To ask why people don't vaccinate their DC even though we know that it doesn't cause Autism?

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www.thespainreport.com/16953/six-year-old-boy-with-diphtheria-in-catalonia-dies/

A 6 year old boy in Catalonia has died of Diphtheria. Why are people still anti-vaccinations?

Why? My SIL has not and is not vaccinating her DS. He's 14 months now and MIL is so worried.

A child and an adult have died of measles in the UK in the last two years

get back on point - we are apparently talking about risk.

1992 was the last measles death in the uk

Yes Midnight! Many people with autism find this offensive -the idea that their condition is a fate worse than death.
That's not to diminish the suffering of their families though. I can't begin to imagine what it must be like raising a child on the AS. So I don't blame parents for wanting to find reasons. The MMR isn't one of them.

And I do think the rise in dx of ASD is due to it being diagnosed when in the past a mild Aspergers would be considered 'good at maths or science and a bit of a loner' and a child with full-blown non-verbal autistic would have been labelled 'retarded' and parents advised to 'put away and forget'. We are thankfully a bit more enlightened these days.

Yes quite munchkin and if people use that overly simplistic risk analysis on mass then the risk of dying from Measles will increase. I would rather not take that risk so it is lower risk to vaccinate.

It was 2013 in Swansea

no it wasn't. might want to check actual stats instead of old news

Mikado, you might not have been aware of those behaviours. Once you become aware of something you tend to notice this more - this works on a societal and an individual level.

My father who is now nearly 70 has Aspergers. This has only been diagnosed in the last couple of years. If youd met him as a kid or in his 30s you would have described him as eccentric - many did. Now because Aspergers is discussed so much more, people recognise it in him much more. Arguably not having a diagnosis or a label helped him..
And equally arguably there is a lot of over diagnosis now...but that doesnt point to rising incidence

He died of pneumonia as a complication of measles.

MrsDeVere

best munch or whatever your name is.
I state again that the only MEDICAL reason not to vaccinate is previous anaphylaxis to that vaccine. Please read posts carefully before responding with yet more bullshit.
I think the word you were looking for was 'factual' not disingenuous

Measles deaths in the UK. Going down regularly since 1980. Because of vaccination programme.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/measles-deaths-by-age-group-from-1980-to-2013-ons-data/measles-deaths-by-age-group-from-1980-to-2013-ons-data

Giles - egg allergy not a reason not to give MMR and it does not need to be given in a secondary care setting

Thanks for responding ladydegrump, I find the perceived increase quite frightening and do wonder what on earth causes it? Especially when people talk about triggers and environmental insults etc., as there's not an actual gene as such that proves it's fully genetic, like with CF, huntingtons etc.

It's easy to assume that people who don't have their kids vaccinated are too stupid to understand risk properly.

But even if you know the risk attached to vaccination is small, as soon as you have your kid vaccinated you become directly responsible for anything that goes wrong. Whereas if you don't have them vaccinated you can change your mind at any time - sins of commission feel worse than sins of omission.

And of course if everybody else has their child vaccinated, then the chance of your child catching anything is very small. From a coldly rational point of view, your least risky position is to be an unvaccinated person in a community where everyone else is vaccinated.

take how long ago did the advice change then? I'm sure I've read posts on MN about advice being for some dc to have it done in hospital.

Today 10:18 bestmunchkinsever

1992 was the last measles death in the uk

Today 10:18 bestmunchkinsever

1992 was the last measles death in the uk

www.gov.uk/government/publications/measles-deaths-by-age-group-from-1980-to-2013-ons-data/measles-notifications-and-deaths-in-england-and-wales-1940-to-2013

Not according to this

Apologies for double quote

But not everyone is vaccinated hackmum so it is not an accurate analysis to make.

That's ok fuzzy. That is exactly the report that tells you when the last measles death actually was -1992.

No it says prior to 2006 the last death from acute measles was 1992

No it doesn't! it says "Prior to 2006, the last death from acute measles was in 1992"

So there have been deaths from measles since 2006.