The Result

[RedToothBrush]

Exit poll in 5 mins.

Pull up a chair.

FFS, you'd think they'd practise constituency names before election night. They're all butchering Houghton and Sunderland South. It's Hoe-tn not Howton or Hooton! Thank god for Chris Mason.

coming to join in. not got access to a TV tonight so I'm on 2 threads on MN :)
Hoping to Celebrate Tory Wipeout (even if that nasty Mr Farage does well)

Things better improve in a concrete way and they have 5 years to do it.

So they've won a larger % of the vote than the last government and more seats and you are already deriding them?

This is an electoral disaster for the Tories.

The more likely thing to happen in 5 years is reform will lose support once their incompetence is exposed.

@TarantinoIsAMisogynist in deprived areas it's fairly obvious? Why the need to talk to people about rubbish school, lack of jobs and hopes and aspirations?

Sorry maybe you arnt but I'm imagining some posh Labour Londoner aksing someone clearly living in dire straights in a scary run down area why they voted reform!!

The more likely thing to happen in 5 years is reform will lose support once their incompetence is exposed.

I really hope you're right.

What we don't know is the number of Labour voters who just didn't vote because they thought they were safe. It can't be assumed that they would stay home if they thought Labour was at risk.

Look at the quality of their candidates.

It all points to a very short period in government for Labour as even in the current favourable climate from their perspective they have not been able to attract hardly any additional support
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He could lose his seat, no loss there then.

Pretty scared about how well Reform are doing...
Just hope a Reformative party not in the process of being created 😟

Oh, I know! But still, lots of people voted for them. I don't get it.

The more likely thing to happen in 5 years is reform Labour will lose support once their incompetence is exposed.

Corrected for you.

No he didn't.

Aladin I think it's more likely over 5 years the quality of their candidates will improve! That dress guy was on TV just now saying the election was called and they had to rush 600 plus people out..

The share of the vote stuff is rubbish though too.

Both May and Corbyn won far larger shares of the vote than many other governments have managed.

Reform MPs may indeed be useless but that vote shows strength of feeling. It'll not shift to Labour, only back to Tory.

We haven't had the outcome yet.

It seems like anything other than an uncomplicated "Yay, I'm so happy! Labour did amazingly!" is getting characterised as tory sour grapes.

I have never voted tory in my life - always for either Labour or Green. This time I voted Labour tactically. So there are no sour grapes here, but I do think that it is important to critically analyse the results to try to understand what they are telling us.

And I can guarantee that all the parties will be doing similar analysis. It is not as simple as saying "Great, we've won the seat, nothing more to think about!" Any party that rests on its laurels in that way will ultimately fail.

History (Brexit!) has shown us that politicians do not need to win large numbers of seats to exercise high levels of influence. So yes, I care about how the vote is split and what that might mean.

"Corrected for you"

The arrogance of that, smarting a bit at your major defeat?

I doubt anyone will forget the incompetence, lies and sheer negligence of the Tories in the last 14 years.

This is a major victory and one which will be hard to reverse in 5 years time.

That’s very silly. (Unless it’s tongue in cheek.) Having some Labour no-mark - which many will be, just like all landslide wins, when dross candidates get unexpectedly elected - as your MP won’t affect you.

I do think Labour will get a second term, but that will be largely because the Tories will need longer to resemble a competent party. Labour’s foolish promises and social policy fixations will sink them in the longer term. An economic upturn, which would be out of their hands, would do Labour a lot of good though.

Peter Mandelson voice of reason.

My constituency and I’d be gutted. Emma Hardy has been a good, solid, hard working local MP, who grew up and still lives here. Used to be Alan Johnson’s patch. But the boundary changes mix up some of the poorest areas of Hull (Hessle Road, historically associated with the decimated fishing industry), with the leafy villages in the Tory East Riding (Kirk Ella, Anlaby, Willerby). There’s been muttering about the posh and poor areas having very little in common apart from geography. But it sounds like both areas are turning to Reform showing the appeal to different sectors of the population.

I don’t even recall the name of the Reform candidate on the paper, most people in my suburb assumed Emma would get back in, shows what a bubble I move in.

Sunderland Central, another massive swing to Reform.