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The Bluestocking Pub, where we continue to read about gerbils nobly and bravely working undercover in the Fen.

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AsWithGlad · 20/08/2026 15:44

Welcome to The Bluestocking, the best (perhaps only) online women's pub. Nothing in the food or drink can harm you, everything is served by a very enthusiastic crew of gerbils, who enjoy doing this, and any curious menfolk are welcome at the Staunch Ally down the road.

Previous thread: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5564959-the-bluestocking-womens-pub-in-which-we-wait-excitedly-for-the-next-instalment-of-goseis-adventures

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MyrtleLion · 26/08/2026 15:18

AnonyMumAuDHD · 26/08/2026 15:08

Think there is a distinct lack of a sense of humour there.

I actually have a Christmas reindeer onesie that I wear in December for no reason other than it is quite cosy, confuses the hell out of the dogs and causes my kids to piss themselves laughing. I like stylish clothes more than most, and shoes and boots especially ( @MyrtleLion I treated myself to some knee highs the other day after our posts to wear with some above the knee boho dresses I snagged in a menopausal/ADHD spree in the sales… plus DH said he loved them and I was in no way to old for them[don’t care if he was lying])… but I also like daft sleep and loungewear (lots of harry potter pjs and marvel avenger tees knocking around). So does my DH - he has millions of cricket ad star wars ‘best dad’ tees.

If you can’t have a bit of bloody fun with your clothes from time to time, you need a sense of humour transplant. That Colin the Capybara top looks so much fun!!

That's lovely! I'm so glad I was able to help (if I did).

AnonyMumAuDHD · 26/08/2026 15:24

MyrtleLion · 26/08/2026 15:18

That's lovely! I'm so glad I was able to help (if I did).

Ooh yes, you did trigger a little on line browsing, that lead to ‘I’ll just pop those in the basket for now’, to ‘ooh an extra 30% off and free delivery’ frenzy.

Got some orthotic shoe inserts to see if they help with ball of foot pain (supposedly called metatarsalgia) as there is nothing I can work out after consulting Dr Google to explain why I get it. I am not letting a bit of agony get in the way of those boots.

… Which were NOT in the sale… but were really really cute and from Carvela. And I saved on the 4 dresses (£15 each) so it kind of balances out… coughs, doesn’t it?

MyrtleLion · 26/08/2026 15:33

AnonyMumAuDHD · 26/08/2026 15:24

Ooh yes, you did trigger a little on line browsing, that lead to ‘I’ll just pop those in the basket for now’, to ‘ooh an extra 30% off and free delivery’ frenzy.

Got some orthotic shoe inserts to see if they help with ball of foot pain (supposedly called metatarsalgia) as there is nothing I can work out after consulting Dr Google to explain why I get it. I am not letting a bit of agony get in the way of those boots.

… Which were NOT in the sale… but were really really cute and from Carvela. And I saved on the 4 dresses (£15 each) so it kind of balances out… coughs, doesn’t it?

I think we should stop feeling guilty about what we spend our money on, particularly if it's for ourselves. If you can afford it, then fine. If you believe it's better spent on the household or the children, when do you get to have things you want and like?

Would you advise your friend to buy them if she wanted them and could afford it? If the answer is yes, then buy them for yourself.

AnonyMumAuDHD · 26/08/2026 15:40

MyrtleLion · 26/08/2026 15:33

I think we should stop feeling guilty about what we spend our money on, particularly if it's for ourselves. If you can afford it, then fine. If you believe it's better spent on the household or the children, when do you get to have things you want and like?

Would you advise your friend to buy them if she wanted them and could afford it? If the answer is yes, then buy them for yourself.

🥰 I am trying to break a 20 year habit of prioritising the kids. Every now and again DH insists on taking me shopping himself to treat me, as he knows I am reluctant (unless I am buying a spaniel). I have started to spend money on me recently because I realised it actually makes him happy.

ErrolTheDragon · 26/08/2026 15:51

Chickadeeinme · 26/08/2026 12:53

Why is there no gerbil nightie?

