Do you know people who will emigrate if labour win?

[groyard]

This is making me all very stressed. Trying not to freak myself out over future socio-economic ramifications for the UK if there is a wider trend of “brain drain”.

Brother and BIL have both said that if Labour win they will be emigrating with their wives and children.

I’ve heard similar sentiment from others but assume (hope) this is hyperbole.

Just to say, none of the people mentioned are wealthy but just about comfortable. Both highly skilled and in demand internationally.

You know them all well do you?

I don’t plan to emigrate as such as I am a first generation immigrant here lol, however I would likely consider more seriously now international moves through my job, if Labour starts increasing taxes, benefits, etc. I am a high rate tax payer and pay enough taxes as it is already.

@groyard hello rishi. have you dried off yet?

So they are happy with the way this country is going at the moment ? Unbelievable!

Well ta ta to them. Hope the door doesn't whack them on the arse on the way out.

I'm old enough to remember Jim Davidson & Cilla Black 'threatening' to leave the country if Labour got in in 1997. Fuckers stayed, didn't they? Not impressed by this sort of threat - don't let the door hit your arse on the way out.

No I don't. I know people that want to if the tories get back in.

Is it really so hard to believe that a qualified Dr earning 45k in the UK might be pissed off. Do you understand the hours that are worked? How much they care for the people who are becoming more abusive more demanding and like those in this thread say that it should just be accepted. Here's an idea why don't rude people fuck off. In the top 5 western countries 45k is not even conceivable for a Dr who has qualified. Let alone working in tech you do not understand the digital brain drain happening. Even bigger then that its the scientist and academics that left with Brexit. Did you know the biggest areas supporting brexit across England were Labour. So no no I don't trust Labour or tories to have the intellectual capability to make this work. I like David miliband and David Cameron. Would like a new party to form that's,proud to be English proud to be multi cultural, supports women and Men. Leaves LBTQ people alone doesn't teach gender identity to children but gives full sex education and menstruation education to all children over 11. I want to pay less tax and be able to pay towards my healthcare when need be. I want people like me who grew up with nothing amd fought for everything to not be described as super rich, you must be crazy. I want the benefits system to be looked at I think the amount of money we spend on those with disabilities is too low and we focus on maintaining a minium standard of living rather then being supported to live and tale part. The triple lock system is enraging it feels like the older generations hate us. The matainance system is unfair and women get brutalised on sepration no matter the headlines. I want to live somewhere dynamic buisness friendly liberal but with Conservative elements. But I'd settle for people in this thread who are Rude, walking into the nearest hospital dentist, school or university and telling the staff them they are not worth a higher salary or even to keep more of their current salary. That they should fuck off. I'd love to see what happens next. I also wish Dr's could deny services to abusive people. The situation is shit.

Yes! My medic friends are all looking at Australia and Dubai. The VAT on the kids school fees is the final nail in the coffin.

Lots of friends in finance are considering moving to satellite office and their asserts and their families overseas.

Op, so many pp on here do not seem to realise the reality outside their own street and seem to to limited to simply not understanding that every professional tax payer that leaves will be one less paying for their kids schools and hospitals and when you multiply that - or we see capital flight en masse - our country will look very different in five years.

We are also looking at our options.

I can only assume these threads are started by Tory activists. I can think of plenty of reasons to emigrate if that’s your thing. A Labour government wouldn’t be one of them.

Britain is on its knees. It’s time for a change.

Lol. No 🤣

People make this threat at every single election and I bet almost none follow through.

I know two social workers and one GP who are planning to go if Labour DON'T get in.

I also know of a fair few men who would choose not to work away from their young families if the cost of living was more affordable. One of them, a relative, was poised to come home a little while back but then their mortgage rate shot up so him and his wife decided he basically had no choice but to stay offshore. It's depressing, I know a whole generation of kids who've never known what its like to have Dad home full time.

Love the Tory HQ plants coming on here, thinking they are being oh so subtle and crafty and starting anti Labour threads

We see you.

We see your desperation.

The depressing part of this is the assumption that things are going to get ‘better’ with Starmer, like they really can’t consider that it actually might get a whole lot worse!!!

Well, we thought about moving back when the Brexit vote was and we are still here.

First, with not being in the EU there is not easy going abroad anymore unless you work can sponsor you to go somewhere else for a couple of years. Or you possess a niche skill where countries are throwing visas at you for. I always love when people say they immigrate and then realise the mountain of paperwork to even get a work permit for a couple of years, no spouse permit, huge private costs for schools and health cover.

Then, you are ripping children out from their lives as they know it. It was actually the main reason for us staying, DD was 9 and while she is bi-lingual there was no way she would easily have made the move.

No.

I did know a few who left after Brexit - but they were foreign nationals or married to them and it wasn't straight after vote it was gradual and it was a few other things as well and they didn't threatening it just quietly got on with sorting it.

In fact everyone I know who has left UK- tends to quietly plan research and then go when it suits them.

Exactly. The people we actually need eg doctors and teachers will leave if we don't get the Tories out.

No.

Unless Labour inexplicably replace Starmer with Liz Truss I really can't see how things could get worse.

Doctors are leaving because the taxes in this country are become ridiculous, their school fees are rocketing and like many of us there are amazing opportunities elsewhere - that offer a much better all round experience.

Anyway, where are they going to go to? We can't move around freely anymore thanks to Brexit. Thank you for that, Tories.

No. I’m glad I don’t know people like this because I would consider them to be dickheads.

People say all sorts. It's mostly hot air.

In the immediate aftermath of the Brexit referendum I swear half of liberal-left Remainer mumsnet was going to emigrate rather than stay in such a small minded, insular, racist, toxic, nationalist country full of knuckle dragging bigots. (Weird that both Scotland and Wales have been run by actual nationalist devolved governments, but it was never them the bile was directed at, only ever the English.

I seem to remember that on account of not speaking any other languages fluently and not being in a position to move to any of the EU countries where they'd be financially worse off, which was almost all of them, they weren't actually planning on seeking refuge in the cuddly bosom of the EU. They mostly talked about Australia, NZ and Canada. Which is funny really, because all the things they hated and feared about post-Brexit Britain (restructuring of the NHS and a move to private health insurance, no such thing as freedom of movement, a much harder line on immigration in general and a less generous welfare state) is exactly the kind of system they could expect in all of those countries.

I'll hazard a guess that 99% of those people are still here and still grumbling. Meanwhile many EU countries are seeing a massive upsurge in populist, hard right wing politics of the sort the Remainers swore we'd see here.

And here we are with the softest, most left wing Tory government we've ever had.

No they’re leaving because the NHS is shit to work in- and many doctors don’t privately educate.