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General election 2024

Voting if you’re classed as high earning

240 replies

time2changeCharlieBrown · 18/06/2024 12:17

just wondering if you earn high or wealthy who will you vote for?
I’m not wealthy but we both do have a higher than average income, however 7 dependents and a large mortgage takes everything!! So on paper we may look it
but realistically we budget for everything

anyway we live in a wealthy area with a lot of rich people (a lot lot better off than us, as far as I can tell anyway )
and they all said not voting labour as would be bad for them and all now detest the tories so all going Lib Dem or reform they keep asking me but I said I don’t know and I still don’t

got to say I’m not as clued up on politics as them and I struggle with understanding it all and what to believe
(maybe none) any one help me get a better understanding, everything I read I find overwhelming

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makeanddo · 18/06/2024 22:31

High earners, high assets, traditionally Tory voter but didn't vote Tory last time and won't this time,

Won't vote Labour (don't believe in big state) or any of the others mainly due to their disrespect of women. Not sure what I'll do, possibly spoil ballot.

I normally vote for what is best for me and my family. Labour is definitely not best for my family.

TheSixQuarks · 18/06/2024 22:32

These threads are fascinating. I cannot get my head around the posters, and there are quite a few, who say that they can't decide between Reform and the Lib Dem's. Surely they are poles apart and even if you vote tactically they are too ideologically different to ever be in the same voter's brain?

Blueberry40 · 18/06/2024 22:41

We’re in the higher tax bracket- both voting Green.

Sunhatweather · 18/06/2024 22:42

High earners here, even though it doesn’t feel like it anymore. Voting Reform and hoping they at least get to be the opposition - numerous reasons including a desire to move away from two main political parties and bring in proportional representation. Can’t bring myself to vote Labour again.

Femme2804 · 18/06/2024 23:16

I think i might choose Lib deb. No way in hell i choose tory after their support to genocide in palestine. Also for labour keir stammer its the same. Its like tory in a sheep skin.

Clavinova · 18/06/2024 23:25

MargotEmin · 18/06/2024 13:30

We're both high earners, and will both be voting Labour.

I've always trusted them more with public services, but I trust them even more now they have a former Director of Public Prosecutions at the helm - someone who has real world experience of running a public body.

I'm also encouraged by the Shadow (hopefully incoming!) Chancellor being an actual economist who is endorsed by Mark Carney.

Rachel Reeves left the Bank of England in December 2006, aged 27 - Mark Carney didn't join the Bank of England until 2013.

Her next job didn't go well according to this timeline (she joined HBOS as an economist on the retail mortgages team);

Ms Reeves, an economist, worked on the retail mortgages team of HBOS between 2006 and 2009.

HBOS timeline: the countdown to collapse

June 2007 HBOS’s share of new mortgage lending halves to 8%, its lowest level for seven years. Pricing errors are blamed.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/nov/19/hbos-timeline-countdown-collapse-lloyds-takeover

LittleBrownBaby · 18/06/2024 23:25

Top 0.5% of earners (just had a Google to find that out). Proudly and loudly voting labour.

Triestre · 19/06/2024 09:27

Ok Proud and loud as is the socially accepted party 😂

BIWI · 19/06/2024 10:03

I'm sure she speaks very highly of you @Clavinova Hmm

DullFanFiction · 19/06/2024 11:41

Clavinova · 18/06/2024 23:25

Rachel Reeves left the Bank of England in December 2006, aged 27 - Mark Carney didn't join the Bank of England until 2013.

Her next job didn't go well according to this timeline (she joined HBOS as an economist on the retail mortgages team);

Ms Reeves, an economist, worked on the retail mortgages team of HBOS between 2006 and 2009.

HBOS timeline: the countdown to collapse

June 2007 HBOS’s share of new mortgage lending halves to 8%, its lowest level for seven years. Pricing errors are blamed.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/nov/19/hbos-timeline-countdown-collapse-lloyds-takeover

You mean you think she solely responsible for the HBOS’s downturn 😂😂😂😂

time2changeCharlieBrown · 19/06/2024 14:20

Wow some fascinating and valid points on here lots to stew over and consider
thanks for taking the time to post /share thoughts

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ethelredonagoodday · 19/06/2024 14:30

MrsSkylerWhite · 18/06/2024 12:26

Labour. We’re very comfortable and voting Tory would probably benefit us. Hell would freeze over before that happened because we care about other people.

This.

EmmaGrundyForPM · 19/06/2024 14:50

A frightening number of people on here are saying they are going to vote Reform

An equally frightening number are saying they're going to vote for the party which will do the most financially for them/their families rather than for society in general.

