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General election 2024

Everyone at work voting Reform

226 replies

WinkyTinky · 01/07/2024 14:12

People can vote for whichever party they want to vote for, but I feel pretty disheartened at the amount of Reform voters I work with. They think it's funny, and that Farage has all the answers for them. They don't try to hide their racism, and even seem proud of it. I know they are trying to wind me up, but I just try to keep quiet in the corner as I know they all see me as a woke leftie. Having been excited to see the back of the Tories for at least a good few years, I'm just feeling deflated at the views of people I spend most of my time with. They're even talking about Kylian Mbappe's stance on the French elections now, with the usual "stick to the football" comment. Not sure what I want from this thread, just expressing my worries.

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CatsBreath · 02/07/2024 10:49

People will tell you what they want to hear , to fit in and make their lives easier . In one workplace everyone seemed to be voting labour . I voted conservative but didn't let on .

Livelovebehappy · 02/07/2024 11:30

I think it depends who you work for. I find if you work in a professional skilled environment, people just don’t discuss who they vote for. I’ve no idea who my colleagues are voting for, and some of them I’m friends with and go out to lunch with them. Surely it’s private? And I just never discuss politics with anyone other than my dh, as it’s a recipe for a falling out if you disagree. But people in unskilled or low skilled jobs will generally discuss who they vote for. That’s how it seems to work out.

CatsBreath · 02/07/2024 11:32

Livelovebehappy · 02/07/2024 11:30

I think it depends who you work for. I find if you work in a professional skilled environment, people just don’t discuss who they vote for. I’ve no idea who my colleagues are voting for, and some of them I’m friends with and go out to lunch with them. Surely it’s private? And I just never discuss politics with anyone other than my dh, as it’s a recipe for a falling out if you disagree. But people in unskilled or low skilled jobs will generally discuss who they vote for. That’s how it seems to work out.

I think it's best to say nothing . Or if asked say I'm undecided or I just didn't bother . I think some people at work use these discussions as a way of undermining people .

User135644 · 02/07/2024 11:40

WinkyTinky · 01/07/2024 14:26

I do feel depressed @ArseInTheCoOpWindow Mostly I get on really well with them, but underneath this is who they are and I can't help but not like it. I'd love a sense of unity at election time but I don't get that at work or at home. I must be doing something wrong!

@RosaRoja Yep, they're still happy with their Brexit votes.... I am in the first-announced Brexit City, so it's not surprising really.

That's the thing though. Reform is the same fruitless protest vote for people in the left behind areas as Brexit was.

Voting for the man who is far to the Right of every Tory PM post Thatcher and who thought Truss's budget was brilliant is really not going to fill the void in their town. Or their lives. If they had a hope of winning it would further wreck the economy, though.

The same people who were charmed by Boris as well.

verdantverdure · 02/07/2024 13:16

Nobody at work's got a mortgage or a pension fund then @WinkyTinky?

Everyone at work voting Reform
WinkyTinky · 02/07/2024 14:10

@verdantverdure They honestly don't care about anything like this. They've seen him on that jungle programme, think he's a laugh, and rejoice in the jokey (or otherwise) bigotry and racism within the party (private company) as he's "just saying what everybody thinks."

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WinkyTinky · 02/07/2024 14:11

The same people who were charmed by Boris as well.

Exactly so @User135644

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hamstersarse · 02/07/2024 14:12

Liz Truss tried to implement a low tax, high growth economy but the unelected quangos and the city blocked it, sabotaged it and crashed the economy because they didn’t like it

whether you support Truss’s policies or not, you should be very concerned that UNELECTED bureaucrats put the brakes on an elected politicians plans.

schloss · 02/07/2024 14:34

hamstersarse · 02/07/2024 14:12

Liz Truss tried to implement a low tax, high growth economy but the unelected quangos and the city blocked it, sabotaged it and crashed the economy because they didn’t like it

whether you support Truss’s policies or not, you should be very concerned that UNELECTED bureaucrats put the brakes on an elected politicians plans.

The Tories had an open goal given to them which was to reduce corporation tax to make the UK suitable for business investment - this would have created growth and jobs. More people in employment would be a lower benefit bill and a higher tax take. What did they do - increase corporation tax rates all to appease other nations who are pushing a uniform corporation rate so no country gains an advantage. Sadly the party, having lost its conservative values, chose to do the opposite.

cupcaske123 · 02/07/2024 14:35

hamstersarse · 02/07/2024 14:12

Liz Truss tried to implement a low tax, high growth economy but the unelected quangos and the city blocked it, sabotaged it and crashed the economy because they didn’t like it

whether you support Truss’s policies or not, you should be very concerned that UNELECTED bureaucrats put the brakes on an elected politicians plans.

Liz Truss - what a shit show.

