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General election 2024

Voting if you’re classed as high earning

240 replies

time2changeCharlieBrown · 18/06/2024 12:17

just wondering if you earn high or wealthy who will you vote for?
I’m not wealthy but we both do have a higher than average income, however 7 dependents and a large mortgage takes everything!! So on paper we may look it
but realistically we budget for everything

anyway we live in a wealthy area with a lot of rich people (a lot lot better off than us, as far as I can tell anyway )
and they all said not voting labour as would be bad for them and all now detest the tories so all going Lib Dem or reform they keep asking me but I said I don’t know and I still don’t

got to say I’m not as clued up on politics as them and I struggle with understanding it all and what to believe
(maybe none) any one help me get a better understanding, everything I read I find overwhelming

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Nesbi · 18/06/2024 12:22

Labour. My voting isn’t based solely on self interest (ie costing me more), unless that self interest aLeo extends to not wanting to live in a country being ruined by successive Conservative governments.

BeRealOrca · 18/06/2024 12:23

What classes as high earners nowadays? I'm in the 40% bracket but I wouldn't class myself as a high earner. Tax Brackets have not reflected wage increases or inflation since they were frozen.

Anywhoo, I have always been a staunch labour supporter, but honestly, Labour's manifesto is so underwhelming I'm not so sure. I live in a very Blue area and im considering voting Reform as a tactical vote.

Icanwalkintheroom · 18/06/2024 12:25

Labour. I have the money to cushion me - I ought to make choices that are best for those who don’t.

MrsSkylerWhite · 18/06/2024 12:26

Labour. We’re very comfortable and voting Tory would probably benefit us. Hell would freeze over before that happened because we care about other people.

cuckyplunt · 18/06/2024 12:26

Icanwalkintheroom · 18/06/2024 12:25

Labour. I have the money to cushion me - I ought to make choices that are best for those who don’t.

Couldn’t have said it better myself.

time2changeCharlieBrown · 18/06/2024 12:27

BeRealOrca · 18/06/2024 12:23

What classes as high earners nowadays? I'm in the 40% bracket but I wouldn't class myself as a high earner. Tax Brackets have not reflected wage increases or inflation since they were frozen.

Anywhoo, I have always been a staunch labour supporter, but honestly, Labour's manifesto is so underwhelming I'm not so sure. I live in a very Blue area and im considering voting Reform as a tactical vote.

Same! We’re in the 40percent too but wouldn’t class us as high but apparently we are! Doesn’t feel like it! Not sure we could survive without making major changes, if taxes were put up anymore

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TheYoungestSibling · 18/06/2024 12:27

I value public services so am keen to vote in accordance with manifesto statements that support public services.

I also value women's rights and want to vote for a candidate that shares my thinking in this issue.

These two statements appear to be mutually exclusive at the moment. It's a problem for me.

SlipperyLizard · 18/06/2024 12:27

Labour probably (my local candidate is, as far as I can tell, a supporter of women’s rights) although I’m worried about splitting the anti-Tory vote as my constituency has been redrawn.

My vote has never been a question of “what’s best for me personally?” because I’m not a selfish arsehole and I’d like my kids to have decent schools, libraries, leisure facilities and an NHS that we can all rely on. 14 years of Tory rule has destroyed so much, and left us all paying more tax!

BaselineDrop · 18/06/2024 12:28

Probably Labour. It’s just time for a change. Our money is all wages, so an increase in CGT won’t affect us and I don’t think they will increase tax on earned income enough to affect us.
I am concerned about women’s rights but I don’t trust anyone except the Tories with that right now and I can’t vote for them
again.

BlowDryRat · 18/06/2024 12:29

Labour. I don't like them but my local Labour MP is gender critical so I'll suck it up. I can't in good conscience vote for another Conservative government to strip vital public services to the bone.

time2changeCharlieBrown · 18/06/2024 12:30

I agree it’s definitely time for a Chang and so many things need to change dramatically one thing I know is I’ll never vote conservative
but still undecided and worried about it

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BIWI · 18/06/2024 12:31

@time2changeCharlieBrown

Well, going by your username you should be voting Labour!

got to say I’m not as clued up on politics as them and I struggle with understanding it all and what to believe

Probably time to start reading a (good) daily paper then, or listening to some politics podcasts.

