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General election 2024

Seeing as it’s anonymous… where is your vote going?

515 replies

Wheresyourvote · 10/06/2024 20:32

My views -

Conservative - Potentially had a tough ride with Covid & brexit aftermath to navigate. However, looking at the state of the NHS & the ever increasing price rises in almost everything… how could I vote them in again?

Labour - Almost feels like the only likely alternative. Change is as good as any? But Keir starmer does precisely 0 for me. I cannot get passionate about him.

Greens - Won our constituency a while ago, whilst I appreciate what they stand for the changes they made locally have had a negative impact on the average citizen IMO.

Reform - Nigel Farage is DIFFERENT, I don’t think that can be denied. Part of me thinks bold and controversial is what we need and the other thinks he is a brilliant campaigner and is just playing up to the people trying to act like ‘one of the working class’ to garner votes.

Where is your vote going?

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Justkeepswiimming · 10/06/2024 22:27

Clavinova · 10/06/2024 22:20

Justkeepswiimming
I dont want a pm who disrespects our war dead

Keir Starmer and Anas Sawar removed their poppies to record videos on Islamophobia - seemingly on the same day:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1830894/lee-anderson-missing-poppies-islamophobia-keir-starmer-anas-sarwar
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/11/02/starmer-row-poppy-islamophobia-awareness-campaign/

It is also common place to remove poppies for recordings that need to transcend time, as poppies will date anything.

Netcam · 10/06/2024 22:27

NotSayingImBatman · 10/06/2024 20:35

Labour, there’s no other viable option. If I voted with my heart it would probably be Green, but ironically, I’d be wasting a piece of paper.

Same for me.

Jennyathemall · 10/06/2024 22:30

Sunhatweather · 10/06/2024 20:47

I’m tired of hearing about ‘wasted votes’. No vote is wasted. The idea of democracy is you vote with your feelings/opinion and if your party doesn’t win, so be it. That’s not ‘wasted’ - that’s something said by someone encouraging you to not vote how you actually want.

Tories - No
Labour - As it is currently - hell no.
Reform - YES. Solid plans to reform the NHS properly (which will involve me paying more) and I want a change from the same old two party race. They need to be challenged.

Yes your vote is wasted if your primary objective is to remove the incumbent and the current system means only one party can achieve that in your constituency. If you vote for someone else who has no chance of winning, for whatever reasons, all you are doing is increasing the chances of the incumbent winning.

1dayatatime · 10/06/2024 22:35

@ilovesooty

"I think it's depressing that someone can be so uninformed and disinterested."

Actually that's fairly reflective of most of the electorate - welcome to democracy 😀

G123456789 · 10/06/2024 22:36

GoogleWhacking · 10/06/2024 22:02

@G123456789 procurement initially brought in by Tories as a drive to improve efficiency. www.kingsfund.org.uk/insight-and-analysis/long-reads/what-commissioning-and-how-it-changing Procurement means you have to have managers running contracts. It also means that you have lots of private companies running NHS services and charging a minimum 10% "profit margin". You are very much mistaken if you think privatisation will solve the issue of managers.

Bringing health back into the public domain with NHS trusts responsible for health services is what is needed

I'll be voting Labour.

Indeed which is why I prefer reforms ideas for the nhs. I personally would have one central team to buy everything and individual hospitals/doctors make requests to that team
Please see the thread about management in the nhs. Reform removes these pointless quango roles.

But the press hate reform/farage and like Tim Martin of Wetherspoons, prints a lot of anti propaganda

Starlightstarbright3 · 10/06/2024 22:41

I just picked up a Green Party leaflet off my doormat . Front cover we will fill pot holes .. now I absolutely want pot holes filled but why would I vote in a GE over pot holes?

Wethairwendy · 10/06/2024 22:44

Conservatives or reform.

Clavinova · 10/06/2024 22:45

Justkeepswiimming · 10/06/2024 22:27

It is also common place to remove poppies for recordings that need to transcend time, as poppies will date anything.

That would make sense except that Starmer's spokesperson claimed it was a mistake.

Toooldforthis36 · 10/06/2024 22:53

Wheresyourvote · 10/06/2024 20:38

Those voting Labour, can I ask if that’s because you genuinely believe in Keir Starmer and his policies or because you just want conservatives out?

I’ve never voted Labour but will this time. I do like Keir Starmer, have listened to a few in depth interviews and I believe him to be genuine and decent.

policy wise, I believe we need much much more of a focus on proper management of public services - this was better, to my mind, under the last Lab govt (I admit this now, didn’t vote for them at the time). I like what Wes Streeting says on NHS.

on balance, best fit out of all of them - no party is perfect.

Reform can get in the bin though.

1dayatatime · 10/06/2024 22:53

Starlightstarbright3 · 10/06/2024 22:41

I just picked up a Green Party leaflet off my doormat . Front cover we will fill pot holes .. now I absolutely want pot holes filled but why would I vote in a GE over pot holes?

Because when all the other main parties have copied your key green policies what else is there to campaign on other than pot holes?

Rainbowbrite83 · 10/06/2024 23:02

Labour

Outnumbered247 · 10/06/2024 23:04

NCNC10000009 · 10/06/2024 21:00

@ilovesooty nope, not got a clue. How is that depressing?
Presuming the 'tories' refers to conservatories
Never heard of reform, is that a party ?
I've no idea what's going on/ each party is all about, so no point voting.

