Do you know people who will emigrate if labour win?

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This is making me all very stressed. Trying not to freak myself out over future socio-economic ramifications for the UK if there is a wider trend of “brain drain”.

Brother and BIL have both said that if Labour win they will be emigrating with their wives and children.

I’ve heard similar sentiment from others but assume (hope) this is hyperbole.

Just to say, none of the people mentioned are wealthy but just about comfortable. Both highly skilled and in demand internationally.

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"Yes probably us. We'd give it time to see how far they go with taxes but dh said he's not continuing running a stressful business if it wasn't worth his while- he'd just get a regular job.. but the truth is we'd leave for a better tax situation. He's in the top 0.1%. We'd keep a little flat here."

"Where are you going then? And why bother keeping a flat?"

Inheritance tax much lower in USA. Not that I'd want to go. Would keep a small flat as have family here and would always want a base here.

May I ask why you resigned? Sorry to be nosy, I’m not surprised by anything in your post. I really feel for everyone working in the NHS at current. Overstressed and overworked and battered from all sides.

Ah I see. I didn’t know that about inheritance tax in the US, but I believe all taxes in the US are lower. Although healthcare seems crazy expensive.

General thought form our friends and their young adult's most of whom are very skilled public sector health ( GP, consultants, physios , radiographers) and teachers / academics is that if the tories win they will be off asap. So no to your question the opposite.

I won't be retraining any time soon as I work in one of the sectors least likely to be replaced.
The engineering side of it will probably be replaced by AI too, if not entirely then largely as many things will be.

I doubt many will emigrate over the result in July.
Some may look for contract work in Middle East or elsewhere. But not permanently emigrate.
For Medics and Nurses there has been a steady drift to Australia and Canada. This may accelerate as some areas are not helping recruitment.
Oxford's latest idea in it's battle against the car is to reduce staff parking at John Radcliffe Hospital. Bus service is not good at the moment.
The drift might become a flood.

The opposite. The only people I know who are freaking out are people who think their taxes might go up. And the only ones I know of do not have voting rights and nor so they care about people who have less.

The brain drain happened with Brexit and IR35

This. I can't say I was particularly grateful to New Labour at the time, but those were the best years of my life and the best shape the country's ever been in during my lifetime. I'd be back like a shot if I wasn't priced out of a country that (currently) sucks anyway.

You keep telling yourself that. Problem is with AI? Oh wait - it is vulnerable to cyber attack and crime. Who knew?

All these people going on about leaving.

Why do they think anyone cares? They can’t go soon enough for me.

Why on earth would you consider the US? My husband is American and so we could easily emigrate there, but I can't think of anything worse! Terrifying gun laws, terrifying abortion laws, hugely divided society. BIL is a high earner in a similar industry to the ones you mentioned. Crap annual leave, crap work life balance, very easy to be fired. Massive house with a pool but rarely sees much beyond his office.

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No, but......

Just imagine a Britain where all the flag shaggers, Tommy Robinson lovers, that poundshop Rod Stewart twat who owns Pimlico Plumbers, Mad Lozzer Fox & Julia Hartley Brewer or whaterverhernameis, Katie Hopkins, Reform voters, the Gammonati, golliwog collectors, the entirety of GB News presenters, Carol Malone, Jim Davidson and Dan bloody Wooton JUST FUCK OFF SOMEWHERE ELSE!!

Aaaaaaahhhhhh...........a girl can dream, right?

The Infamous Ingham Family vloggers have apparently left the country because they are sick of paying taxes and are 'allowed to be rich' in Dubai🙄

I think there is a bit of scaremongering going on. The Conservative party like to make out that anyone that is even remotely we'll off will be taxed to the hilt via Labour. The reality is the very very rich and corrupt will be targeted. Conservatives wouldn't go near the corrupt because so many of them are. The poor have got poorer whilst the very rich have got richer.

Also think some people suppose they are going to be hampered by Labour in terms of business growth /dreams of riches.I can see that it is not as bright and shiny a campaign at the moment as Blair's UK PLC. Labour need to do a better job there.

I'd rather live in a country where we all contribute to a better society.

Salary over here for a position that was recruiting. Middling position. 100k. USA 250K. Same role, same job spec, same everything. Lower taxes. Can’t see why the talented graduates move. Stumped.

Good riddance if they do. I am sure they are all replaceable. I'd be more worried about business moving abroad, but Brexit was the real driver for that and it's already happened.

Thinking of emigrating but not because of a Labour election win. Partner said he wanted to retire to outside UK. But equally we’re under no illusion that the grass will be greener elsewhere. If we go it will be to look after elderly family, they’ve done a lot for us, so time to give something back.

Haven’t read the full thread, but I’m confused - as far as I know the only tax changes Labour have said they plan to make is to add VAT to school fees, remove non-dom tax loops, and tax tech giants more. Last year RR specifically said they weren’t going to increase income tax. So why would people emigrate? People are really going to leave the country because their school fees go up? I’d be more tempted to leave the country because the Tories have fucked us and we are on our knees. I am a high earner and haven’t seen a single labour proposal that will see me lose money, but genuinely interested as to whether I have missed something? (I do suspect they may reverse the NI cuts but that’s not a lot of money either way for you high earners.)

Sounds like heaven💕

The mindless greed has gone on too long. Public services are basically dust at this point. Everything is being engineered to profit the few and even the few aren't happy as despite their wealth, they still have to live in the same world as all the poor with their misery and despair. Turns out, money isn't everything.

It is all bollocks. Like you say, maybe a few will go but ultimately, this is a relatively secure country compared to other parts of the world, relatively stable democracy, relatively sheltered from the worst vestiges of climate change and a country with beautiful countryside. People will try and dress it up that "all their friends are leaving" but even if true, it's anecdotal evidence and nothing more.

Keir Starmer has turned Labour into a safe option for wavering voters and whilst it is a shame to see some of the more progressive policies dropped, it's a price worth paying for the change that this country desperately needs.

And Giles Coren. Hopefully he fucks off by being fired from a canon. Into the sun.

I remember when Paul Daniels and Phil Collins said this!

...unfortunately, they didn't leave.🤣

I'm not denying salaries are higher and house prices are often cheaper depending on where you are. BIL and his wife are multi-millionaires. But I still don't think the quality of life is as good. And personally not a fan of lots of aspects of the culture. They have this massive house on a sprawling complex of massive houses and there's just nothing. Not even a corner shop. You have to drive everywhere. Just seems kind of soulless to me.

I think these people just buy / bought additional houses in warmer places, whilst keeping their UK one for their benefit. And why not.