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General election 2024

AIBU to be glad that Jeremy Corbyn won his seat?...

221 replies

Beeinalily · 05/07/2024 11:00

...even though I'm not remotely left wing? I think he was treated appallingly by the Labour Party.

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TheWayTheLightFalls · 05/07/2024 18:29

taps fingers, waits…

Gramsci · 05/07/2024 18:30

Jimblebells · 05/07/2024 18:28

No one wants war, hamas should give up the hostages and remains of hostages that they are keeping. Absolute vermin.
So many innocent civilians been killed and injured as a direct result of hamas actions, a godless wicked terrorist group that jc refererred to as friends once.

Silly Palestinians should just stop getting in the way of settlers taking their land. It’s just the nice thing to do, really.

Must have been frustrating when the slaves revolted in the US too, so can empathise with this.

Gramsci · 05/07/2024 18:31

TheWayTheLightFalls · 05/07/2024 18:29

taps fingers, waits…

6.8.4. Abuse from complainants
In 2019, half of all antisemitism complaints, and a third of all antisemitism cases, came from one individual.
This person’s complaints are typically poorly evidenced and submitted in a format that hinders investigation. This individual repeatedly emails about the same cases, cluttering the Complaints inbox and taking staff time, as staff always have to check whether a case already exists or not, and whether or not all the evidence the complainant is providing has already been logged.
A large proportion of the people this individual complains about are either not Party members or are already in the disciplinary process, something the complainant has been told repeatedly.
The complainant is often rude and abusive in their replies to staff responding to his complaints. The Party is also aware that the complainant uses similar language towards people, including Labour members, on social media."

http://whatnextjournal.org.uk/Pages/Politics/Labour_Report_Abuse.pdf

I always just swallow without criticism, whatever the media peddle.

http://whatnextjournal.org.uk/Pages/Politics/Labour_Report_Abuse.pdf

blackcherryconserve · 05/07/2024 18:39

It is enough for most Jewish people to see Corbyn standing with Hamas and other terrorist sympathisers to know he is antisemitic.

noblegiraffe · 05/07/2024 18:40

That's not from the EHRC report, @Gramsci

Gramsci · 05/07/2024 18:44

noblegiraffe · 05/07/2024 18:40

That's not from the EHRC report, @Gramsci

Where did I say it was?

Gramsci · 05/07/2024 18:46

blackcherryconserve · 05/07/2024 18:39

It is enough for most Jewish people to see Corbyn standing with Hamas and other terrorist sympathisers to know he is antisemitic.

https://x.com/jvoicelabour/status/1321823776720490498?s=46

No true Scotsman strikes again.

AIBU to be glad that Jeremy Corbyn won his seat?...
noblegiraffe · 05/07/2024 18:47

Gramsci · 05/07/2024 18:44

Where did I say it was?

Well there were 4 posts talking about the EHRC report before your post. I note that you did not say where your quote came from. I thought I would clarify.

noblegiraffe · 05/07/2024 18:47

😆 more references to Jewish Voice for Labour.

No clue.

Gramsci · 05/07/2024 18:47

noblegiraffe · 05/07/2024 18:47

Well there were 4 posts talking about the EHRC report before your post. I note that you did not say where your quote came from. I thought I would clarify.

Apologies. Comes from an internal draft report The Indy came across about the process in place dealing with the complaints.

VolvoFan · 05/07/2024 18:48

YABU. What's Palestine got to do with Britain?

noblegiraffe · 05/07/2024 18:51

Gramsci · 05/07/2024 18:47

Apologies. Comes from an internal draft report The Indy came across about the process in place dealing with the complaints.

The one where they marked their own homework, yes?

These are the findings of the EHRC

AIBU to be glad that Jeremy Corbyn won his seat?...
Gramsci · 05/07/2024 18:51

noblegiraffe · 05/07/2024 18:47

😆 more references to Jewish Voice for Labour.

No clue.

The wrong kind of Jew.

noblegiraffe · 05/07/2024 18:52

Gramsci · 05/07/2024 18:51

The wrong kind of Jew.

The ones who support antisemites.

Gramsci · 05/07/2024 18:54

noblegiraffe · 05/07/2024 18:51

The one where they marked their own homework, yes?

