Do you know people who will emigrate if labour win?

[groyard]

This is making me all very stressed. Trying not to freak myself out over future socio-economic ramifications for the UK if there is a wider trend of “brain drain”.

Brother and BIL have both said that if Labour win they will be emigrating with their wives and children.

I’ve heard similar sentiment from others but assume (hope) this is hyperbole.

Just to say, none of the people mentioned are wealthy but just about comfortable. Both highly skilled and in demand internationally.

It hardly seems worth wasting time on someone who can actually look at the current government and think they have managed the economy competently.

Liz Truss has caused far more damage to the British economy than any almost other Prime Minister in the last half century. Almost as much as Brexit. Also the Tories. Also the early 90s recession.

And TBH I half think you must be a bot not a real person anyway.

Is that all you can say??? You are a bot. It’s honestly pathetic. Jesus Christ.

I hate to say it but that isn't the most articulate reply!

Lol, no. And if anyone does, please feel free to do so..

and history tells us we did fail under Labour before. In 1976, we didn’t have basic services such as electricity and non collections.

Oh hello again. Are you talking about the 3 day week of 73/4 under Ted Heath - a Conservative PM?

You know I am talking about our country melting down during the Winter of Discontent

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_of_Discontent

Letd talk about Labours fiscal track record.

She said a lot more than that. Interesting how you went for the low hanging fruit there and didn't offer any arguments in rebuttal of the points she made. Which says it all I suppose.

LOL this made me laugh

When you've more than enough, decent people build a bigger table not a higher wall.
Greed is an ugly, ugly thing.

Letd talk about Labours fiscal track record

Please do- shall we talk about how this Conservative government have accrued more debt than every previous Labour administration combined? The Conservatives cannot pretend to have a better fiscal than Labour as the facts show the opposite.

That is very very true. And in a utopia, where everyone plays fair and is respectful, that would work brilliantly. I’d love that. Who wouldn’t.

Unfortunately, we live in a society / world where when people build bigger tables not higher walls, the tables get shit on by pigeons taking the piss and ruining it for everybody.

’whiny, money obsessed bitch’

Such aggro

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/may/09/liam-byrne-apology-letter-there-is-no-money-labour-general-election

I think OP should ask MN to amend the title of the thread.

It is when not if.

I do know of one person who will emigrate.

Sunak.

It is part of a long running treasury joke going back to the 1930s - I would have assumed you knew that.

"Leaving the Treasury after Labour’s victory in the 1964 election, the outgoing Tory chancellor Reginald Maudling wrote a note for his replacement, Jim Callaghan, or possibly (accounts vary) spoke to him in person: “Good luck, old cock, sorry to leave it in such a mess.” Callaghan thought he meant the office, not the economy; and while Labour did go on to win more seats at the next election, Maudling’s self-deprecating joke had very little to do with it."

https://www.newstatesman.com/comment/2023/04/conservative-obsession-afraid-no-money-note-says-labour

Were you bothered about highly paid earners leaving UK after Brexit ? Or the huge number of companies who’ve had to move part of their business to the EU because of it ? One hasn’t happened yet and there’s research to suggest it doesn’t in reality, one has 🤷🏻‍♂️

@Polishedshoesalways

"People just stopped working"

You're funny 🤣

@Polishedshoesalways that’s actually uninformed bollocks. Why not cite unbiased research to prove your point ? Not the Telegraph or Mail or Tufton St funded crap btw. In fact if anything the opposite is true…

Do you go looking for 'unbiased research' to cite before believing anything you read in the Guardian? Just wondering.

@Polishedshoesalways must have lived in an alternate world to me in the 70s. People didn't stop working. Some people went on strike. Just like the train drivers and doctors did recently.

"Our main finding is that the UK economy has grown with a similar pace under both parties, however Labour governments seem to do better in tackling recessions and achieve a more consistent performance."

https://reunido.uniovi.es/index.php/EBL/article/view/15231

This just isn’t true. Labour have repeatedly failed us and the economy.

That's not what I said. Has anywhere lost revenue from high earners leaving a country because of tax rates? High earners leaving isn't the same as a brain drain btw, many of our best researchers are on 5 figure salaries.

Nonsensical argument.

VAT on invoices doesn't go to the institution who realises the invoice you know?

The VAT raised in private school fees will not go to the schools - it goes into government funds for allocation / balancing the books.

Charging VAT on university fees has almost no connection to funding universities. If universities need more funding from students the fees will rise directly, not via VAT.