Alcoholics or Dependant Drinkers Club

[Rhubarb]

For SoftStuff, tyedye and anyone else who wants to join.

The rules are that you HAVE to sign in every night to let us know TRUTHFULLY how much you have drunk. You need to let us know your triggers too. So if you resisted for 12 hours but then cracked and had a beer - what finally snapped?

We'll be here to give you encouragement, support, advice and opinions.

[tyedye]

I get hangovers with cider but an ordinary person would be bedridden after drinking the amount i can put away!What really scares me is the blackouts,i do things and i rarely remember!

[themoon66]

If I had hangovers and blackouts I think it would do me good and scare me into cutting down. I don't think anything would make me actually give up (apart from death, God forbid). When you say you say an ordinary person would be bedridden with the amount you drink - what do you actually drink in one night? I've never confessed the truth to anyone, but am prepared to do so on here if somebody else does the same

[butty]

tyedye,

i havn't seen anyone about my drinking, although my GP is aware of it as my mum let it slip,(on pupose) when i was dx'ed with chronic fatigue syndrome, and she was at the appointment with me.

With regards to cirrosis, my auntie died at 39 with this due to alcohilism, although hers was at extremes, where i mean 2-3 litres of vodka a day.

Yes the outcome of drinking does frighten me and i often stop and say to myself and everyone else who knows me and my drinking habits that i am going to give up due to my weight gain and health problems and nothing more importantly than me kids, but i just can't switch off the habit.

I don't even think in the back of my mind that i would really want to totally knock it on the head, as it is my only release.

Last year i gave up for 3 weeks and within that time i lost 12 1bs

But not even that spurred me to stay off the drink.

I dont drink at home, but i can't imagine going out and not drinking, i really think i should get a hobby???

Butty.xxx

[Ledodgyherring]

Can I join In? I drink about 3 bottles of wine per week ( a bottle per night each time so not spread out) sometimes four if I drink on fridays and saturdays. Although not a dependant drinker i've fallen into the habit lately of having wine to relax and or relieve boredom which I feel is a slippery slope to get into. I'm also trying to lose weight and am eating really well so I really need to cut down on my alcohol for this reason too as it's full of calories also the health implications of drinking so much are starting to worry me.

[tyedye]

6-8 cans of lager,bottle and a half of wine,more at the weekends.Recently added a half bottle of brandy.

[themoon66]

tyedye - is that 6 - 8 cans of lager a night or a week?

[tyedye]

Butty,try a martial art?exercise AND stress release,if i absorb myself in my hobbies,the need to drink decreases,unfortunately i cant do that until after the kids are in bed and i have usually fallen on my A off the wagon well before then!!!!

[tyedye]

A night.x

[themoon66]

OK - the truth. Monday - one bottle of cava. Tuesday - one bottle of cava or 3 to 4 cans of Stella. Wednesday 3 to 4 cans of Stella. Thursday - i grit my teeth and try not to drink, but usually end up with 2 cans of Stella. Friday - bottle of white wine and a couple of large Pernods. Saturday - lager with lunch, sherry while cooking dinner, bottle of white wine with dinner, couple of large Pernods. Sunday - bottle of cava.

Shit that looks soooo well bad. Am deeply ashamed of the cost if nothing else

[tyedye]

Hi dodgyherring,thats classed as binge drinking,but you know that,i want to try an alternate juice with wine.Also the water idea helps,if you are thirsty when you open the wine,you must drink it quicker!?

[themoon66]

And here's another confession.... I sometimes skip meals and drink instead if i'm in a panic about calories.

[tyedye]

Moony,the cost frightens me to the pit of my stomach quite apart from the health worry!I am soooo in debt.STUPID.At least you can admit the quantity too,well done!At morrisons recently the girl on the till asked me if i was having a party,it was just a mid-week topup shop.

[butty]

that probably would be a good idea, but my main hobby is singing, and a lot of it, which generally involves a good night out at karaoke and then paint the rest of the town red!!!

