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General election 2024

My students voted overwhelmingly for Reform

224 replies

Regulus · 03/07/2024 22:19

When we had the Brexit vote they also voted for Brexit- large academy 9-18- Southern England

If anything I would say the school promoted Labour

So that is our poll prediction, although certainly not what I hope for.

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rumnraisins · 04/07/2024 09:59

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Perhaps you need to read up on:

  1. the origin of the words slave and Slav
  2. the Roman slave trade
  3. the trans Saharan slave trade and the mass castration of African men
  4. the Ottoman slave trade (hence why a certain % of Middle Eastern people today still have Slavic DNA)
  5. the African slave trade and how it aided the trans Atlantic slave trade
  6. the slave raids by Native Americans
  7. all the slave trade still going on today
BIossomtoes · 04/07/2024 10:00

VoteOutToHelpOut · 04/07/2024 09:49

What a fucking vile thing to say.

Yup.

BIossomtoes · 04/07/2024 10:03

Hummingbird75 · 04/07/2024 09:56

What???

Angela Rayner is hard left and was under Jeremy Corbyn for years.

Stop lying.

I’m not lying. Although some people have lied quite comprehensively about the past on several threads recently, haven’t they Hummingbird?

Chersfrozenface · 04/07/2024 10:03

CinnamonCuirass · 04/07/2024 09:46

Well there’s your average Reform voter folks. Such a warped view of history they seriously think Britain abolished slavery. Funny that it’s still going on today though aye?

Denmark was the first country to issue a decree in 1782 to abolish its transatlantic slave trade from the start of 1803 but it did not abolish slavery in the Danish West Indies until 1848.

The British Slave Trade Act was passed in 1807, making the slave trade illegal throughout the British Empire and the abolition of slavery itself throughout the British Empire was completed by 1838 (so before the Danes).

User135644 · 04/07/2024 10:04

ageratum1 · 04/07/2024 09:41

What a patronising thing to say.wht do you think k the Reform manifesto does not chime with them?

The manifesto probably does chime with them. The problem with it it's fantasy politics as they know they won't be in government to implement them.

User135644 · 04/07/2024 10:07

Hummingbird75 · 04/07/2024 09:56

What???

Angela Rayner is hard left and was under Jeremy Corbyn for years.

Stop lying.

And Corbyn was kicked out the party and undermined at every turn. Labour is pretty centrist as an organisation. The party machine viscerally hate the left. It was the members who voted Rayner as deputy, the cabinet are otherwise pretty much all moderate/centrists.

To be fair Corbyn's manifesto also veered towards fantasy but for left wing causes. Reform is fantasy but for right wing causes.

Regulus · 04/07/2024 10:19

CinnamonCuirass · 04/07/2024 08:29

If that’s the case, and I’m not saying I don’t believe you these are bleak times, you need to report your students to PREVENT and let them know about the extremism that they are likely to be involving themselves with.

For voting for a UK legal party?

Leftist democracy in actions.

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Regulus · 04/07/2024 10:25

CinnamonCuirass · 04/07/2024 09:34

Don’t believe that one bit. If you know your history you know that during the Colonial period Britain (England) invented a well known phenomenon called slavery, nothing else anyone has ever done comes close to that scale. Also, if you ask minorities they will tell you about all the attacks that get DAILY from people of this country. You can’t just produce some weird data that doesn’t mean anything in order to disprove what people see with their own eyes.

I'm this is completely rubbish. Slavery was not invented during the Colonial Period.

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anunlikelyseahorse · 04/07/2024 10:38

All reform have done is split the Tory vote. I really wouldn't worry, I think it's pretty obvious Labour will win this election. I just hope they can really sort things out, and will be very disappointed if they don't get to grips with education, health and social welfare...particularly for disabled people who have to jump through unbelievable hoops, just so they can survive.

greenpolarbear · 04/07/2024 10:43

Workbabysleeprepeat · 04/07/2024 09:50

Hi op the final polls are saying the same. They are expecting a swing for Reform. The young people I work with have all voted reform this morning (7 of them between 20-30). They have said it is because they don’t want labour or conservatives. It’s a protest vote as far as I can tell.

