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Would like to see my toes again! I want to lose weight because...

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WideWebWitch · 16/04/2002 19:58

I don't know if anyone else is trying to lose weight, but I realised recently that there are various things I do differently since I've put on weight, such as:

I half lie, half sit in an undignified sprawl on the bed to get my tights on since it's too uncomfortable to do it from standing and I'd probably overbalance

I roll out of our (very low down) bed in a kind of sideways, crab-like fashion and then get up from being on my knees. This one must be really attractive to watch!

I'm careful about my back all the time since it's slightly painful and I know it's due to the extra weight on my stomach...

I'm not gargantuan but have about 2 stone to lose. Realised today that not having to worry about the above is another incentive to stick at it.

Anyone else want to share their embarrassing reasons for dieting?? And I have no excuse for being overweight, ds is 4 and I'm not pregnant, although it's only a matter of time before someone asks me when it's due

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Jasper · 26/04/2002 13:46

thanks WendyM .
The book gets good reviews on Amazon.
I have read a few of the restricted carb books and they have all confirmed me as a carbohydrate junkie.

pupuce · 26/04/2002 20:56

Michel Montignac stuff is easy compared to others - I have the book in French if anyone is interested
He was THE author in the early 90's...

I followed his system for a while not because I needed to loose weight but because I felt very heavy after meals.

bluebear · 26/04/2002 22:33

wendym - I've been eating low GI foods for a while now with a steady weight loss of about a kilo a month (not much but it all adds up ). Do you eat bread? I find white bread really affects my sugar levels and brown bread isn't much better so I tend to eat noodles for lunch. I'm getting very bored of them however, so I wondered if you had any ideas for low GI lunches??

Jasper · 27/04/2002 02:46

Pupuce, wendy, bluebear, do you FEEL better on a low GI diet? My energy levels are so low at the moment I practically sleep on my feet most of the day. It is so easy just to snack on tasty, unhealthy stuff and I am just too tired and lazy to do much about it

pupuce · 27/04/2002 19:53

Sorry - I am tired... what's GI ?
I do feel that you feel lbertter and less tired after a meal where you didn't have meat and potatoes but meat and veggies or veggies and startch...
Jasper - If you are tired why don't you take a lactating woman supplement - I am (and I just wrote I was knackered... very convincing )

manna · 27/04/2002 21:10

jasper - not exactly a low gi diet, but basic food combining actually ups your energy levels as your body finds the combinations easier to digest, leaving you feeling less sluggish, maximising the nutritional values of your food etc. It works well for me. The basic principles: fruit only until lunch time. Never mix protein and carbs in one meal, just protein & veg or carbs & veg. No fruit for 3 hours after a meal as it does weird things to the gastric juices. This is a really basic version of 'fit for life', a great book my mum had in the 80's which I still try and stick to when I'm feeling virtuous. At the moment, post baby, I have weight to lose and have just started my new regime two weeks ago. I'm on a no carb (or only once every 2 days, and never with protein) diet, plus herbal detox for 10 days, plus fresh pressed veg & fruit juice every morning + gym 3 times a day + 200 sit ups a day. If that lot doesn't get me off to a quick (and encouraging)start, nothing will.....keep you posted I feel like I've got a mountain to climb - I've never had to lose weight in my life!

Jasper · 27/04/2002 21:49

Thanks Manna. Don't you find that as soon as you focus on limiting/modifying your food intake you become obsessed with what you are not supposed to have?
Pupuce, GI = glycaemic index, a measure of carbohhydrate content I think.
Which lactating womens supplement ?
Thanks

Rhiannon · 27/04/2002 22:05

Joining WW on Wed, am depressingly overweight but am permanently overeating. Don't know how to get out of the spiral. R

thumper · 27/04/2002 22:08

Manna, PLEASE reassure us, you did mean three times a WEEK for the gym, and not three times a DAY, didnt you? If not, you are truly Superwoman!

bluebear · 27/04/2002 23:10

Jasper, Yes I feel great when I stick to the lower GI foods. It took a couple of days to kick in properly but my food cravings stopped, as did the constant tiredness, muzzy head etc. (And as I have PCOS I am hoping the diet will increase my chances of having another baby).

I find my main problem is that if I eat something without thinking, and realise afterwards that it must be a high GI food (ie. some stir-fry sauces I have tried), then the cravings come back and I have to find some will-power all over again!