I’m sure their turn will come as ‘cute animal of the season’. Some do retain a presence longer than one year e.g. Highland cows, dachshunds obviously.

AnonyMumAuDHD · 26/08/2026 16:04

I like the highland cows. When I’ve finished DS’s blanket I am going to try a TOFT crochet kit of one of those because they are soooo cute! Might pop it on the Christmas list as I can never think of anything for the kids and PiL to buy me.

AnonyMumAuDHD · 26/08/2026 16:30

Q for the academics amongst us. I was looking at post doc funding, found the Brit Academy and the fact that they are linked with Oxford. Then looked at the Life Writing section that I think my project would come under, even though there is psychological/qualitative component. And there, listed as the Department’s Founder, was my lovely tutor from my first degree. She knew me quite well at the time as she had to advocate for funding for me with my LEA as my mother had emigrated suddenly (conditional discharge given upon conviction due to a promise to return to her family in their home country), leaving me homeless and without a parent to sign my grant forms!

I’ve gone and impulsively written to her on the basis of our past connection, described my thesis project, and asked if she might be interested in mentoring me or can recommend me to someone within the department who might be excited by my project… was I a bit rash??

NotAtMyAge · 26/08/2026 16:56

AsWithGlad · 26/08/2026 15:13

I considered that, but Wikipedia says “For a period it was a ruin” which made me wonder if it counted.

The Leper Chapel (1125) is often described as being the oldest surviving building in Cambridge although most of it was rebuilt in the 13th century, so perhaps it does.

This takes me back to a post I made last week in our previous location, where a young man working in M&S in Cambridge described their building to me as very old because it had been built 80 years ago. We were discussing the lift at the time, so I think he meant that the lift was also 80 years old.

The Oxford equivalent of Cambridge's Leper Chapel is the tiny chapel of St Bartholomew, usually known as Bartlemas. It was founded almost exactly at the same time as the Leper Chapel, but the building dates from the C14th. It forms part of the parish our daughter used to live in while working in Oxford so I've actually visited it.

https://cowleystjohn.co.uk/our-sites/bartlemas-chapel

Bartlemas Chapel – Cowley St John

https://cowleystjohn.co.uk/our-sites/bartlemas-chapel

MarieDeGournay · 26/08/2026 17:30

There's lots of important life stuff going on here, academic and outfits and all sorts, but I focused in on the accordion news🙃
Well, it's not everyday someone says 'I'm off to my accordion class'!

One of the big regrets in my life is that I am one? two? generations away from the traditional music that would have permeated all through my family up to the early 20c, but it wasn't passed on to my parents' generation.
They remembered uncles and aunts coming home after years in England [not the ones who emigrated to the USA, they never came home again] and just picking up the fiddle and playing as if they'd never stopped.

A neighbour was going to teach me on an old melodeon when I was little, but it just never happened - we moved, he moved, he passed away - something like that...
A shame, because I might have ended up jamming with Weary🙂

Very pleased to make the acquaintance of Trevor and Michael, Boily, they look like splendid chappies😄

I hope they don't feel threatened by the capybara take-over; the meerkats must be well hacked off, nobody pays them any attention at all these days, it's all capybaras this ad capybaras that
seriously - how on earth does that happen that some animals are 'in' for a while, then they are replaced by an invasive species.

Re Dolly RIP - did you see that they lit up the Empire State Building in pink in her honour - at 9.25 exactlySmile

EdithStourton · 26/08/2026 17:38

AnonyMumAuDHD · 26/08/2026 16:30

Q for the academics amongst us. I was looking at post doc funding, found the Brit Academy and the fact that they are linked with Oxford. Then looked at the Life Writing section that I think my project would come under, even though there is psychological/qualitative component. And there, listed as the Department’s Founder, was my lovely tutor from my first degree. She knew me quite well at the time as she had to advocate for funding for me with my LEA as my mother had emigrated suddenly (conditional discharge given upon conviction due to a promise to return to her family in their home country), leaving me homeless and without a parent to sign my grant forms!