Do you really expect anyone to believe that trolling? Only bitter and stupid men over 40 are voting Reform, and even then not many of them 😂

noblegiraffe · 04/07/2024 10:50

ageratum1 · 04/07/2024 09:41

What a patronising thing to say.wht do you think k the Reform manifesto does not chime with them?

Because I know teens and I’m very sure that they haven’t read it but they have seen the funny Farage TikToks like the one where he is deep faked as Neo from the Matrix fighting Agent Smith Starmer, or the Minecraft ones where they are blowing up each others builds.

Trinity65 · 04/07/2024 10:51

What business does school have promoting anything ?

Are you not there to teach?

captureitrememberit · 04/07/2024 10:54

Reform attracts all the young people- particularly teenage boys who are too young to actually vote but want to appear cool! Sensationalist views appeal to them- take Andrew Tate as an example. We really are raising a generation full of misogynists!

nomoretoriesforme · 04/07/2024 10:58

@CinnamonCuirass You are dangerous and need to referred , not the people who are voting for a legitimate party.

peachescariad · 04/07/2024 11:00

My secondary school 11 - 16; although the year 11s have now left, have also just done a mock election during tutor time: Interesting!

Reform 31%
Lab 22%
Con 19%
Lib dems 18%
Greens 7%
IDK 3%

Tontostitis · 04/07/2024 11:02

Honestly school need to stop shoving their chosen political party at students it's wrong and deserves a backlash.

BumBumCream · 04/07/2024 11:02

My private all girls school in 1997 voted overwhelming for the Tories 😆

Compash · 04/07/2024 11:03

Kids just wanna be edgelords... 😑

Regulus · 04/07/2024 11:20

anunlikelyseahorse · 04/07/2024 10:38

All reform have done is split the Tory vote. I really wouldn't worry, I think it's pretty obvious Labour will win this election. I just hope they can really sort things out, and will be very disappointed if they don't get to grips with education, health and social welfare...particularly for disabled people who have to jump through unbelievable hoops, just so they can survive.

Seriously, have you seen what is going on in Wales?

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1dayatatime · 04/07/2024 11:43

@cupcaske123

"That's sad. So nothing in their manifesto that appeals, just the best of a bad bunch"

The quote I heard was that "choosing who to vote at this election is like choosing which toilet to use on the last day of Glastonbury "

Trinity65 · 04/07/2024 11:46

BumBumCream · 04/07/2024 11:02

My private all girls school in 1997 voted overwhelming for the Tories 😆

No surprise there

Melisha · 04/07/2024 12:19

Lots of people are politically illiterate and vote for who they would like to have a pint down the pub with. I am assuming OP your students did not know one Reform candidate described autistic people as vegetables. I think if they did, they would have a different viewpoint.

Melisha · 04/07/2024 12:20

A Reform candidate has suspended her campaign and defected to the Tories, saying the "vast majority" of others standing for Nigel Farage's party are "racist, misogynistic, and bigoted".
Georgie David, who was the candidate for West Ham and Beckton, is the second person to jump ship amid allegations of racism within the ranks of Reform UK.

And then there's this:
Reform UK candidate described autistic people as ‘vegetables’
Darren Ingrouille, the party’s prospective MP for Chelmsford, made the jibe on social media..

EasternStandard · 04/07/2024 12:22

BumBumCream · 04/07/2024 11:02

My private all girls school in 1997 voted overwhelming for the Tories 😆

I just asked a private student after reading this thread as hadn’t heard of mock elections and was intrigued

Top Lib Dem, Labour then Greens, Cons and Reform last

It’d be interesting to know generally how this falls

AbraAbraCadabra · 04/07/2024 12:26

1dayatatime · 04/07/2024 08:10

@AbraAbraCadabra

"How fucking depressing. And labour are apparently going to give 16 year olds the vote (a number of parties have it in their manifesto). This demonstrates exactly why that's a terrible fucking idea. 16 year olds can be very opinionated but don't know their arse from their elbow (I know, I was one - and teens are much more childlike now than they were when I was 16))."

Although 16 year olds are legally allowed to have sex, pay taxes, join the military, take exams etc, I think they should need parental approval on which party they vote for and only then if the party their parents approve of is on the left.

My comment was referring to the fact that teens were taking their voting preferences from TikTok.

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