Pupuce, GI stands for Glycemic Index which is a measure of how quickly the sugars in the food can get into your bloodstream. In some people, if the sugar goes into your blood very quickly it can cause your insulin level to shoot up. This uses up all the sugar but then there is too much insulin so the sugar level in the blood drops too low. Then you get a craving for sugary foods, plus other symptoms (headaches, grumpiness, tiredness, feeling faint in my case). I used to eat every two hours or feel ill (and so I got quite porky), now I eat different foods, feel great and am slowly getting thinner.

manna · 28/04/2002 11:49

oh dear me - whoops! did mean 3 times a week, not day! it must be the herbal detox playing havoc with my brain. Pleased to report that after 2 weeks am feeling definately slimmer, that upper abdomen bulge (urgh!) has nearly gone and I put my old cords on today for the first time - hurrach I will keep going until I get into my size 10's yet. (With NO stomach overhang!)

Jasper · 28/04/2002 13:41

Rhiannon, that's me too...do you think it is due to all those years mixing amalgam?

Rhiannon · 28/04/2002 14:56

Jasper, no I'm just a lazy fat cow! Could we blame it on the mercury and claim massive compensation do you think?! R

Enid · 28/04/2002 15:57

I dieted last year and I remember Wendy pointing out at the time that I was kind of following a low GI diet - porridge for breakfast, toast and beans or a poached egg for lunch, low fat meal in the evening. I have to say I felt very well on it and the weight fell off. It was a kind of badly remembered version of the old F plan diet that my mum used to rave about (but not quite as anti-social, if you know what I mean )

salalex · 28/04/2002 20:10

Rhiannon,
Oh good, another Weight Watcher. I joined 4 weeks ago and have lost 7.5 lbs. You can make it much more interesting than their suggested diet plans, although it does take a bit of effort. I have really stuck to it...except for this weekend when we went to a really good place in Edinburgh for our 10th wedding anniversary - oops! Let us know how you get on.S.

pupuce · 29/04/2002 14:18

Jasper - It's Solgar that I use.They are for pregnant women and lactating mums... Prenatal nutrients I think it's called.
If anyone out there knows me- they know I am very AU NATUREL.... so if I recommend supplements.... I must be pretty pleased with them

pisces1965 · 29/04/2002 15:39

Rhiannan - I rejoined WW last Tuesday (I went about 4 years ago - 2 yrs before dd but was too busy with work to be bothered with it!). I was hungry for three days after joining but it has now passed.

I bought the WW cookbook, and we have had better, healthier meals this week, and all within points. I have also been drinking loads of water, and feel much better for it I have to say.

I'm looking forward to tomorrow, for my first week's progress - probably because I know that I have been good.

Keep us up to date on how you get on, and good luck. The cynical in me says its a waste of money, but if it gives me the incentive, its well worth the money for me!

Rara · 29/04/2002 17:53

Joined ww a year ago last new year and found it ok to stick to but couldn't understand why i wasn't losing much weight - turns out I was preggers - hoorah! Anyway, dd is now 8m and i've never been fatter so have decided to get old ww books out and do it from home (working p/t now so can't really afford classes). It DOES work and it allows you treats and also glasses of wine - which is essential! Bought the Eating Out book and the supermarket guide when I joind the 1st time and once you get to know all the points in your usual foods it becomes second nature. I DON'T believe in fad dieting - i think you have to have a mind set to change your approach to food and ww allows you to do that. BTW, i don't work for them - au contraire, I'm very cynical about their world domination with Heinz, but hey, I'm not lining their pockets anymore!

pupuce · 30/04/2002 11:14

This morning GMTV featured this which I thought might be useful for those of you questioning sugar and low fat diets !!

According to Food Doctor Ian Marber many of us are unwittingly eating much more than the recommended daily amount of sugar, as a result of unclear food labelling and a general misconception about "diet" foods.
So if you're looking to shed the pounds, be wary of foods that sell themselves as "healthy" as they may contain hidden sugar.
How does sugar make you fat?

To put it simply, the body converts sugar to energy - but whatever it doesn't need is stored as fat. As a rule you should limit your sugar intake to around 6 teaspoons of sugar a day on a diet of 1,600 calories; 12 on a diet of 2,200 and 18tsp on a diet of 2,800.

Are some sugars better than others?
Not really - all sugar (white, brown, icing, maple syrup, honey, molasses etc etc) is from the same source, whichever form it comes in. So don't be fooled into thinking that raw cane sugar is better for your than the white stuff!

Sugar in disguise
The following are all terms for sugar: sucrose, glucose, fructose, dextrose, corn syrup, sorbitol, lactose, maltose, mannitol, invert sugar, fruit juice concentrate, galactose, polydextrose, maltodextrin...

