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General election 2024

Farage has announced that he'll be making an announcement...

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Westfacing · 03/06/2024 12:16

... an 'emergency' announcement, no less.

Presumably to announce he's finally plucked up courage to put his money were his big mouth is and stand for Parliament, after bottling it!

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MsJinks · 03/06/2024 18:39

@BloodyHellKenAgain - I really, really hope you’re right about Trump! Yes, Farage likes to stay ahead of the game and on the best side for his own ends, so it maybe that he’s breaking ties, which would be best for me not seeing their double act at least! I would assume that this would be for the ‘optics’ and popularity reasons - I’m not convinced Farage would break them on moral grounds, just because Trump is a convicted felon, at least not if he could see a way to keep capitalising on the association. Maybe it will become apparent why he’s not gone to support him.

Westfacing · 03/06/2024 18:41

Clacton voted heavily for Brexit - I wonder if it did them any good, and how they feel about it now.

I don't know the place but I can't imagine that's it's thrived in the past eight years.

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Hedgeoffressian · 03/06/2024 18:46

StripedPiggy · 03/06/2024 18:03

This is excellent news. It won’t affect which party wins the election ; as YouGov’s new mega-poll for Sky News shows, a Labour landslide is now inevitable. But it does mean the right wing vote will be even more split and Tories will lose even more seats. They are now facing the wipe-out they so richly deserve. 🥳

And when people realise that a vote for Labour means that they are taxed into oblivion then there will be a massive swing and Reform will win at the next GE 😊

fungipie · 03/06/2024 18:47

Charlie2121 · 03/06/2024 18:28

The UK is an outlier with current left wing views in part due to the way the education system has developed politically.

In France for example voters in the 18-25 age group strongly favour right wing politics. The same is true in the Netherlands where Geert Wilders also has huge support from younger voters in the main because of their concerns over immigration.

The same will happen here in the end. Unfortunately we need to go through a world of pain before some people see the light.

See the fascist and racist right = 'the light' - just like 'the light' of the 1930s in Germany. I feel sick.

bombastix · 03/06/2024 18:47

The line “making Britain great again”.

The Telegraph is ecstatic. Cannot help but feel that the Conservatives, with their multicultural cabinet have got this utterly wrong. Whatever is left of them that is.

BloodyHellKenAgain · 03/06/2024 18:50

bombastix · 03/06/2024 18:47

The line “making Britain great again”.

The Telegraph is ecstatic. Cannot help but feel that the Conservatives, with their multicultural cabinet have got this utterly wrong. Whatever is left of them that is.

But the Conservatives haven't persuaded Farage to run again so how have they got it 'utterly wrong'?

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 03/06/2024 18:50

Samuel Barber - Adagio for Strings
(Both the original and the William Orbit Dance remix!).

BiggerBoat1 · 03/06/2024 18:51

Socha · 03/06/2024 17:31

How is he homophobic? Im being serious so sarcasm can't be read into

Amongst many odious things that he had said was a particularly distasteful “joke” about fags that I don’t really want to repeat.

CroftonWillow · 03/06/2024 18:52

I watched his announcement. Whatever you think of his politics (I disagree with most of it) he is the clearest, most powerful communicator in politics at the moment by a mile and he seems to be on a mission. Quite worrying.

Charlie2121 · 03/06/2024 18:53

fungipie · 03/06/2024 18:47

See the fascist and racist right = 'the light' - just like 'the light' of the 1930s in Germany. I feel sick.

What a ridiculous melodramatic response.

Notaflippinclue · 03/06/2024 18:56

Perhaps if you had to live in places like Clayton you would realise why Farage is attractive

HappiestSleeping · 03/06/2024 18:57

Hedgeoffressian · 03/06/2024 18:46

And when people realise that a vote for Labour means that they are taxed into oblivion then there will be a massive swing and Reform will win at the next GE 😊

We have a fairly low rate of income tax and consequently a bundle of public services that are on their knees.

Personally, I wouldn't mind paying more tax in order to have public services such as the NHS. I rather like being able to be mended when I break. And I realise that it costs money for this to happen.

If your point is that the Labour Party may not administer what they collect any better than the Conservative Party, that is a different discussion, however they could hardly be worse at it.

marshmallowmix · 03/06/2024 18:57

His strength is he’s a v good talker …he’d run rings around Starmer and Rayner…he’s tuned in to what people want to hear…the gender issues and mass unchecked immigration...
it’s all a mess…

Churchview · 03/06/2024 18:58

Hedgeoffressian · 03/06/2024 18:46

And when people realise that a vote for Labour means that they are taxed into oblivion then there will be a massive swing and Reform will win at the next GE 😊

Don't we currently have the highest tax ever under this Tory government?

