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Michael - The Film 2026

196 replies

BeigeandGreige · 22/04/2026 22:06

Wanted to start a thread about the new Michael Jackson film, just got home from watching it!

I don’t know why the critics are slating it, I absolutely loved it! Yes, it didn’t show his whole life picture but I think people are forgetting this was just showing one era of it … there is no way you could fit his life story into a 2 hour film!

What’s your thoughts if you’ve seen it ???

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Eastereggschocolateisthebest · 27/04/2026 13:36

Itsnearlyxmas · Today 12:49
Michael Jackson waa acquitted on all counts in a court of law. Jimmy Saville was dead before the claims were made.

So that would follow you couldn’t possibly believe Saville was guilty - not having been to court like Michael..yes?

grizzlyoldbear · 27/04/2026 13:37

I think you have to seperate the art from the person.
If Caravaggio was found to be a pedo would we never look at a painting again? In fact, he did murder someone I believe

Eastereggschocolateisthebest · 27/04/2026 13:39

Araminta1003 · 27/04/2026 10:14

Also on the race element, much has been written about abuse within black families (I am talking here about the physical and emotional abuse by Joseph Jackson within the film). Obviously it is all within historical context and going back to abuse propagated by white men on black slaves and then continued and absorbed generationally (poverty too is linked to abuse). I do not feel that comfortable commenting on this element from a white point of view, nor do I think using the term “whitewash” as some of the press are doing is comfortable either.

Regardless of what anyone thinks or does not think, the musical genius and its influence both during its time and subsequently can never be erased anyway. So exactly how society and within that different communities deal with the whole controversy Iong term, is interesting.
However, going to watch the film does not equate to affirming abuse in any shape or form. One can go and think about it all and have a different view on the whole thing.
I do not think it is a coincidence this film was made now when Trump is in power and being are reexamining cancel culture and wokeism more widely. You cannot just cancel stuff because it is “uncomfortable” especially if it has had actual influence on stuff that goes after.

So you watch Jim ll fix it and listen to gary glitter do you?

you ca acknowledge the genius but do t give money to the estate by paying to see this film

Eastereggschocolateisthebest · 27/04/2026 13:41

grizzlyoldbear · 27/04/2026 13:37

I think you have to seperate the art from the person.
If Caravaggio was found to be a pedo would we never look at a painting again? In fact, he did murder someone I believe

I don’t think we’d promote him

Itsnearlyxmas · 27/04/2026 13:48

Eastereggschocolateisthebest · 27/04/2026 13:36

Itsnearlyxmas · Today 12:49
Michael Jackson waa acquitted on all counts in a court of law. Jimmy Saville was dead before the claims were made.

So that would follow you couldn’t possibly believe Saville was guilty - not having been to court like Michael..yes?

I don't believe I said that, no. You are putting words in my mouth now to suit your own narrative & clearly have nothing better to do today than argue with me. I haven't said anybody is innocent. I have simply pointed out we do not 100% know what went on. You have your own opinion, which is simply that, an opinion.

Ferriswheel101 · 27/04/2026 13:52

Despite growing up loving his music I can't listen anymore and don't understand why it's being played on stations like Radio 2. At the very least he had sleep overs with young boys, that raises enough red flags. I do believe victims who've spoken out and it's shocking to me that people are able ignore their testimony.

Araminta1003 · 27/04/2026 13:59

They did try and include some of the abuse allegations, but the NDAs would not allow it in the Final Cut so they finished the film early. None of us know what was included or was not. None of us know whether they can legally make Michael 2 or not. It is clear there are a lot of legal implications in all of this.

The estate could choose to give some of the money raised by the film to good causes, including charities looking after abuse victims, if it chooses to.

The art is separate from the man. We need not deprive people of the music and its influence.
It is also very era of our time to portray him as different, potentially autistic (just like the Other Bennet Sister who also has an arguably emotionally abusive mother/tiger parent selling their daughter off).

The interpretation given in this film of Michael Jackson in itself reflects our era.

Fizbosshoes · 27/04/2026 14:02

Regarding why parents would take a payout.....you think they would be able to match MJ power, influence and money to get the best lawyers...? As well as maybe wanting to protect their child from having to re-live a traumatic experience in a court, surrounded by media....? The media circus at his eventual trial was insane.

