Do you know people who will emigrate if labour win?

[groyard]

This is making me all very stressed. Trying not to freak myself out over future socio-economic ramifications for the UK if there is a wider trend of “brain drain”.

Brother and BIL have both said that if Labour win they will be emigrating with their wives and children.

I’ve heard similar sentiment from others but assume (hope) this is hyperbole.

Just to say, none of the people mentioned are wealthy but just about comfortable. Both highly skilled and in demand internationally.

I don't get the insults or why people aren't allowed to want either more of the money they work for or a better state. Why should people be on call work like dogs and be told they should be grateful and that they should have no input on tax. They are not the right wing nuts I cannot express to you how boringly average they are. To say you want lower wait times in hospital but refuse to adress the fact Dr's are leaving is just crazy. This can't be real people can't be so out of touch.

Might do! I then it depends on what Labour do. Keir Starmer seems pretty sensible. I worry that the right-wing media are already out to get him and I also think that the public will turn against him when things don't magically improve. I would worry then that someone completely mad (likeLiz Truss but Labour) would get in. I think the issue is that this country (and the world) are facing such tough challenges and they are all so difficult to solve. So maybe OP , and I think that lots of other people are too. I hope that the Labour manifesto gives people confidence and that Keir Starmer is a great PM. It is pretty easy to move country these days if you have skills etc..- everything is so global. But I would prefer to stay.

Oh I dearly hope a tuition fees increase is coming soon. Even my relatively rich university is running all of our STEM courses and several others at a loss. Staff morale is terrible. We manage only by having a very high proportion

Me too. If it improves universities that’s great. We can afford it. But of course it might well cut out the poor people that can’t. Labour have previous there.. Always cutting down the tall poppies and so others suffer.

You're right, the Tories have massively fucked things up for a vast swathe of workers from poorly to well paid over the last 14 years, it's no wonder people wanted to leave.

Good riddance to them!

DH is top 2% earner (possibly top 1% as the figures I've looked up seem to differ) We have no plans to emigrate. The idea that everyone is going to leave the country sounds ludicrous to me.

Lots of our friends are very high earners , brother in law is a millionaire. None are planning to emigrate and many like us are voting Labour ( and that includes my rich brother in law)

I grew up very poor in a council
Estate during the Thatcher and Major years and then in 1997 everything changed for the better. The Blair government was by no means perfect but during that time DH and I who were newly married and had bought our first tiny little home with our very average salaries really prospered.

I'm probably looking back through rose tinted glasses but I'm feeling hopeful for the future.

Brother and BIL have both said that if Labour win they will be emigrating with their wives and children.

...good. They sound ridiculous.

Excellent. And who will pay all the taxes to fund all the things that you need?

Nope, no one. And I'm in a circle of high earners.

Just hot air I expect because they are glum about it.

Paul Daniels, Andrew Lloyd-Webber and Frank Bruno al said they'd emigrate if Labour won the 1997 General Election. None of them did. Mores the pity.

The child of an immigrant and he's still Tory. I correct my previous comment of "ridiculous" and replace it with "moron".

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of Overseas students - some with lesser qualifications - and charging them very high fees. ‘We’ is a collective noun here for almost all UK universities, and I must emphasise that a good proportion of my School’s Overseas students fully meet our Entry Requirements. But the balance is widely recognised to be skewed, and I write as someone who supports international initiatives

But VAT isn’t the right mechanism; it is an artifice. We should just raise, or possibly tier, tuition

You have it completely back to front..Doctors nurses and teachers are leaving due to poor pay and conditions that were caused by the current Tory government. Retention will be much better if labour gets in as these services will be better funded

No but I hope those who feel that way piss off as soon as possible. We are better off without them.

This is the exact point. It's not a normal politics thing is not left or right at the moment it's well who will reduce the tax or improve the state. The wages in the UK are crazy low it's insane how much the diffrence is. When people talk about other states like Australia or France they forget well their service is partially paid for by patients directly. Someone needs to make some hard decisions quick.

Everyone. That’s called society. I’m a higher rate tax payer btw.

Lovely. It’ll all work out.

This is a really interesting thread. We emigrated not because of Labour, but because of the Tories and their mismanagement of Brexit. Also where we lived was getting increasingly bleak.

No. And I wouldn’t believe anyone who said it, either. What a load of nonsense.

@frankentall Indeed

Not a soul. We are well off (top 1%) as are most of our friends. We’ll be voting Labour as will many people I know.

I’d rather pay a bit more tax in a decent and well-functioning country than less tax in the chaotic shithole Britain is turning into under the Tories.

I'm unsure why this is so emotive right now the majority of state income is provided by a smaller group of people then ever before in modern state history. Emigration is climbing to hights never seen. Rather then pull an ostrich face the problem.