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General election 2024

Farage has announced that he'll be making an announcement...

515 replies

Westfacing · 03/06/2024 12:16

... an 'emergency' announcement, no less.

Presumably to announce he's finally plucked up courage to put his money were his big mouth is and stand for Parliament, after bottling it!

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marshmallowmix · 03/06/2024 17:59

Wonder what has changed he said last week he didn’t have the time to find a constituency in time for the GE…and that he was off to America to assist Trump!

Cattenberg · 03/06/2024 18:00

Alwaysalwayscold · 03/06/2024 17:24

I like a lot of things but right now they are both very hot on illegal immigration and I think that it's really one of the largest issues in the world at the moment. Also they both oppose gender ideology.

Thank you for answering.

Most people don’t really agree with gender ideology, although I find it worrying that many politicians are afraid to say so. It seems to be the one issue that’s completely taboo, which is very strange! 15 years ago, the idea that women’s sports were for females only wouldn’t have been remotely controversial. Also, no one in the mainstream pretended that sex was assigned at birth.

Regarding immigration, I think only the Green Party would like to remove immigration controls eventually. But we badly need immigrant workers due to our ageing population (especially health and care staff).

Would you mind sharing some of the other things you like?

Begsthequestion · 03/06/2024 18:00

Greekangel · 03/06/2024 16:42

I agree with TabithaTimeTurn3er.

The question is why an earth does she have to explain her view..... Free speech

She doesn't have to answer. She is free to ignore it.

But freedom of speech means freedom to ask the question.

MsJinks · 03/06/2024 18:00

@fungipie - I’d not cottoned onto NHS - was thinking trade deals and Trump thinking he runs England with ‘his very good friend, a great guy’ - scary - hope this is on Reform manifesto then and folk can make their own minds up.

StripedPiggy · 03/06/2024 18:03

This is excellent news. It won’t affect which party wins the election ; as YouGov’s new mega-poll for Sky News shows, a Labour landslide is now inevitable. But it does mean the right wing vote will be even more split and Tories will lose even more seats. They are now facing the wipe-out they so richly deserve. 🥳

fungipie · 03/06/2024 18:09

MsJinks · 03/06/2024 18:00

@fungipie - I’d not cottoned onto NHS - was thinking trade deals and Trump thinking he runs England with ‘his very good friend, a great guy’ - scary - hope this is on Reform manifesto then and folk can make their own minds up.

He made this abundantly clear on Question Time last week that the NHS had to be changed for a private system. Will try and find the link.

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fungipie · 03/06/2024 18:11

A perfect example of the need for tactical voting. Labour, Greens and Lib Dems should decide which candidate has more chance to block him and only vote for that candidate, even withdraw the others.

User135644 · 03/06/2024 18:11

If he becomes MP what's the betting he joins the Tories and goes for the leadership after Sunak is trounced?

User135644 · 03/06/2024 18:15

Igotjelly · 03/06/2024 16:59

What do we think Farage will mean for split ting the Labour vote?

I don't think it's an issue for Labour because he'll take a lot of votes off the last election Tory vote.

Labour are looking to combine their 2019 share with a lot of soft Tories (i.e. centre right Remainers) as the Tories push further right to try and combat Reform.

Plus Brexit Party under Farage stood down all candidates in existing Tory seats. Election result could have been a lot different had he not done that. And in non-Tory seats they succeeded in splitting the Tory vote in a lot of seats which prevented a bigger majority.

Sturnidae · 03/06/2024 18:16

42ndchance · 03/06/2024 16:45

Lovely.

Many of my best childhood memories are with my grandmother in Clacton. But the frothing of the intellectually challenged when it comes to politics does love a good sneer at entire populations they see as lesser.

I don't agree with Reform policies, or much with Nigel Farage.

But I DO remember exactly where this sneering bollocks got us last time. Farage has never been elected as an MP, but just look at the political whirlwind he creates. Brexit would not have happened without him.

Just dismissing and denigrating people you don't agree with got us Brexit. And it could get us worse next time.

I'm terrified by this and would love to see people calmly discussing things with those that don't agree with them, like actual grown ups.

A lot of the rhetoric on thsi thread is just as damaging and divisive as anything Farage has said.

Alright for you, but you got to leave 😩 I grew up there as a mixed race child and stupidly decided to return as an adult (and managed to escape again), it certainly deserves the reputation it has and I'm unsurprised that Farage is standing there.

fungipie · 03/06/2024 18:17

Perhaps the people of Clacton should be reminded of what he thinks of the place

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Sturnidae · 03/06/2024 18:18

fungipie · 03/06/2024 18:17

Perhaps the people of Clacton should be reminded of what he thinks of the place

https://www.facebook.com/share/6oxWDEK2E4M2evMP/

They don't care what he thinks about them, only what he thinks about furriners.

Leftie99 · 03/06/2024 18:18

He is a fascist and a true racist. I think he genuinely hates brown and black people, it's active hate.

Europe is going very right wing. We have been here before. Worrying.