In one of the documentaries MJs attorney was interviewed. He was talking about how MJ was scared he was going to be found guilty, and his response they'd find every bit of dirt on the accusers family and present them as unreliable. He had a team of people checking their school records, medical records, benefits etc Nothing about finding any evidence to prove he didnt do it

Whatwouldyoudoif · 27/04/2026 14:03

AutumnLover1990 · 27/04/2026 12:21

As a poster mentioned a few posts up,why would a parent take the money and not take it further? I never understood this? God forbid I was in that situation no way would I be accepting a pay off. That's sick 🤢

That's exactly my point- if your child had been a victim no amount of money would matter- you'd want that person locked up forever wouldnt you?

westcott · 27/04/2026 14:07

Paris didn’t support the film, said it included lies and was sugar coated.

Whatwouldyoudoif · 27/04/2026 14:13

westcott · 27/04/2026 14:07

Paris didn’t support the film, said it included lies and was sugar coated.

would love to know what his 3 kids make of the allegations

amibeingaknob · 27/04/2026 14:19

Whatwouldyoudoif · 27/04/2026 14:03

That's exactly my point- if your child had been a victim no amount of money would matter- you'd want that person locked up forever wouldnt you?

I think families were threatened, groomed, manipulated and bullied, so I can see how a settlement could happen in that context. It might have been the best they could get - so it is in some way a nod to the fact he did it.

However, even going by your narrative that some of the parents were bad people, that doesn't mean those children weren't abused - just that maybe their parents wanted to capitalise on it (by your narrative). Personally I dont believe that. I believe he intentionally chose very poor, broken families, probably with histories and things they didn't want out there, and he and his minions broke them.

Jordy Chandler never spoke to his mother again after court. He is an adult now and said she sold him and can't forgive her. She said the same - wracked with guilt, says that she basically feels she sold her son to a pedophile, didn't protect him, and says she is a horrible mother and understands why he will never forgive her. I don't think she is - i think she enjoyed the attention a global megastar was giving her and her son - she was seduced by it, and when she realised the machine did its thing to shut it and her down. Heartbreaking.

Watchingthechaseagain · 27/04/2026 14:24

@Whatwouldyoudoif100%. I loved it.

Araminta1003 · 27/04/2026 14:24

That is not what I heard when I listened to Paris Jackson’s post. She just said the film is Hollywood/Fantasy etc, so not real and her feedback was not included. It is a biopic, not a documentary. It caters to his fan base and to celebrate the music.
A biopic is a film that dramatises the real life of a person but is not real. Whilst based on true stories initially as inspiration, they are primarily entertainment products. And that is what this film is. Suspend disbelief. One can argue it is not emotionally true whatsoever. But then many biopics are not,

Eastereggschocolateisthebest · 27/04/2026 14:30

Itsnearlyxmas · 27/04/2026 13:48

I don't believe I said that, no. You are putting words in my mouth now to suit your own narrative & clearly have nothing better to do today than argue with me. I haven't said anybody is innocent. I have simply pointed out we do not 100% know what went on. You have your own opinion, which is simply that, an opinion.

You didn’t say it but it follows you couldn’t possibly believe the Saville stuff as it hasn’t been through a court which is your benchmark for believing Jackson is innocent - you lead by saying he was acquitted

your ploy is to deflect by trying to demean me - no sale I’m afraid

I'm shocked anyone would go and see the film when they are not sure he is innocent of being a predatory paedophile

Eastereggschocolateisthebest · 27/04/2026 14:32

amibeingaknob · 27/04/2026 14:19

I think families were threatened, groomed, manipulated and bullied, so I can see how a settlement could happen in that context. It might have been the best they could get - so it is in some way a nod to the fact he did it.

However, even going by your narrative that some of the parents were bad people, that doesn't mean those children weren't abused - just that maybe their parents wanted to capitalise on it (by your narrative). Personally I dont believe that. I believe he intentionally chose very poor, broken families, probably with histories and things they didn't want out there, and he and his minions broke them.

Jordy Chandler never spoke to his mother again after court. He is an adult now and said she sold him and can't forgive her. She said the same - wracked with guilt, says that she basically feels she sold her son to a pedophile, didn't protect him, and says she is a horrible mother and understands why he will never forgive her. I don't think she is - i think she enjoyed the attention a global megastar was giving her and her son - she was seduced by it, and when she realised the machine did its thing to shut it and her down. Heartbreaking.

Well said

fundamentallyauthentic · 27/04/2026 14:45

amibeingaknob · 27/04/2026 14:19

I think families were threatened, groomed, manipulated and bullied, so I can see how a settlement could happen in that context. It might have been the best they could get - so it is in some way a nod to the fact he did it.