I’ve gone and impulsively written to her on the basis of our past connection, described my thesis project, and asked if she might be interested in mentoring me or can recommend me to someone within the department who might be excited by my project… was I a bit rash??

No. It can't hurt, and it might help.

AnonyMumAuDHD · 26/08/2026 17:38

NotAtMyAge · 26/08/2026 16:56

The Oxford equivalent of Cambridge's Leper Chapel is the tiny chapel of St Bartholomew, usually known as Bartlemas. It was founded almost exactly at the same time as the Leper Chapel, but the building dates from the C14th. It forms part of the parish our daughter used to live in while working in Oxford so I've actually visited it.

https://cowleystjohn.co.uk/our-sites/bartlemas-chapel

For some reason that image and its name reminded me of a local church that has an anchorite cell in it. Think there is also one in Shrewsbury where DH is from. I was rather perturbed visiting them both ‘in my youth’, as it seemed cruel and macabre, but feel I need to revisit the history to understand why they existed.

EdithStourton · 26/08/2026 17:43

I'm sitting out in the garden and I've just spent 5 or 10 minutes chucking a squeaky toy for Brains to bring back to me. I finally got bored and said, okay, last one. I chucked it, and she went and got it, then trotted off to give a bit of a chew.

She did eventually and over-optimistically bring it back, but sometimes I swear she can understand English.

Perhaps I should try teaching her the names of 50 items, and then seeing if she can work out that a new name must apply to one she's not seen before. There was a collie who did that, most impressive.

AnonyMumAuDHD · 26/08/2026 17:52

EdithStourton · 26/08/2026 17:38

No. It can't hurt, and it might help.

Thanks Edith. I was just so taken by the fact that I had come across her again - she was a tutor in the proper sense that used to exist: door always open (or office hours clearly posted), available for pastoral issues and intellectual chit chat, proper guidance on course work, exam and assignment stress and prep, and advice on future modules etc for the whole 3 years. Just had the sense that it was serendipity that she had founded the department where my project fits best.

And of course, she introduced me to Edith Wharton and Willa Cather, Carson McCullers’ Balad of the Sad Cafe… and Virginia Wolf of course! Blew my mind at 19/20!

Hopefully she won’t mind me reaching out!

<Anony slinks off to hide in the corner. Next to the fan. Can’t believe I’ve had to get that out again - I want RAIN!!! >

MyrtleLion · 26/08/2026 17:52

AnonyMumAuDHD · 26/08/2026 16:30

Q for the academics amongst us. I was looking at post doc funding, found the Brit Academy and the fact that they are linked with Oxford. Then looked at the Life Writing section that I think my project would come under, even though there is psychological/qualitative component. And there, listed as the Department’s Founder, was my lovely tutor from my first degree. She knew me quite well at the time as she had to advocate for funding for me with my LEA as my mother had emigrated suddenly (conditional discharge given upon conviction due to a promise to return to her family in their home country), leaving me homeless and without a parent to sign my grant forms!

I’ve gone and impulsively written to her on the basis of our past connection, described my thesis project, and asked if she might be interested in mentoring me or can recommend me to someone within the department who might be excited by my project… was I a bit rash??

That is bloody briliant!!!

I do NOT believe in fate or God or meant to be, but I DO believe in contacting people we know and letting them know what's happening and asking for help.

This is amazing, and excellent that you wrote to her. Good luck!

MyrtleLion · 26/08/2026 17:53

Gosie is coming very soon. I had a big meeting and felt very unsettled afterwards, but I didn't have any immediate actions, so I spent the afternoon drafting chapters.

EdithStourton · 26/08/2026 17:55

Also, we had a 90% chance of rain last night, to follow the 50% chances of rain we've had on repeat for the past week or so. We've not had more than 'a cuppla thray spits', to quote a local farmer, and early this morning enough to dampen the patio.

We're promised a deluge tonight. I've left some laundry hung out as an offering to the weather gods.

ErrolTheDragon · 26/08/2026 17:58

Dogs are good at learning things we’ve not explicitly taught them, aren’t they? E.g. knowing that me putting my socks on or getting some wooly walking socks out signalled that we would soon be going for a walk.

