Why would you want to put it into your child's body?

I don't judge other mom's. Were all doing what we think is best. But it pisses me off people pay more attention to how much sugar they consume and not what is being injected into their children.

you are very wright! i posted a message before which was removed from some reason i cannot understand..we ordinary people do not understand medical terminology and written theses by doctors who study vaccines I dont understand these either but there is someone who has made 20 short movies about what happens with newborn brain when it gets so many poisoning substances like formaldehyd or heavy metal not saying about aborted cells used to create vaccines (theses cells cause that your child gets someone else's DNA, other people DNA, DNA from a child with down syndrome or having any other dissability)some of the cells are 40 or mor years old so you can imagine why girls get their menopuse so early nowdays. Babies dont have brain- blood barrier so everything what is being injected goes straight to the brain this is why children cry a lot after vaccinations as their brain swells... there are lots of info about it but you wont see it in TV..i very recommend you a book part 1 and 2..'Hidden therapies' by Jerzy Zieba you can easly buy it on amazon or ebay..this is the beginning of understanding how your body works and what it need to be healthy..every parent should have it..it is simple written and all difficult terminology explaine..

i am not sayig i know more than GPs but when i come to see my GP they google for information that I already have. so when i come for consultation before vaccination to check whether my child is ready for it and the GP says its ok even though my baby has running nose...how then i should trust people who suppoused to be educated and well informed..myself i know you should not vaccinate if there is any little problem with child.

myself i have different information about the autism being caused by vaccinations. i have friend whose children got autism after jabs and autism is no more a genetic illness it can be triggered by different substances being injected into the brain...

Christ, the amount of fact-free, ill informed horse-dung being peddled by anti-vaccination idiots on here is nauseating.

Why bother with masses and masses of peer-reviewed evidence when you can just pull an opinion out of your arsehole and then use that to justify your ignorant and dangerous life-choices?

My gp is damn useless. Every time I've taken my daughter when she's been poorly I've been given shit advice and shit drugs that made her worse. They Google her symptoms and offer no help and just patronise me.
The doctor who was going to give her her jabs refused to show me the inserts as I wanted to be sure (which triggered me to leave with her unvaccinated) and told me babies don't die from vaccinations and there are no side effects. Right.
Tell that to my mom who had my brother and myself vaccine injured.

how do you know these are non-fact information? who you are to justify what is wright or wrong? If I would be an ignorant I would not research information about what I am going to inject into my babies body! Ignorant is a person who tells me that my decision is wrong...

You should have been referred to a specialist to discuss your exact reaction and to work out what would be a safe schedule for your DC (if it is one specific component, then avoiding just that might be possible).

Unfortunately, as with every other profession, you occasionally come across someone who is an utter of not downright incompetent. The standard of that individual GP isn't any reflection on doctors as a whole, nor is it relevant to the safety of the vaccine program (which has been studied by so many)

I disagree with not vaccinating and all my children have had all their injections! I'm deeply shocked people would choose not to vaccinate

If it were not for vaccinations people would still be dying from smallpox.

"You wouldn't INGEST so why INJECT?"

If you mean aluminium, then yes, you wouid ingest it. You get way more from diet than the minute amounts in immunisations

My son stopped breathing after his first set of injections it was very frightening. I had never been able to find out why. It was put down to being an allergic reaction from the needle.
It took me a long time to allow him to have any more after that.
My daughter is 22 months and not yet up to date, she has had her first two lots but I decided to wait longer for hers, fully intending to ensure she has them all just anxious with what happened to do at such a young age. Not trying to scare people it is just my unfortunate experience that has made me hold back.

Gigimoll

Rheumatoid arthritis is one for me which is written as a side effect.

Do you have confirmed evidence of this? I am genuinely interested. If so what vaccine was it?

Fintress. Hep B. It can trigger a lot of inflammatory diseases. Even States in the inserts it can bring RA among other things including respiratory diseases.

Why would you eat aluminium? There are chemicals in everything. But injesting your body has kidneys etc to filter out toxins. You cannot flush toxins out of the blood stream when injected. It goes straight to the brain.

Thanks Gigimoll, going to have a read up on that. I have RA and have also had Hep B vaccination but a long time after I was diagnosed.

I think there is some confusion about the role of the GI tract in passing ingredients in food into the blood stream (ie ending up in exactly the same place as injection directly into the bloodstream). From which substances may either be stored in the body of eliminated via the kidneys.

The idea that babies do not have a fully functioning blood-brain barrier was shown to be false in 2010, with the discovery that it is pericytes (not astrocytes) which are responsible for its development.

Fintress. It's horrible. The medication sulfassladine? Sp? Made me worse so I've had to cut it all out. My great aunt is also a sufferer and she had I think stage 2? Breast cancer. It was cut out but she was told it would come back. She looked up a doctor called Michael Gregor who wrote an article about how not to die. It's about veganism.
She decided to do it and she went full vegan and even went on a cruise with him to research more and talk to him. Within 3 months her cancer hadn't (an years later) hasn't returned. Her deteriorating eye sight has significantly improved naturally. An she's off all medication. Including no pain with RA. I've been trying it for a few months as sometimes if I eat something that will trigger inflammation I won't be able to change my daughter, its really changed my life. I have sympathy with you because it's a terrible disease but definitely look it up. The Hep B can be a big trigger to it

"Why would you eat aluminium?"

Well, you wouidn't sit down for a plate of it. But it is found in most foodstuffs, because it is naturally occurring in the water supply.

(and may also leach from utensils, but even if you swerve those, you're going to get more from ingestion than you ever would from immunisations)