Westfacing · 03/06/2024 18:59

Notaflippinclue · 03/06/2024 18:56

Perhaps if you had to live in places like Clayton you would realise why Farage is attractive

What does he have to offer them?

He gave them Brexit - are they happy with the results of that?

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Begsthequestion · 03/06/2024 19:03

fungipie · 03/06/2024 18:47

See the fascist and racist right = 'the light' - just like 'the light' of the 1930s in Germany. I feel sick.

Same here.

bombastix · 03/06/2024 19:04

I guess we will find out - presumably he chose Clacton as a relatively sure thing. It’s been absolutely obvious he’s going to go for the Conservatives and secure their core vote for ages. Not enough for a majority but enough to disrupt.

noblegiraffe · 03/06/2024 19:07

Peston just tweeted this, it's very interesting

"The Tory Party’s response to Farage taking direct control of Reform and becoming the Clacton candidate is to fundamentally misunderstand him.

A Tory spokesman warns he is handing Starmer a blank cheque by undermining the Tories. But Farage said on the Peston show last week that he could not care less about the damage to the Conservatives, because he is convinced they have lost, with or without the challenge of Reform.

Farage is contemptuous of the Conservative Party. He told me the election was already effectively over - and the latest YouGov MRP poll suggests Sunak has more than a mountain to climb - such that Labour would inevitably win.

With that conviction, all Farage cares about, he said, is that the right wing in politics should regroup and rebuild in the aftermath.

He said he does not want to reconfigure and rebuild the Conservative Party from within, whatever Tory MPs say about welcoming him to their ranks.

He believes the Tory Party will break up, and that Reform is therefore the vehicle by which a right-of-centre party will rise again.

He also said that there is no way he can be bought off by Sunak, since he broadly believes the country went to the dogs after he stood down candidates in 2019 for Boris Johnson.

The only deal Farage would contemplate, he said, would be Tory candidates being forced to stand down by Sunak in favour of Reform. That is never going to happen, he conceded.

So an election campaign that initially looked like the PM paddling in a small boat into a storm now looks like him heading straight into a hurricane."

https://x.com/peston/status/1797670222406775036?s=61&t=U9XrcF693-JpMxeIueYG7g

Katypp · 03/06/2024 19:09

BloodyHellKenAgain · 03/06/2024 18:30

Labour won't want to admit this but I bet he'll have quite a bit of support in the old red wall constituencies. I'm from there and many are are very socially conservative.

I agree with this
In my area (red wall) there are some extremely right-wing Labour voters who would have voted Labour but may well switch to Farage because middle-class Labour don't really have much to offer traditional Labour voters.

LlynTegid · 03/06/2024 19:12

I think he will get elected, Richard Tice and maybe Lee Anderson, but unlikely to be any others.

Charlie2121 · 03/06/2024 19:15

LlynTegid · 03/06/2024 19:12

I think he will get elected, Richard Tice and maybe Lee Anderson, but unlikely to be any others.

As long as he wins his seat that is all that matters. If his party receives around 15-20% of the total vote it puts him in a strong position to influence right wing opposition after the GE.

bombastix · 03/06/2024 19:17

Katypp · 03/06/2024 19:09

I agree with this
In my area (red wall) there are some extremely right-wing Labour voters who would have voted Labour but may well switch to Farage because middle-class Labour don't really have much to offer traditional Labour voters.

Yes but this is priced in. You can see Labour have shifted to chase southern middle class voters. They will be successful. Labour learned a hard lesson from 2019 that you can’t win without the English middle class; and the Tory Party seem to have forgotten that themselves.

Swingingvvoter · 03/06/2024 19:19

Farage said he stood aside to let Boris win and no one thanked him from the tories. He was clearly hurt by that.
So he's going for the jugular.

marshmallowmix · 03/06/2024 19:25

He got brexit through so he will succeed I think in getting in…then the gloves will be off. I think he has a wider appeal more than people want to admit …

bombastix · 03/06/2024 19:27

marshmallowmix · 03/06/2024 19:25

He got brexit through so he will succeed I think in getting in…then the gloves will be off. I think he has a wider appeal more than people want to admit …

Agreed. His ticket is why bother with the politically correct Conservatives when you can go Reform? Conservatives do not have an answer on that one. They are toast

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