Michael - The Film 2026

[BeigeandGreige]

Wanted to start a thread about the new Michael Jackson film, just got home from watching it!

I don’t know why the critics are slating it, I absolutely loved it! Yes, it didn’t show his whole life picture but I think people are forgetting this was just showing one era of it … there is no way you could fit his life story into a 2 hour film!

What’s your thoughts if you’ve seen it ???

I'm curious to know how you 100% find him guilty. Were you there?

@Whatwouldyoudoif MJ was obviously an incredibly troubled man, but guilty of child abuse, i just cant see it.

how can you not see it - he admitted having little boys in his bed???

how can you not make the connection

the payoff was the parents - and surely they would have been responsible for court costs if they were lying

how do you explain that kids could identify unusual markings on his genital area

@Eastereggschocolateisthebest
agreed. I find it hard to believe that people are ok with it, they just focus on his music and don't care about what hes done. Especially taking their kids. So it must be that people don't believe he is a pedophile. I mean the evidence is huge. There are heaps of documentaries about it, all very compelling, from all different angles - includign the mothers, the cops, the social workers on the case (they are the ones that convinced me without doubt - I am one myself so I know what they would be lookign for). I dont want to discuss it here, but the fact that there was a specific detail in the abuse reports from those boys, and these boys don't even know each other, that just couldn't be made up - unfortunately abusers do have 'preferences' and the details are there in the court reports. Also the police interview with one of those poor boys who was only 11 or 12. You can't act that. There is not a doubt in my mind after seeing all of that. So why are some people so convinced otherwise?

As a poster mentioned a few posts up,why would a parent take the money and not take it further? I never understood this? God forbid I was in that situation no way would I be accepting a pay off. That's sick 🤢

@Illegally18

I do struggle with that - I grew up in the 70-80s and I know my parents would have let it go on for a day and then said ok that’s enough it’s not the real world - come on now

maybe it’s different in America…his status allowed him to do awful things

then he would drop the boys once they became too grown up for him - not interested in girls

for me it totally fits with his childhood being taken away

Yea agree - surely you would want a prosecution - maybe they were scared they’d be liable for costs if they couldn’t prove it

@amibeingaknob I know - think of a poster on here saying “I think my boyfriend is having young boys over In his bed” there would be a flurry of - red flag LTB, protect your kids, better safe than sorry - how could you - yet here they are willing to turn a blind eye

the police who did the interviews were very sure Gavin was telling the truth - and the thing about the unusual markings they could all identify - they were aghast when case was dropped as they knew they had a provable case

no one had a problem believing Saville

I think America is different - maybe the parents thought that they would get money either way so why put themselves through it - I think it was the dad

or maybe the parents had unsavory things they didn’t want coming out

Maybe they knew they would be hated - they would have had death threats

What do you think about Saville? Were you there?

I think you mean you’ll excuse it

only reason he isn’t cancelled is because too may people are relying on the bank roll and legacy - people with power

Mmm

im sure you believe Saville did it

what a cop out

To try and wake people up and not give more money to his estate

do you have trouble believing Saville did it?

And Janet initially came out condoning Michael for child abused and then got hushed up - she didn’t seem to have a problem believing it

Michael Jackson waa acquitted on all counts in a court of law. Jimmy Saville was dead before the claims were made.

Do you apply the same ambivalence to Prince Andrew ? He paid it off to avoid a court case, I’ve seen similar comments that it doesn’t prove guilt.
deliberate choice to use his title, the royal family shouldn’t get to pretend he’s nothing to do with them

And we now know that some of the witnesses were actually victims but couldn’t even admit that to themselves - that whole thing was a circus

you know full well the American court system is not fair - OJ? Was he innocent too?

What would you say if a poster shared their boyfriend was sleeping with little boys in his bed?

Thats not true because not everything came to court for various reasons, and he also died before some could come out.

Regardless, I find this argument baffling. Surely people understand that very powerful people - especially at that time but even now - very much do not get charged or go to prison for any or all their crimes, or when they do it takes forever to happen. It doesnt mean the crimes didn't happen. Weinstein, Epstein, Prince Andrew, MJ, Bill Cosby etc etc. Surely people know by now that courts of law aren't always fair and really mean jack shit - especially when it comes to powerful rich people.

Child abuse cases are notoriously difficult to prosecute anyway, so there's that on top. Absolutely doesnt mean it didn't happen.

The parents and the staff were threatened by MJ's heavies. Its in a documentary. The housekeeper was threatened with being shot. One family - Gavin's I believe - suddenly disappeared, and his mum had been saying to friends and family that she feared for her life. The bodyguards were told to keep quiet and threatened and then they in turn were told to threaten others who knew about it.
Its all in the documentaries, and court reports which you can see online.

@amibeingaknob i agree

even just the boys being in his bed - mumsneters would usually turn their back on a person for that even if it was their own dad without a second thought …not here

and we know that happened

an awful lot of people are relying ont he MJ cash cow so he will never be held accountable

Quite. Sickening.

A PP said it isn't condoning child abuse to watch though. I couldn't disagree more.

I am not saying he was innocent. I am saying i don't know either way any more than the rest of you do.

But we do

leaving Neverland? How could that have aired if it was true - don’t you think the MJ machine would have stopped it

And usually that would be enough on mumsnet

im so aghast at people who would usually out their grandma for kissing their child on the lips turning away from the truth because it’s convenient

Mmmm

Turning a blind eye when it’s suits

why didn’t he ever befriend little girls and have them in bed? And why did he cast aside boys once they were hitting pubity