Sugar content in "healthy" foods:
low fat yoghurt: 125g pot contains 16g sugar = 4tsp
Tin of baked beans: 415g tin contains 24.8g sugar = 6tsp
Can of tomato soup: 400g tin contains 21.4g sugar = 5tsp sugar
Healthy oat bar: average 35g bar contains between 8 and 31g sugar = between 2 and 8 tsp sugar

Low-fat ...vs full-fat

Average chicken tikka masala (350g serving): 4g sugar, 25g fat
Low-fat chicken tikka masala (350g serving): 14g sugar, 8g fat
Greek-style yoghurt: (100g): 3g sugar, 11g fat
Low-fat yoghurt: (100g): 16g sugar, 2g fat
Digestive biscuits (100g): 17.8g sugar, 22.1g fat
Reduced fat digestives (100g): 20.7g sugar, 16.3g fat
Pain au chocolat breakfast pastry: (100g) 17.8g sugar, 22.9g fat
Typical "breakfast bar" (100g): 31g sugar, 8g fat
How do you work out the sugar content?

Look at the Carbohydrates column in the Nutritional Value table - it usually says "Of which sugars - Xg".

A teaspoon of sugar is roughly 4g, so if you divide X by 4, you can find how many teaspoons of sugar are in that food product. For example, a popular health bar contains 11g of sugar - so 11 divides by 4 is almost 3 teaspoons. That's nearly half the RDA for someone on a 1,600 calorie daily diet.

Syndrome X

As well as risking heart disease and obesity, many doctors are now warning of a new illness to strike those who over-indulge - Syndrome X.
Syndrome X - Metabolic Syndrome - is the name being given to a type of diabetes that affects young people who eat too much sugar.

It can lead to blindness, kidney disease and limb amputations and also causes heart disease and strokes but has few initial symptoms.

Researchers estimate that it affects about five million people in the UK, most of whom are unaware that anything is wrong.

But we can all do something about it, in my case I need to stop smoking, take 20 minutes exercise three times a week, and lose a couple of stone.
Learn more about Syndrome X - or type 2 diabetes - on the Diabetes UK website.

Tips
Don't add sugar to foods - an obvious one, but you'd be surprised what a difference it makes
Don't fall for "healthy sugars" - brown sugar, raw sugar.. it's all the same as far as your body is concerned

Beware the low-fat trap: just because a product says low-fat/healthy option/diet option/fat-free doesn't mean it's low in fat.. and your body will still store excess sugar as fat

Watch out for hidden sugars - learn the other names for sugar and read the label carefully
Add it up: divide the "total sugars" by 4 for the number of teaspoons of sugar in that product.

Then try to stick within the recommended daily amount.

Tillysmummy · 30/04/2002 11:18

v interesting. I knew about the low fat but packed with sugar thing but didn't realise you're only supposed to have 6 teaspoons a day for 1600 kcals a day ! What about if you are going to the gym , can't your intake be more because you burn more ?

pupuce · 30/04/2002 11:23

Tillysmummy - the point I think is for people to realise that they eat too much sugar (and far too much is often the case)... I use to eat loads and slowly started reducing it. I could not have drunk tea or coffee without sugar for years and now I won't touch a cup with it... you do get use to it, you even find it tastes better once you "unfamiliarise" yourself with sugar. It is not as hard as it sounds and it is much healthier.

Gracie · 30/04/2002 11:46

Pupuce, glad you have corrected the previous info that a lo-fat yogurt contains 16 tablespoons of sugar!!. I think it would be helpful to point out htat the quantities you are quoting are large. I can't imagine anyone (let alone a child) eating a 415g can of baked beans. My son would never eat more than around 100g at a meal. Also, I thought 1600cal a day and 6 tsp sugar are for women who are trying to lose weight. I thought the standard dietary guidelines for women were 2000 cal a day?.

pupuce · 30/04/2002 11:51

Gracie obvioulsy kids don't eat a whole can - at least I hope they don't
On tele he said 16 table spoons but on the site he wrote something else (16 gr not 16 tsp).... maybe the cameras confused him!!!

I found the whole thing interesting hence I thought I'd share it with everyone... don't know how many calories we are suppose to eat each day to be honest as I am lucky not to have a weight problem.... then again I eat very little sugar.

manna · 30/04/2002 13:12

this sugar stuff is interesting. My low carb diet works much better if I don't indulge in sugar instead (i.e. the odd pack of starburst as a treat because they've got no fat, only sugar - bd, bad, bad....). I skimmed the atkins diet (too mean to buy it) and it seems to say the same basically. It's all about upping the metabolic rate and slowing the release of sugars into the blood / glycomic index stuff etc. I'm going to be very strict about sugar from now on and see if it speeds up the weight loss - keep you posted!

pupuce · 30/04/2002 16:07

Manna - don't go too quickly off the sugar IMO as you will hate it and binge on it afterwards.. just curb it one day at a time !

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