No Time To Die…SPOILERS

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We’ll…that was bloody good!

I was disappointed, I didn’t really like it. I can see why people would enjoy, whilst it was very long it had something for everyone. I enjoyed the action, I thought they’d kill bond off at the end. Acting was good - except that Nomi seemed a bit of an afterthought. Rami was wasted.

Daniel Craig was a great Bond. Not sure if they’ll reboot or continue with someone as 007? Either way I’m sure something will continue.

@brokenbiscuitsx

I saw it the first night it came out was so excited but… I didn’t like it. DP was also disappointed. In all the Daniel Craig films I’d put it after Casino Royale, Skyfall and Spectre and before Quantum of Solace.

I thought the intro dragged and there were good bits but it could honestly have done without the whole live story/family/him being a father bit. I was bored at the end, there was a point where I didn’t care if Bond died or not I was just ‘meh’

I completely agree...I was almost bored halfway through and was thinking how long the film was! There was a lot of action and violence and the storyline was weak, not enough twists or sun-plots. I've watched Casino, Spectre and Skyfall multiple times but I'm not sure I would watched NTTD again. I would rate it just above Quantum too!

I thought it was Ludicrous

The star was great the extraction of the mad Professor from Cuba with Paloma was good fun

I honestly have no idea what Rami Malek was aiming for - he eradicated spectre and killed Blofeld he’d had his revenge then suddenly he was going in for mass extermination world domination all from his doctor evil style super island. I had no idea what was going on in the island what were all those people doing in the acid water?

The Range Rover chase in the woods I was thinking again what’s the point of all this

I just kept thinking of all those nameless baddies on malek’s payroll getting gunned down One after one while he didn’t even have a scratch on him thinking back to that part of Austin powers where they had flashes to the families of the fallen bad guys.

I didn’t actually mind the ending but I guess this now allows for a full reboot with new suite of actors - or they could just leave it alone but we know that will never happen

Think I’ll watch skyfall later - now that’s a great bond film

The weapon, Project Heracles - why didn't M realise its capacity for mass destruction before it was stolen?

I liked it, but I didn't love it. Casino Royale is still my favourite and Daniel Craig is my favourite Bond.

Meh. Parts of it were really enjoyable, but having a small child along for about a third of the movie really jarred.

@shutthedamndoor

Meh. Parts of it were really enjoyable, but having a small child along for about a third of the movie really jarred.

Yes. She was very cute but when she appeared I thought oh no, as a child changes the dynamic. I just want a good spy film to be honest not some sort of family drama!

Also maybe I missed something but Madeleine told Bond she wasn’t his and then when Rami’s character just casually said ‘your daughter’ Bond didn’t flinch. Maybe he knew but you’d think there would be some reaction?! Maybe I fell asleep 😂

Daniel Craig has been an amazing Bond (the best imo) not sure now there’s no more Bond how they will continue? Maybe they will continue with another numbered agent.

I'd give it 8/10. I'm glad it was a "traditional" Bond with glamorous locations and car chases, as after the pandemic I wouldn't have had the capacity to sit through a dark and brooding one.

I didn't like the use of the child for emotional suspense, I always feel it's a bit of a cheap thrill and as far as I recall they've kept children out of Bond movies before.

The last third had a bit of continuity issues, the point at which the Rami Malek character said he was selling the poison, I was like "what where did that come from? "

Plus the bit in the car where the daughter complained about multiple mosquito bites - feel that was meant to have gone somewhere and when they dropped that bit they should have cut out the mosquito chat as well.

Like others I loved the Paloma character, she was under-utilised but fantastic. I feel they've boxed themselves into a bit of a hole with Nomi - if she's not the new Bond, then why position the character like that? Also her character wasn't given that much to do except be annoyed by Bond all the time so hard to warm to her.

However overall pretty good, it was only about 2hr 30 in that I started to have had enough and the last 15 minutes were dramatic enough to sit through.

Sorry just remembered another bit that annoyed me.Dr Swann wearing high heels when they did the escape bit from the house. They were having a casual breakfast, the place was in the middle of nowhere, would she seriously have picked up a pair of strappy sandals in that scenario?