This country is really screwed if those people prevail at the polling booth on 4th July

FinanceLPlates · 19/06/2024 14:52

BeRealOrca · 18/06/2024 12:23

What classes as high earners nowadays? I'm in the 40% bracket but I wouldn't class myself as a high earner. Tax Brackets have not reflected wage increases or inflation since they were frozen.

Anywhoo, I have always been a staunch labour supporter, but honestly, Labour's manifesto is so underwhelming I'm not so sure. I live in a very Blue area and im considering voting Reform as a tactical vote.

How would voting Reform be a tactical vote?

MargotEmin · 19/06/2024 16:50

Clavinova · 18/06/2024 23:25

Rachel Reeves left the Bank of England in December 2006, aged 27 - Mark Carney didn't join the Bank of England until 2013.

Her next job didn't go well according to this timeline (she joined HBOS as an economist on the retail mortgages team);

Ms Reeves, an economist, worked on the retail mortgages team of HBOS between 2006 and 2009.

HBOS timeline: the countdown to collapse

June 2007 HBOS’s share of new mortgage lending halves to 8%, its lowest level for seven years. Pricing errors are blamed.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/nov/19/hbos-timeline-countdown-collapse-lloyds-takeover

Sure, you're right, bring back Kwasi Kwarteng, all is forgiven 🤨

Singersong · 19/06/2024 17:36

EmmaGrundyForPM · 19/06/2024 14:50

A frightening number of people on here are saying they are going to vote Reform

An equally frightening number are saying they're going to vote for the party which will do the most financially for them/their families rather than for society in general.

This country is really screwed if those people prevail at the polling booth on 4th July

An even more frightening number of people who are going to vote for a party who thinks a woman can have a penis and plan to allow children to be transgender.

bombastix · 19/06/2024 18:35

Labour. But I don’t feel much better after 14 years of Conservative in terms of being a “higher earner”. Paying more tax than I ever did before!

Wetellyourstory · 19/06/2024 18:45

I don’t think it matters if you are a high earner or not when deciding who to vote for. Labour have said they won’t raise taxes that affect the working person. However I was slightly alarmed that Keir Starmer defined a working person as:-

”People who earn their living, rely on our [public] services and don't really have the ability to write a cheque when they get into trouble."

So in other words, anyone who is able to work, provide for themselves, not rely on the state and has some savings put by (either for emergencies/house deposit/retirement planning etc) isn’t a “working person”.

bombastix · 19/06/2024 18:50

I have to say his definition is odd. Who writes a cheque? But it’s clear, not much priority for those with other assets that provide income.

verdantverdure · 19/06/2024 18:52

I'm voting tactically for the candidate in my constituency who can win who isn't a Tory.

www.getvoting.org/

StraightLines · 19/06/2024 19:00

Conservative. I have always voted labour but I won’t vote for a party who are going to cost us potentially thousands extra in school fees. And I don’t trust Starmer at all on protecting women’s spaces.

Clavinova · 19/06/2024 19:13

DullFanFiction · 19/06/2024 11:41

You mean you think she solely responsible for the HBOS’s downturn 😂😂😂😂

It's hardly a glowing addition to her CV. Rachel Reeves joined HBOS's retail mortgage team as an economist in 2006 - the following year their share of new mortgage lending halved to its lowest level for seven years. That was her department - not a plan for growth was it. Shortly after working for HBOS, Rachel Reeves was elected as an MP (at the age of 31) - Mark Carney's endorsement is built on sand.

Clavinova · 19/06/2024 19:17

MargotEmin · 19/06/2024 16:50

Sure, you're right, bring back Kwasi Kwarteng, all is forgiven 🤨

Are you suggesting that we should vote Labour because Rachel Reeves is not Kwasi Kwarteng?

I think I'll stick with Jeremy Hunt.

bombastix · 19/06/2024 19:23

Well no one else is in sufficient numbers so Reeves it will be. At least we’ve tested the Conservatives on their economic competence to decide

boys3 · 19/06/2024 19:29

EmmaGrundyForPM · 19/06/2024 14:50

A frightening number of people on here are saying they are going to vote Reform

An equally frightening number are saying they're going to vote for the party which will do the most financially for them/their families rather than for society in general.

This country is really screwed if those people prevail at the polling booth on 4th July

A frightening number? At the time of your post a quick count was 15 pps only. Just 15. So not much more than 10% and therefore just a bit lower than the current polling might indicate.

The reality of the thread is that sanity is far more likely to prevail.

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