You could also start by reading the different manifestos.

Blahblah34 · 18/06/2024 12:32

I'm voting lib dem as rejoining the EU in some form is our only hope for economic recovery and they are the only party with that as a manifesto pledge

Hoppinggreen · 18/06/2024 12:32

We are high earners, especially for our area. We have our own Business and DC at Private school and might be considered natural Conservative voters (I was a Young Con at Uni).
I am not sure who I will vote for yet, certainly NOT Tory as we are very anti Brexit (despite actually making money from it) and are horrifed at some of their policies and the general state of The Party, not to mention the mess they have caused over the last 14 years.
Unfortunately I know the local Labour candidate and dislike him personally, he is also a staunch Corbinite so I don't want to vote for him.
I don't know the Lib candidate but its very much a 2 horse race here and also she is not local and has been parachuted in so I am not minded to vote for her either
I may not bother but I don't think its a great example to set for my DC so I may pretend to or vote for one of the more fringe parties (not Reform)

WellExactly2 · 18/06/2024 12:32

We have £180k approx household income, and will be both voting Labour

TheOneWithUnagi · 18/06/2024 12:34

2x 6 figure earners and we will vote Lib Dem. Only Lib Dem can beat conservative round here and I'm a centrist liberal at heart. We are your typical Tory voter on paper and have voted that way in the past but never again after brexit and the chaos of the last few years.

Nesbi · 18/06/2024 12:34

Given the economic incompetence of the Conservative Party (thanks for the Liz Truss debacle guys) I think I’d be less worried about potential tax rises and more worried about the next Tory clusterfuck to cost us all billions if they were allowed to remain anywhere near the reins of government.

GingerKombucha · 18/06/2024 12:38

Earn about £500k between us and have basically opted out of most public services (don't use state education or the NHS) but am voting labour as 1. I trust them more with public services and care about everyone who has to use them and 2. They're talking all the right things about growing the economy that is the only way out of the mess we're in as a country.

Slumberella · 18/06/2024 12:43

I live in Scotland. I pay more tax than similar "high" earners in England, as i expect do all of my friends and neighbours. . I do not begrudge it and am OK with what I get back in return. I've never met a real life person who has moaned about our even higher tax! I'd pay more if I saw it was worth it.

I'm currently undecided who to vote for but I can say, for certain, that it will not be Conservative or Reform or LD. I'm a life long labour supporter but the labour response to the gender ideology debate in Scotland was lukewarm wishy washy nonsense. So I may defect to another party. Where I live it's SNP leaning anyway and probably safe for them.

Palagiprincess · 18/06/2024 12:44

Having read the manifestos, I'm still undecided.

marciaa · 18/06/2024 12:44

I can't vote Labour or Lib Dems due to their treatment of women and children. It's going to be Reform for me.

JellyComb · 18/06/2024 12:48

High earners. We are all voting Reform.

OhPollex · 18/06/2024 12:48

DP will be voting Conservative because of their stance on investment in UK R&D, particularly in life sciences. While the three major parties have all committed to delivering the Tory's Advanced Manufacturing Plan, Conservatives seem the most committed to actually following through with investment options. Labour has said nothing about financial plans for R&D, just some vague stuff about introducing 10-year cycles 🤔

I'm not too sure. Conservatives look to be the strongest on women's rights which is my priority. But its a weak pool to choose from and I'm conscious of the irony that the whole shitshow around women's rights has happened under Conservative rule in the first place. So I don't know. I definitely won't be voting Labour.

mitogoshi · 18/06/2024 12:50

Labour here. Was a safe Tory seat but they are pre dictating a labour win

macshoto · 18/06/2024 12:51

Probably Lib Dem - mainly because Labour are guaranteed to win my seat (>50% Labour majority predicted) so I might as well help the Lib Dem candidate retain their deposit...

While one of the Brexit supporting right wing parties might promise lower taxes, they have made the country much poorer. We need some stability and more focus on what's good for the country as a whole than on what's good for the political party in power.

In some respects I hope Labour get an enormous majority and are then comfortable enough to introduce proportional representation because even they recognise that the current FPTP system has not resulted in parliaments that have worked in the interests of the nation as a whole. Possibly a forlorn hope - but that's more likely than the Lib Dem's forming a government!