Why aren't Reform voters ashamed?

[TheShellBeach]

They don't seem to care that everyone will know they're racists.

It seems incredible to me that people are open about voting for them.

Googling racist Reform candidates brings up the story, it's been covered by everyone. Here is the first article that came up on my search:

https://news.sky.com/story/reform-uk-drops-three-candidates-as-racism-row-constinues-to-engulf-party-13160889

I'm not convinced of that.
I feel that they're being very careful about what they say in public.

"... but all racists vote for them."

Really? What about all those Labour supporters who really, really, want to end the lives of all Jewish people? (You may have come across the phrase "...from the river to the sea"?)

Or the Green Party candidates who have openly supported the ending of Jewish lives?

That all comes across as very racist to me.

Reform dropped 3 candidates because they were racist. Hardly the actions of a party that is inherently racist

By the same logic - why aren't Conservative voters ashamed? - Dozens of migrants have died falling into the sea 'cos nothing's been done to stop them coming over here.

Why aren't Labour voters ashamed? - Dozens of migrants have died falling off the underneath of lorries when they were in power.

Both parties had plenty of opportunities to stop this decades ago, but neither party seems willing to.

Why can't you accept that millions are fed up with the staus quo, the endless cycle of Tory/Labour, neither of whom are meeting their needs. They are crying out for change, sick of not being heard, sick of having the standard rhetoric rammed down their throats, over and over and when they revolt against it are smeared as being sexist/ racist/misogynistic/thick. The rise of parties such as Reform are feeding into that need and the sooner the mainstream parties recognise that, the better off we'll all be.

A lot of those voting Reform are protesting against the status quo because there is no other way of making their own personal protest

I don't think those people are voting Labour, who have taken a pro-Israel stance when it comes to the current conflict in the Middle East.

You don’t have to be, you have your own mind. Just stop pushing your beliefs onto others and belittling people who’s beliefs don’t align with yours

I totally accept that people are unhappy with the status quo. I still find the violent racism of numerous Reform candidates and activists upsetting and I'm very afraid that a world in which Farage's Reform have power and influence would make most people's lives a lot worse.

And for what it's worth, I live in a constituency that's been Tory from year dot. I'm working the election so have had to do a postal vote and have voted Independent. Not that I should have to tell you that, but i respect everyone's right to vote how they feel fit

But to have three racist candidates exposed, four days before the election, seems (to quote Lady Bracknell) like carelessness.

In other words, Reform don't do any due diligence. Or even if they do - they don't care.

OK, yes I agree, a fair point in some northern constituencies, but not so much in London constituencies though.

I think if you name any political party it won't take long to find someone associated with that party who has said something arguably racist, misogynistic or homophobic.

Yes, m'am.

Oh, I did that years ago.

I’ll believe it when I see it…

But why were those candidates standing for Reform in the first place? What drew people with those racist views to Reform? How is it that three of them are discovered just a few days before the election? Do we really think they are three random anomalies? And the two just recently who got dropped for their links to the BNP - Grant St Armstrong and Raymond Saint? Why were they in Reform? Are they the only ones? Why are none of the other parties having to drop multiple candidates at this stage for racism? Why were they all standing for Reform?

Maybe it would and maybe it wouldn't, but my point is everyone has the right to vote for whomsoever they please and should not face a barrage of abuse for doing so just because you disagree with their choice

So you think it’s okay to belittle someone because they are voting reform?

Can you find the same proportion of people in the other parties who have openly stated that black people are lazy/savage/scum just this week?

No, I think it's okay to say that a lot of them are racists.

I haven't inflicted a barrage of abuse at anyone. I've just pointed out the racist things that people in Reform have said.

Yep, and a lot of labour supporters are anti-semites and misogynists. Whatever are we to do?!

I loathe Rishi Sunak with every fibre of my being and there's plenty names I'd call l him but "fucking p*". Holy shite, that's lower than Rishi himself. Reform have proven themselves worse than the tories, waaaay worse.

And just out of interest, does your quite rightful denunciation of racism include the anti semitic rhetoric proven within the Labour Party?