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General election 2024

Voting if you’re classed as high earning

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time2changeCharlieBrown · 18/06/2024 12:17

just wondering if you earn high or wealthy who will you vote for?
I’m not wealthy but we both do have a higher than average income, however 7 dependents and a large mortgage takes everything!! So on paper we may look it
but realistically we budget for everything

anyway we live in a wealthy area with a lot of rich people (a lot lot better off than us, as far as I can tell anyway )
and they all said not voting labour as would be bad for them and all now detest the tories so all going Lib Dem or reform they keep asking me but I said I don’t know and I still don’t

got to say I’m not as clued up on politics as them and I struggle with understanding it all and what to believe
(maybe none) any one help me get a better understanding, everything I read I find overwhelming

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JassyRadlett · 20/06/2024 16:25

BIossomtoes · 20/06/2024 16:19

He didn’t remain as an MP. That’s why he had to be awarded a peerage to be Foreign Secretary. He didn’t leave the Conservative Party. Labour kicked Corbyn out and they won’t have him back, he’s standing as an independent.

And given he's actually standing and campaigning against a Labour candidate it would be extraordinarily difficult for him to be re-admitted.

BIossomtoes · 20/06/2024 16:30

Alwaystired94 · 20/06/2024 16:23

Mum? is that you?! 😂

Not if your user name indicates the year of your birth! Nice to know I’m not alone though. 😉

MonsterMandibles · 20/06/2024 16:30

nearlylovemyusername · 20/06/2024 15:50

Those voting Labour - aren't you concerned that when they get the power there will be the same infighting as Tory had? And relatively centrist Starmer can be replaced by Rayner?
Have you seen TUC's reaction to workers' rights in manifesto?

Nope. I'm really not.

I don't mind Raynor and if this happens and it all turns to shit, they'll only get 4 years at it. I am not going to make my voting choice out of fear and I'm sick of being told I should be afraid of x, y, z if Labour get in. (Not a dig specifically at you - more a frustration with the Tory campaign this time). It's ridiculous to try and get voters so afraid of change they'll never try it. It's one of the reasons we never seem to make any significant changes in this country any more - despite many being desperately needed.

Pleasebeafleabite · 20/06/2024 16:37

Clavinova · 20/06/2024 16:13

Are you confusing me with a different poster?

I wouldn’t hold your breath for a reply on that one.

Back to the whataboutery though.
I appear to have missed the news item in which Mrs Sunak was standing for Prime Minister.

BIossomtoes · 20/06/2024 16:39

Pleasebeafleabite · 20/06/2024 16:37

I wouldn’t hold your breath for a reply on that one.

Back to the whataboutery though.
I appear to have missed the news item in which Mrs Sunak was standing for Prime Minister.

You have heard what they say about Caesar’s wife, haven’t you? Utterly disingenuous.

BIossomtoes · 20/06/2024 16:43

Clavinova · 20/06/2024 16:13

Are you confusing me with a different poster?

Possibly. If I am I apologise.

Alwaystired94 · 20/06/2024 16:47

nearlylovemyusername · 20/06/2024 15:50

Those voting Labour - aren't you concerned that when they get the power there will be the same infighting as Tory had? And relatively centrist Starmer can be replaced by Rayner?
Have you seen TUC's reaction to workers' rights in manifesto?

Not really no. The 'infighting; of the Tories has been the least of my problems with them considering how corrupt and self serving they've been.

Angela Rayner seems to be good at what she does. She's not had a privileged upbringing and has achieved a hell of a lot in her life. She is one of the only MPs who actually knows and understands the struggles of a large part of our population. I'd welcome a higher number of MPs with experience and empathy rather than what we've had as the norm for a long time.

ohthejoys21 · 20/06/2024 16:49

I'm not too interested in any party manifestos.. haven't we learnt by now they have absolutely no bearing on what happens when said party is elected? It's just words.

Pleasebeafleabite · 20/06/2024 16:52

BIossomtoes · 20/06/2024 16:39

You have heard what they say about Caesar’s wife, haven’t you? Utterly disingenuous.

I don’t mind which tax opportunities private individuals avail themselves of as long as they are legal.

I do mind when a party leader on course to run the country plans to reintroduce 55% tax charges to anyone but themselves

But please do carry on with your irrelevant whataboutery

BIWI · 20/06/2024 16:55

Clavinova · 20/06/2024 16:00

BIWI
So he stood down. It was the shares that he had in the company that made him his money - some 18 years after he'd left

Your copy and paste said he stood down as director in 2009 and the company was sold in January 2017 - that's 7 years, not 18 years.

Three failed ventures?

In his early 20s - most successful entrepreneurs have not-so successful start-up businesses early in their CVs.

So he's allowed to fail, but Rachel Reeves isn't allowed to be even associated with a whole bank's poor performance?!

And yes, apologies for the poor arithmetic. My bad! But still a fairly long period of time, isn't it?

Alwaystired94 · 20/06/2024 17:05

BIWI · 20/06/2024 16:55

So he's allowed to fail, but Rachel Reeves isn't allowed to be even associated with a whole bank's poor performance?!

And yes, apologies for the poor arithmetic. My bad! But still a fairly long period of time, isn't it?

you forgot the #1 rule of the tories, if it goes wrong it's not their fault. If it goes well, it's only due to them. You Silly Billy!

Clavinova · 20/06/2024 17:17

BIWI · 20/06/2024 16:55

So he's allowed to fail, but Rachel Reeves isn't allowed to be even associated with a whole bank's poor performance?!

And yes, apologies for the poor arithmetic. My bad! But still a fairly long period of time, isn't it?

So he's allowed to fail, but Rachel Reeves isn't allowed to be even associated with a whole bank's poor performance?!

I didn't post about the whole bank's collapse - she was an economist for the retail mortgages team - the team that lost half its market share due to pricing errors. She left HBOS and became an MP - nothing successful in between.

But still a fairly long period of time, isn't it?

You have ignored my subsequent post - Jeremy Hunt's business was valued at over £30 million in 2013;

The proposed deal ... would cement the health secretary's reputation as one of the most successful entrepreneurs in the House of Commons.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/nov/08/jeremy-hunt-17m-hotcourses-sale-inflexion

Pip67893 · 20/06/2024 17:52

I would vote lib dem but the candidate has just been shipped in from the other side of the country! So I'll likely vote green, which will be a wasted vote I know but then it'd take a minor miracle if the tories didn't win here.

bombastix · 20/06/2024 18:00

Alwaystired94 · 20/06/2024 17:05

you forgot the #1 rule of the tories, if it goes wrong it's not their fault. If it goes well, it's only due to them. You Silly Billy!

I look forward to their bleating about ECHR compliance when they realise it covers their assets. Still, it was the Tories who decided there could be a public policy on Rwanda that didn’t comply and a law passed to do that.

Stupid Tories. Years of destroying protective legal precedents and then suddenly a new government with a huge majority might be a problem. Because they look like minority now. Not much power to stop anything

Alwaystired94 · 20/06/2024 18:54

bombastix · 20/06/2024 18:00

I look forward to their bleating about ECHR compliance when they realise it covers their assets. Still, it was the Tories who decided there could be a public policy on Rwanda that didn’t comply and a law passed to do that.

Stupid Tories. Years of destroying protective legal precedents and then suddenly a new government with a huge majority might be a problem. Because they look like minority now. Not much power to stop anything

Rwanda is one of the biggest cons in their recent history. trying to frame it as a great deterrent. when in reality it’s a very expensive farce.

they deserve to be the minority now - i wouldn’t even trust them to be an effective opposition at this point.

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