🧌

SheilaFentiman · 10/06/2024 23:05

Lib Dem tactical vote to #GTTO.

Why are you worried about charisma in a leader, Op? Johnson had charisma. He was also a clown show.

Zonder · 10/06/2024 23:06

Labour

GingerPirate · 10/06/2024 23:12

Reform.

hillyholman · 10/06/2024 23:35

Hedgeoffressian · 10/06/2024 20:53

What, like taxing pensions?

No party will allow the personal tax allowance to be less than the basic state pension as it will mean that thousands of pensioners will have to complete Self Assessment Tax Returns. Stressful and complicated for pensioners. Hugely expensive for HMRC who wouldn't cope.

Livelovebehappy · 10/06/2024 23:47

You’re going to get proportionately way more people responding with Labour. This is MN. A Labour echo chamber. But it in no way accurately reflects real life. I’m voting Reform, and know many others doing the same. Especially after seeing the very poor performance by Starmer in last weeks face to face debate with Sunak. To me, voting Labour would be like jumping out of the frying pan into the fire.

Fushia123 · 10/06/2024 23:49

I feel the need for a change and am thinking about the future for my daughter.
With this in mind, I offered a few hours of my time to the local Green Party yesterday. I met the group and we delivered leaflets in the target area - a ward in the constituency. It is definitely going to go to the sitting Labour MP. No question.
But it’s important to do something to make a difference. No vote is wasted. It’s your vote. On the day after the election, the list of candidates and votes will be published. Your preferred party may not win, but that is democracy in action.
Be proactive. I actually asked a lot of questions about local elections and learnt a great deal.

ILoveToCleanSaidNooneEver · 10/06/2024 23:52

NotSayingImBatman · 10/06/2024 20:35

Labour, there’s no other viable option. If I voted with my heart it would probably be Green, but ironically, I’d be wasting a piece of paper.

Could have written this myself almost verbatim. Definitely Labour.

CKL987 · 10/06/2024 23:58

Makeitblue · 10/06/2024 20:39

Reform, purely because they are the only party to acknowledge that the NHS doesn't just need more funding, but a complete overhaul.

I don't understand why people would believe anything Farage says when we didn't get what he promised with Brexist?
Also, just saying it needs an overhaul doesn't mean that he has the right ideas about what that overhaul might be.

CKL987 · 11/06/2024 00:05

For those people who say Reform because they want change, that scares me. Think about their actual policies and read their manifesto and see if they'll really help you. Just because Nige is using the right buzz words to attract your attention doesn't mean that the parties policies will actually help you.

Definitely not tory. I do not want another 2% NI cut. I'm £120 a month better off because of the previous 2 cuts but people on minimum wage are nowhere near that amount better off and they are the people needing the money most. Another sign of the tories helping the better off and not giving a shit about helping the poorer people in society.

Cutting of benefits and trying to get people back to work. How about the number of people on benefits because they are stuck on an NHS waiting list.
Having had a family member treated for cancer and seeing the co-pay (equivalent to excess) that well insured Americans have to pay I will not go anywhere near Reform. Everyone who is struggling with cost of living now will have a massive fucking shock when they have to start paying directly for their medical care.

The bloody stamp duty idea being touted today for first time buyers is just going to push prices up again. Worked really well before didn't it??

I don't know if my vote will be red or yellow but my labour MP had a 14,000 majority at the last election so I think we know who will be winning.

DaisyCat33 · 11/06/2024 00:16

Labour. I always vote labour. My constituency is a Labour stronghold and has been for many years.

ChedderGorgeous · 11/06/2024 00:20

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 10/06/2024 20:33

Reform

Nurse ! She's out of bed again !

Neurodiversitydoctor · 11/06/2024 05:22

G123456789 · 10/06/2024 21:10

But that's my point it needs proper management, the company I worked for until 2009 wouldn't have spent 250k on a clock, or 2 football pitches of wasted space. Southmead nhs management did both less than 10 years ago.
Proper outside, profit driven management (where profit gets driven back into the business) is the only solution. Doctors/matrons can manage the clinical side but be honest, if you were taking over the nhs what would you do first....I would streamline the procurement to exercise the ability to leverage the buying power...just like Tescos do. I'd make 100s redundant but save £millions...really not sure if that's possible under the current structure

Have a read of this. The NHS is actually pretty good value and does not spend a huge amount on administration, it just needs more staff to function

https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/insight-and-analysis/blogs/comparing-nhs-to-health-care-systems-other-countries

Neurodiversitydoctor · 11/06/2024 05:31

VinnieVanDog · 10/06/2024 21:55

It looks like I actually won't vote for the first time in my life. I want the Tories out and that seems like a foregone conclusion, my Labour MP's seat is safe.

I think the country will be in safer hands with Labour but I want them to know they can't take my vote for granted and that I dont trust them on a number of important issues.

I think everyone has the right to vote for whichever party they want. But this attitude really incenses me. I take it you are a women ? You know people actually died to give you a vote right ? If you don't bother and still expect change you are utterly implicit in whichever shit show goverment we end up with for the next 5 years.