MalcolmTuckersSwearBox · 02/07/2024 14:37

Quangos.

Reform buzzword of the month.

Easipeelerie · 02/07/2024 14:41

hamstersarse · 01/07/2024 14:56

What is it exactly that offends you so much about Reform?

Which of their policies makes you angry?

Don’t be disingenuous. You know why she’s concerned, whether you share her views or not.

Jaxhog · 02/07/2024 14:43

This is the reason I keep my voting intentions to myself. I'm sick of being told that I must vote for this or that, and that I would crazy/an idiot/mean/ etc to do anything else.

It's truly sad that we can't have a open minded debate anymore.

Dogslipstick · 02/07/2024 14:44

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Barbadossunset · 02/07/2024 15:02

If my partner voted Reform I would leave him, as he would not be the person I've known for 20 years.

@SnapdragonToadflax would you also leave your partner if he voted communist like a pp says she is doing?

Teamind · 02/07/2024 15:18

Kianai · 02/07/2024 06:28

I fall into this group perhaps. I have already postal voted for Reform, and I am an immigrant.

Mainly in protest at the unchecked importation of ideologies and attitudes that are the reason I fled my country in the first place.

Yes, there are bad men, rapists and murderers in every race and religion. But I do not think western women can comprehend the scale of barbarity in some countries towards women. Hundreds of men gang raping, torturing and tearing women apart. Infront of each other with no shame or guilt.

I escaped to give my daughter a better life. Now the men I ran from are gathered in a huge group at the corner of her school and I feel the same old terror again every day.

And no one else is talking about it. I have been called a coconut and an idiot for even trying to open the discussion. As far as I see, Reform are a half baked notion of a party, but it represents a way for me to get the conversation intoI to the mainstream.

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I'm really sorry you experienced that. Ive read every post and yours just stopped me in my tracks. Do you mind me asking what country it was?

Anonym00se · 02/07/2024 15:26

hamstersarse · 02/07/2024 14:12

Liz Truss tried to implement a low tax, high growth economy but the unelected quangos and the city blocked it, sabotaged it and crashed the economy because they didn’t like it

whether you support Truss’s policies or not, you should be very concerned that UNELECTED bureaucrats put the brakes on an elected politicians plans.

UNELECTED. Like Farage was unelected as the leader of Reform?

Teamind · 02/07/2024 15:28

Anonym00se · 02/07/2024 15:26

UNELECTED. Like Farage was unelected as the leader of Reform?

That analogy doesn't make sense.... Farage was a shareholder in reform and then the party decided to make him leader. That pp wasn't talking about liz truss being the unelected one....

Anonym00se · 02/07/2024 15:42

Teamind · 02/07/2024 15:28

That analogy doesn't make sense.... Farage was a shareholder in reform and then the party decided to make him leader. That pp wasn't talking about liz truss being the unelected one....

I just think it’s extremely ironic that Farage has spent decades bleating about “unelected bureaucrats” in the EU, and then made himself the leader of his party/company without any internal election. Every other party leader would be elected by its members in a democratic vote.

Easipeelerie · 02/07/2024 15:49

I think I’d have to move jobs. It would g be too distressing to spend my day around people like this.

LadyCrumpet · 02/07/2024 16:42

wevegotarightonehere · 01/07/2024 15:45

Left leaning people who are intolerant of other people's views: what is it about the intolerant right you don't like?

Absolutely this.

Farting · 02/07/2024 17:19

Franzkafkascat · 01/07/2024 22:48

What ? Spontaneous combustion ? Soviet flag above Buckingham palace ? Royal family rounded up and banished to exile ?

No just more tax, more men in drag in women’s spaces, more brainwashing of junior school children that they are really the opposite sex in the wrong body, and more boat men to be paid for by even more taxes.

schloss · 02/07/2024 17:21

Easipeelerie · 02/07/2024 15:49

I think I’d have to move jobs. It would g be too distressing to spend my day around people like this.

I think that is a bit OTT - is part of job interviews now the candidate asking the political views of those they will share an office with?

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 02/07/2024 17:34

schloss · 02/07/2024 17:21

I think that is a bit OTT - is part of job interviews now the candidate asking the political views of those they will share an office with?

I’d be off like lightening.

Why would l want to hang around with racist mysoginists?

Franzkafkascat · 02/07/2024 18:28

Farting · 02/07/2024 17:19

No just more tax, more men in drag in women’s spaces, more brainwashing of junior school children that they are really the opposite sex in the wrong body, and more boat men to be paid for by even more taxes.

Erm that’s reality already. We’ve got all those things now.
High taxes (highest in 70 years)
men in drag in women’s spaces
gender ideology in schools
700,000 migrants

So what will be different if the Tories win ? They’ve already done it 😂
You’ve forgotten that you’ve had 14 years to change these things and haven’t done.

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