However, even going by your narrative that some of the parents were bad people, that doesn't mean those children weren't abused - just that maybe their parents wanted to capitalise on it (by your narrative). Personally I dont believe that. I believe he intentionally chose very poor, broken families, probably with histories and things they didn't want out there, and he and his minions broke them.

Jordy Chandler never spoke to his mother again after court. He is an adult now and said she sold him and can't forgive her. She said the same - wracked with guilt, says that she basically feels she sold her son to a pedophile, didn't protect him, and says she is a horrible mother and understands why he will never forgive her. I don't think she is - i think she enjoyed the attention a global megastar was giving her and her son - she was seduced by it, and when she realised the machine did its thing to shut it and her down. Heartbreaking.

He has never spoken publicly about the allegation, has he, as an adult? Neither has she (recently).

amibeingaknob · 27/04/2026 14:51

Yes more than 30 years on he is still fearful of attacks from crazy fans. How awful. Poor man.

Itsnearlyxmas · 27/04/2026 14:59

Eastereggschocolateisthebest · 27/04/2026 14:30

You didn’t say it but it follows you couldn’t possibly believe the Saville stuff as it hasn’t been through a court which is your benchmark for believing Jackson is innocent - you lead by saying he was acquitted

your ploy is to deflect by trying to demean me - no sale I’m afraid

I'm shocked anyone would go and see the film when they are not sure he is innocent of being a predatory paedophile

😅🤣 are you generally that easily shocked? As many others on here have said - it was about the music.

amibeingaknob · 27/04/2026 15:01

@Itsnearlyxmas Its really really not funny.

likelysuspect · 27/04/2026 15:01

amibeingaknob · 27/04/2026 09:21

mmm...I never thought of the race element. One of the first black superstars. I can see that that is important for black culture. But also the same could be said of Bill Cosby. For black people it was the first time a rich successful black man was shown on TV. For many black people, it inspired them as prior it was unheard of to see a rich, successful, career driven, educated black family.

MJ was a genuis and hugely successful but I hate all this 'first black superstar' (and I know you said one of the first)

Same with Bill Cosby

Has everyone forgotten or ignored all the black stars and performers and ground breakers who came before them?

fundamentallyauthentic · 27/04/2026 15:03

amibeingaknob · 27/04/2026 14:51

Yes more than 30 years on he is still fearful of attacks from crazy fans. How awful. Poor man.

Who are you talking about?

IDontHateRainbows · 27/04/2026 15:04

flabbypea · 25/04/2026 12:00

There’s a saying isn’t there. Innocent until proven guilty. Last time I checked Micheal was never charged with the allegations against him. I don’t believe for one second that he abused children but some do and that’s what opinion is. But it doesn’t give you the right to judge others for going to watch the film and love it or still listen to his songs. Why you would even comment on a thread about a film that you have no interest in watching baffles me no end.

Explain how Jordy chandler could accurately depict the markings on MJ's penis if he hadn't actually seen his penis up close.

amibeingaknob · 27/04/2026 15:08

fundamentallyauthentic · 27/04/2026 15:03

Who are you talking about?

Jordy Chandler. His brother did an interview saying he went underground and is still deeply traumatised. Fans have been known to throw poo at his house. He has to keep moving and changing social circles. Like hes the criminal not the victim.

likelysuspect · 27/04/2026 15:10

AutumnLover1990 · 27/04/2026 12:21

As a poster mentioned a few posts up,why would a parent take the money and not take it further? I never understood this? God forbid I was in that situation no way would I be accepting a pay off. That's sick 🤢

Could be several reasons, they might have felt they didnt want to put their child through a legal process if they could get recompense in any other way, so took that route.
Perhaps there wasnt the likelihood of conviction (and they might have been right given what happened 20 years later) and so they thought this was the best bet to have recompense

The idea of 'justice' is quite a modern thing. In times gone past, the 'punishment' for a lot of crimes, including assaults would have been monetary. There are records from Saxon times and Normans also had systems like this, where you paid x amount if someone had lost an arm or you caused this or that effect on someone

Other countries still now even have monetary fines for assaults and violent crimes rather than inprisonment.

I see this as the same and I might see that this sets my child up for good accomodation, eduation and therapy if they had that money. Rather than a rather hollow guilty outcome (if that ever came)

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