MyrtleLion · 26/08/2026 17:58

31. Investigations

In which the gerbils pay close attention...

Graphic, Griffin and Gimbal returned as usual to the workshop the following morning at 9am where the crate that had led Fenella Burnish to send them home early the previous day, was notably absent. Graphic was taken to the far bench again, where the magnifying glass and the side light were already set up, and a fresh block of paper had been put out with the sharpened pencils.

As before, she drew the marks, checked each drawing against the lead, numbered it in the corner, and set it on the pile. By the middle of the morning the opened cames from the left side of the panel were completed, and Fenella came over to Graphic’s bench, lifted the last two strips away herself, and laid out four new ones in their place.

“Perimeter lead,” she said. “The outside edge of the panel. It’s wider, and it carries more symbols. Same job.”

The perimeter strips were wider, and the marks in them sat further apart. Graphic worked along the first one. Initials. A date. Initials again. She drew each one, checked it, numbered it, set it down.

Graphic noticed a mark on the outside of the second strip of lead. She was about to ask Fenella if it should be copied, but then she hesitated. It was not initials, and not a date. It was a curve that rose and rounded over and gave up at the bottom right, running off in a short trailing tail, with three evenly spaced diagonal lines crossing it from bottom left to top right.

Graphic drew it. She checked the drawing against the lead the way she had checked every other drawing, and it was right the first time. She numbered it in the corner. Then she stopped. She looked up. Fenella was at the bench with her back turned. Halcyon was at the laptop. Nobody was looking at Graphic at all.

Graphic folded the drawing carefully twice and put it in her pocket. She then took a fresh sheet from the block, drew the mark again, checked it against the lead, numbered it in the corner with the same number, and set it on the pile with the rest. Then she moved along to the next mark on the inside of the came, and drew that.

Gimbal had a plan, which was unusual, because Gimbal’s method until now had been to follow the chain of stamps wherever the chain went.

She took the lid off the box and went straight to compartment 23. The stamp in it had 88 painted on the top. She took it out, looked at the top again in case the top had been wrong the first time, and looked at the die, which was a small crown. It was not what she was looking for, and compartment 23 was now empty, and she was holding stamp 88.

So she cleaned 88, dried it, and took it to compartment 88, and took out what was in there, which was 154, and cleaned it, and the chain had her again.

The chain ran where it wanted. It went from 88 to 154 to 61 to 9, and 9 held 200, and 200 held 3, and none of them was 23, and every one of them was clean before it went in and cleaner after. By lunch she had placed 40 stamps and compartment 23 was still empty, a square hole in the middle of the box that she could see every time she lifted the lid, which was often, because she had started checking it, in case 23 had arrived in it by some route that did not involve her.

It had not.

The afternoon chain started at compartment 3, because that was where the morning chain had ended, and went out through 112 and 76 and 130, and at half past three the stamp that came out of compartment 130 had 23 painted on the top.

Gimbal held it for a moment and turned it over. The die was a curve, rising and rounding over, running off at the bottom right in a short tail, with three diagonal lines struck across the top of the curve from bottom left to top right. She looked at it for as long as it took to be sure of it and no longer. Then she cleaned it, dried it and carried it across the box to compartment 23, which had been waiting empty since nine o’clock, and put it in. The chain had been broken, so she looked at the next compartment along, which already had stamp 24 in it, and the next which contained 25 and then saw Stamp 139 in compartment 26, and began the chain again.

Griffin spent the first hour of the morning not looking at the dispatch tab.
The dispatch tab was there. FB0417 was there, blue and underlined, one click from the grey sheet and the box that shook. She had the four characters, the capital F, the 5, the b, the t, and she had six she did not have, and she had Hedgehog’s voice saying nobody knew how many wrong attempts it would take to lock the thing forever.

Griffin logged two parcels and a kiln booking instead, and saw the kiln tab sat between the paint tab and a tab she had never had reason to open, which was labelled Stamps.