I drink way way too much, but however solemnly i try and want to stop, i can't, it is within my lifestyle, of which i would change if i could, but i get pleasure from the singing and also dancing later on, also having a banter with people.

i have been out and not drunk, but i despised it and everyone around me, for looking like they were enjoying themselves.

i do quite often get HO's, but i still go out and do it all again.

I really think i need help, not pitty, like my councillor always gives, but real help.

I get no help at home with the kids from SS, Health pro's or anyone really.

My life permanently gets on top of me and i hate it, but everyone always says " god, i don't know how you do it, you just get on with life and we admire you for that" if only they knew the truth, you see i feel it's easier to show a brave face and look like i'm coping, but really i ain't and thats when the drinking kicks off.

Butty.xxx

[Ledodgyherring]

Tyedye yes i do know it's binge drinking and I have got to cut down I want to only drink at the weekend. I had a baby in november and bf for 3 weeks so started drinking again at Christmas after 11 months of abstinence. I think i've associated my ds sleeping through and me getting more of my life back again to hurray now I can have a drink and i've gone a bit too far.

[Ledodgyherring]

I must also say that whats worrying me is starting the same pattern I fell into in 1998 after my mum died of drinking everyday at that time I could drink upto 2 bottles a night and looking back that scares the sh*te out of me!

[tyedye]

Moony,drinking takes over everything,not just eating!
Butty,people say that to me too,about coping,have you got a big family?kids that is,any support from your parents?
While we are confessing,i am breastfeeeding.

[themoon66]

tyedye - I've stopped buying it at Morrisons and am now a regular at Lidls coz its much cheaper and just as good. Especially the cava. I shouldnt perhaps have told you that - you'll be down there buying even more now - god, some mate I am!

[butty]

I have 2 children as i say one with ODD and the other with SN, my partner is an arse most of the time, and other than that, my family is very small, close nit, but very busy with work commitments etc....

Like you have said about being in debt, i am very much in debt, but still manage to squander roughly £80-£120 a week on nights out!!

I do pay my mortgage etc.., but old debts with large sums of money go out of the window!!!

I have a few close friends, but they are the ones i go out with all the time, but they also spend a lot of time going on days out with me and my kids, they adore my kids and are always their to lend a hand when they are not working, butmore often than not working in the day, so we make the most of our holidays which we all book off in unison.

Tyedye, have you spoken to anyone about BF whilst Drinking???

How about you, what help and support do you get from those nearest and dearset???

Butty.xxx

[tyedye]

Dont worry moony,never heard of lidz or whatever its called i avoid cash and carry for that very reason.I live miles from anywhere anyway.
Butty,never spoken about BF and booze,too ashamed.

[tyedye]

Butty,I get zero support.Every single person in my life is only concerned with their needs and what they "need" from me.
I have friends of course,but they are powerless at the end of the day.I have recently broken my relations with my mother as she is a manipulative self centered cow.

[butty]

tyedye,

don't feel ashamed, and even if you do, there is some desperately underlying reasons for why you drink like you do.

I would reccomend, which by the way sounds rich coming from me, that you maybe see someone about the BF whilst drinking, or more seriously, if you really can't stop drinking, then stop breastfeeding and go on to bottles.

Please don't take what i say, as an insult or hinderance, i just genuinely believe that you want to something about the drinking as i do, but don't know where to start or who to turn to.

Butty.xxx

[tyedye]

Just looked up SN,sorry,that must be a great strain for you.xxx

[tyedye]

I would go on to bottles-except that shes 2!!!!

[themoon66]

My DH enjoys a drink too, but he is nowhere near as bad as me. He usually manages to abstain during the weekdays. He is not really aware of how much I'm putting away as he works away a lot of the time. Sometimes, like just after xmas, we both agreed to try not to drink in the week and he was very supportive. We only managed a fortnight though.

I have alcoholics on both sides of my family - my dad's brother died of it and so did my mum's brother.

I should have more sense really as I work in mental health and see all the victims of alcohol.

[Ledodgyherring]

Part of my problem is my dh very rarely drinks. if he did I would happily have half a bottle of wine at a time!