Yes Ana de Armas (Paloma) is a great actress she’s brilliant in Knives Out (which also stars Daniel Craig)

@rookiemere

Sorry just remembered another bit that annoyed me.Dr Swann wearing high heels when they did the escape bit from the house. They were having a casual breakfast, the place was in the middle of nowhere, would she seriously have picked up a pair of strappy sandals in that scenario?

They were gorgeous shoes though! I looked them up after I came home but alas they're £££.

I thought the mosquitoes thing was going somewhere too! I did cry at the end music though (but I always do), then had to explain to dd why they used it - and why the references to “we have all the time in the world”…

I thought the mosquitos story would lead to her being affected by Heracles because Bond had touched her and she was somehow Blofeld's daughter! Far-fetched I know, but one doesn't watch Bond films for a taste of logic and reality!!

Yes wasn't mosquitos actually the heracles effect? Hence Bond accepting his death as he knew he'd never be able to hold his daughter?

@escapeyou

I'm in the car after leaving the cinema. I am not sure how I feel about the ending or where they will take the franchise and James Bond name now.

It was a long film. Some amazing stunts and a few laughs.

I love Daniel Craig. It won't be the same without him.

It’s definitely one to process isn’t it? I loved it, loved the love not sex angle- the earlier James Bonds were really predatory. Cuba scene was great. A couple of nods to the cheesy old Bond- ‘it blew his mind’ 🤦🏻‍♀️

I thought it was good, but not great. If you stayed to the end of the credits the traditional line:
James Bond will return
was included to he's either not dead or there will be a reboot.

There will definitely be a reboot. MGM won't want to give up one of their biggest money spinners!

I really enjoyed it. I think Bond will definitely be back and will hopefully be Rege Jean Page! The plot with the garden of death was like one of the Ian Fleming books (I think You Only Live Twice) where Bond is thought to be dead, with a funeral etc, but
somehow escaped and comes back in The Man with the Golden Gun.. after all, we didn’t see a body did we?.. Also, each incarnation of Bond sort of takes place in a different universe: Some bits (such as M) carry over, but others seem to start from scratch with each actor. So, he will be back, hopefully in about 2024 ..

I actually think the other guy from Bridgerton (the viscount himself) would make a good Bond. Though maybe he's a bit too similar to past Bonds.

RGP or say, Dev Patel, would be interesting choices to completely reinvent the character.

It does look like the movie paved the way towards a female Bond 007. I really can't get my head around the idea of a female Bond 007.

I don't think there's such thing as a female Bond in the context of the newer, non-book films. You can obviously make a spy film about a female 007 but then it's no different from Mission Impossible or other similar franchises. It's only a "Bond" film if you start remaking Goldeneye or Casino Royale again with a woman.

I loved parts of it - the cheesier parts, admittedly (stunts, gadgets, the team gagging back and forth, Paloma).

I associate Bond with escapism, and watching him juggle a toddler and work is altogether too close to home (Oy, mate, you'll have to find a services - she hasn't had a wee or a snack since Oslo).

And part of that escapism is that Bond always wins, and walks away with a swagger. And he didn't. The mood around me in the cinema was completely flat. We were a party of 8, none of us was crying, just deflated. No one around us clapped or was crying as far as I could see, just shrugging their shoulders and feeling cheated.

I think this week particularly, with Covid spiraling, no fuel, and food shortages on the horizon, a more typical Bond ending was what we needed ....

I don't object to Bond having more of a character arc to get where he's going, I just don't want the destination to be changed 180 degrees.

Thought it was great and not sure Bond is dead. He can’t be with Madeleine or Mathilde any more so maybe he faked his death? And jumped into the water at the last moment.

Totally agree with PP about the mosquito thing - thought it was a precursor to Mathilde being affected by the biological weapon. Totally pointless dialogue. V odd. It was weird that Q had more airtime than the principal baddie. Thought C Waltz stole his scene. He was amazing. Loved Ana (Paloma) / would love to see her pop up in another film. Couldn’t warm to Nomi for some reason though thought actress was excellent.

It could be a reboot but as we didn’t see Bond die, his death might not go into film canon. Surely Bond must live.

I heard it was shit. A lot of people I know have said that.

@HowMuchWine

I heard it was shit. A lot of people I know have said that.

That’s helpful. May be go and see it and come back for a chat?