User135644 · 03/06/2024 18:19

Charlie2121 · 03/06/2024 16:55

I like him.

After the GE he’ll look to merge with the Conservatives and throw his hat into the ring to become leader of the opposition.

The fun would really start then as he’d annihilate the likes of Starmer and Rayner at PMQ’s.

A right leaning Conservative Party with him at the helm would be hard to beat at the next GE in 5 years time after 5 years in opposition pointing out the failings of Labour.

People will soon see Labour for what they are and will crave an alternative in similar fashion to how many want a change now.

Farage for PM? Stranger things have happened. There’s certainly a route for him to achieve it now.

Farage has been wrong about everything near enough. Sold Brexit to the nation on a lie, national self harm which has also created the channel crossings crisis.

He was a big champion of Truss and the kamikaze budget. If he became PM we'd be bankrupt in a similar 40 day period.

He's the right wing version of Corbyn. Fantasy politics. A campaigner/agitator, but got no answers to problems.

fungipie · 03/06/2024 18:21

Leftie99 · 03/06/2024 18:18

He is a fascist and a true racist. I think he genuinely hates brown and black people, it's active hate.

Europe is going very right wing. We have been here before. Worrying.

What is even much worse, and even more worrying, is that so many seem to be supporting him, just like Trump. WHO, but WHO are those people?

StripedPiggy · 03/06/2024 18:22

User135644 · 03/06/2024 18:11

If he becomes MP what's the betting he joins the Tories and goes for the leadership after Sunak is trounced?

I’m pretty sure that’s his long-term plan. A reverse takeover of the Conservative Party. Objectively, that may not be a bad thing. Britain should have a right wing party which actually believes in conservative policies such as low taxes, a small state, reduced public spending, tackling the benefits dependency culture. A party whil will take action on immigration, law & order & wokery rather than empty words etc etc.

TitusMoan · 03/06/2024 18:24

TabithaTimeTurn3r · 03/06/2024 16:30

The point is people have had enough of the lying fuckers that are the conservatives and the moronic Labour twats who think a women can have a penis.

Good luck to him, he’s got my vote.

(I’ll expect the usual abuse from mumsnet, the free speech site where no one can actually speak freely, unless you’re a leftie, without being shouted down as a moron).

Read your rant back to yourself. You’ve just bemoaned being ‘shouted down as a moron’ while talking about ‘moronic Labour twats’.

BloodyHellKenAgain · 03/06/2024 18:24

MsJinks · 03/06/2024 17:55

I’ve been wondering what happened to his US grift - then I wondered if Trump wanted a good friend in the U.K. Parliament- I’m thinking I want to emigrate to Pluto if my western peers vote these 2 in tbh.
I have to say I’ve not seen so many very right wing views on a mumsnet thread before - I’m sure it’s good not to sit in an echo chamber but it is interesting as to how it’s happening.

Maybe he doesn't want to be associated with Trump now he's been found guilty ?
I could be wrong but I've long suspected Trump is on a downward trajectory.

Sturnidae · 03/06/2024 18:25

Leftie99 · 03/06/2024 18:18

He is a fascist and a true racist. I think he genuinely hates brown and black people, it's active hate.

Europe is going very right wing. We have been here before. Worrying.

This is my concern. How can he even be allowed to stand when he's so very clear about his racism?

Katypp · 03/06/2024 18:26

RainbowZebraWarrior · 03/06/2024 17:18

I see Nige has mobilised his bots already

This is another thing on MN. Every time something comes up which doesn't follow the simplistic left = good right = bad rhetoric, someone always pipes up about bots.
It's almost as if we all had to think the same.

Charlie2121 · 03/06/2024 18:28

fungipie · 03/06/2024 18:21

What is even much worse, and even more worrying, is that so many seem to be supporting him, just like Trump. WHO, but WHO are those people?

The UK is an outlier with current left wing views in part due to the way the education system has developed politically.

In France for example voters in the 18-25 age group strongly favour right wing politics. The same is true in the Netherlands where Geert Wilders also has huge support from younger voters in the main because of their concerns over immigration.

The same will happen here in the end. Unfortunately we need to go through a world of pain before some people see the light.

BloodyHellKenAgain · 03/06/2024 18:30

Igotjelly · 03/06/2024 16:59

What do we think Farage will mean for split ting the Labour vote?

Labour won't want to admit this but I bet he'll have quite a bit of support in the old red wall constituencies. I'm from there and many are are very socially conservative.

Leftie99 · 03/06/2024 18:33

@Sturnidae it is bewildering.

I feel there's a pure racism there, active and well-exercised. I can forgive and understand a person using the wrong term, that is normally ignorance but not intentional or dangerous, but Farage's racism is very much a VERB 🥲

Justcallmebebes · 03/06/2024 18:34

boys3 · 03/06/2024 16:20

Standing for election in Clacton. In this instance probably with a good chance of getting elected. Feel for the people of Clacton really.

Well that doesn't make sense. Why would you feel for the people of Clacton if he gets elected by the people of Clacton? Doubt he will be, but your post makes no sense