She opened it.

It was a list, ordered by number, 1 to 200, one row each. The columns read Number, Die, Date, and Title. Most of the rows were sparse. Number 4 said Fleur-de-lis and nothing else. Number 61 said Crown, small, and nothing else. Number 171 said Personal Seal. A few rows had dates and initials in the Die column and, in the Title column, were names that matched the initials. More often than not, the Date column was empty, and the Title column was nearly always blank.

Griffin scrolled to row 23 and read, Number, 23. Die, curve and lines. Date, 1293. Title, Reconstruction.

She read it twice. Then she scrolled back up to the kiln bookings, logged the firing, and entered the two parcels that had come in without barcodes, field by field, the way Halcyon had shown her.

https://myrtlelion.substack.com/p/31-investigations

The Bluestocking Pub, where we continue to read about gerbils nobly and bravely working undercover in the Fen.
The Bluestocking Pub, where we continue to read about gerbils nobly and bravely working undercover in the Fen.
DeanElderberry · 26/08/2026 18:01

Gubbins has been honouring the sense of loss we share with a musical tribute. She seems to have become increasingly confused as to correct use of her instrument as time went on

The Bluestocking Pub, where we continue to read about gerbils nobly and bravely working undercover in the Fen.
MyrtleLion · 26/08/2026 18:02

I added the image of the old symbol, because AI can't get it right, and I want you all to know what it actually looks like.

AnonyMumAuDHD · 26/08/2026 18:03

Phew @MyrtleLion Feel better now. Been sitting here thinking I may have been a bit daft. But I have so few connections in this world and, upon looking into her work since I left York, she is a specialist in feminist lit and Life Writing and it really does feel serendipitous.

I may send my more formal pitch email to one of her colleagues, referencing that I’ve emailed her and that she taught me a trillion years ago, but I am thinking: ‘don’t ask; don’t get’…

DeanElderberry · 26/08/2026 18:03

But her heart was undoubtedly in it

The Bluestocking Pub, where we continue to read about gerbils nobly and bravely working undercover in the Fen.
AsWithGlad · 26/08/2026 18:04

NotAtMyAge · 26/08/2026 16:56

The Oxford equivalent of Cambridge's Leper Chapel is the tiny chapel of St Bartholomew, usually known as Bartlemas. It was founded almost exactly at the same time as the Leper Chapel, but the building dates from the C14th. It forms part of the parish our daughter used to live in while working in Oxford so I've actually visited it.

https://cowleystjohn.co.uk/our-sites/bartlemas-chapel

How interesting, @NotAtMyAge . It’s grand that it’s in regular use as a place of worship.

I wonder what Fenella would make of their stained glass?

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MyrtleLion · 26/08/2026 18:05

AnonyMumAuDHD · 26/08/2026 18:03

Phew @MyrtleLion Feel better now. Been sitting here thinking I may have been a bit daft. But I have so few connections in this world and, upon looking into her work since I left York, she is a specialist in feminist lit and Life Writing and it really does feel serendipitous.

I may send my more formal pitch email to one of her colleagues, referencing that I’ve emailed her and that she taught me a trillion years ago, but I am thinking: ‘don’t ask; don’t get’…

Go for it!

As Dolly Parton said, “You’ll never do a whole lot unless you’re brave enough to try.”

and

“I never tried quitting, and I never quit trying.”

and

“Above everything else I’ve done, I’ve always said I’ve had more guts than I’ve got talent.”

AnonyMumAuDHD · 26/08/2026 18:05

EdithStourton · 26/08/2026 17:55

Also, we had a 90% chance of rain last night, to follow the 50% chances of rain we've had on repeat for the past week or so. We've not had more than 'a cuppla thray spits', to quote a local farmer, and early this morning enough to dampen the patio.

We're promised a deluge tonight. I've left some laundry hung out as an offering to the weather gods.

I surreptitiously watered my lawn for an hour this morning with a permitted hose and handheld sprinkler for the same reason.

And counted butterflies. Still loads, but mainly the white cabbage ones

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