These are the findings of the EHRC

How events unfolded
10:00 GMT The EHRC releases its report saying Labour acted unlawfully over anti-Semitism
10:36 Jeremy Corbyn says there was an anti-Semitism problem in the party, but it was "dramatically overstated"
11:07 Sir Keir Starmer says those who think anti-Semitism is "exaggerated or a factional attack" are "part of the problem"
11:15 Sir Keir is repeatedly asked if he will expel Mr Corbyn for "exaggerated" comments - he says the report did not name individuals and repeats his previous statement
12:15 Mr Corbyn records an interview, to be released at 13:00, disagreeing with a number of the report's points and repeating that the number of anti-Semitism cases is "exaggerated"
13:06 Labour announces it has suspended Mr Corbyn

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54730425

Suspended for basically saying the problem wasn’t at the scale the well known right wing press said it was. Definitely not politically motivated. The purging of anyone not a Blairite is just a coincidence.

The anaemic voter participation in electing Labour last night is also unrelated.

Jeremy Corbyn

Labour suspends Jeremy Corbyn over reaction to anti-Semitism report

Sir Keir Starmer acts after his predecessor says the scale of the problem within the party has been "overstated".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54730425

Gramsci · 05/07/2024 18:54

noblegiraffe · 05/07/2024 18:52

The ones who support antisemites.

lol

Nothing more to add. Parodies itself.

Gramsci · 05/07/2024 18:57

@noblegiraffe

https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2017-11-09/ty-article/ukraine-nationalists-are-using-a-jew-to-whitewash-their-nazi-era-past/0000017f-e717-d97e-a37f-f777b9fe0000

It’s very funny you’re okay with this, but not Labour having a few mentalists raising hell for political gain.

noblegiraffe · 05/07/2024 19:00

Gramsci · 05/07/2024 18:54

lol

Nothing more to add. Parodies itself.

Have you seen their support for Ken Livingston, Chris Williamson, Jackie Walker etc? Where there's antisemitism, there's JVP saying that it's all fine.

noblegiraffe · 05/07/2024 19:01

Gramsci · 05/07/2024 18:57

@noblegiraffe

https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2017-11-09/ty-article/ukraine-nationalists-are-using-a-jew-to-whitewash-their-nazi-era-past/0000017f-e717-d97e-a37f-f777b9fe0000

It’s very funny you’re okay with this, but not Labour having a few mentalists raising hell for political gain.

Edited

Why are you putting words into my mouth?

Gramsci · 05/07/2024 19:03

noblegiraffe · 05/07/2024 19:01

Why are you putting words into my mouth?

You’re pretty supportive of Ukraine getting access to weapons and support, a nation with a rich history of anti-semitism and neo Nazi (look up Breivik) fuckers, and oh yeah, the most corrupt nation in Europe.

Let’s hope none of that has any blowback, eh? I’ll worry about the heavy arms with skinheads fighting Russia, you worry about the mayor who was a bit of a chucklefuck with his words.

Priorities!

noblegiraffe · 05/07/2024 19:05

We're talking about Jeremy Corbyn....

Startingagainandagain · 05/07/2024 19:07

He retained his seat because, like Diane Abbott, he deeply cares about his constituency and works to get the best for the people who live there and he has been doing so for years.

They are not the type of politicians I would vote for, but I completely understand why people support them.

Gramsci · 05/07/2024 19:08

noblegiraffe · 05/07/2024 19:05

We're talking about Jeremy Corbyn....

Yeah, on the topic of him being an independent.

Funny how the “muh antisemitism” people crawl out of the woodwork to rail against a man DEMOCRATICALLY elected as if he was some monster.

Still kinda more worried about Azov telling Zelenskyy to piss off back in 2019, though.

noblegiraffe · 05/07/2024 19:13

Gramsci · 05/07/2024 19:08

Yeah, on the topic of him being an independent.

Funny how the “muh antisemitism” people crawl out of the woodwork to rail against a man DEMOCRATICALLY elected as if he was some monster.

Still kinda more worried about Azov telling Zelenskyy to piss off back in 2019, though.

I understand why you're trying to distract from the antisemitism report into Labour which shows there was a problem, unlike the one you quoted, and the antisemitism support of the group you have been trying to use to back you up.

Muthaofcats · 05/07/2024 19:22

Gramsci · 05/07/2024 18:22

The one that found not even 0.1% of the party had complaints against it? The one that Corbyn got suspended for saying it was massively overblown and was also correct in that assessment?

And they say propaganda doesn’t work anymore, I tells ya.

Babes, are you reading the same thing?

wild that you’re calling the report of the EHRC ‘propoganda’. I mean, wtf? Are you ok ?