Disown by mum friends who I have known for 20 years due to my gender critical view.

[rouxelitee]

I am a bit sad today because I have been disowned by my group of friends who are mothers. I have known them since college. All of us have children, mine is a toddler.

One of them is a paediatrician. Let's call her JY. She supports the trans-movement for children. Recently she has shared an article with the whatsapp chat group on sexual and relationship saying that this should be how children are parented. https://www.nspcc.org.uk/keeping-children-safe/sex-relationships/
I didn't agree with the gender and identity section and I called it out. I said that affirming children in this matter will make things worst. The conversation escalated and she basically cautioned me that this is hate speech and if a doctor have the same view as I do, their license will be taken.

Fast forward to today, my partner and I are have been researching on local schools and their policies on the same matter, preparing ourselves for when our child is of school age. We found out that this school in Leicester has the following policy.

7.3 In accordance with the Equality Act 2010 we will not inform a parent or carer about a student being Trans or gender questioning.
7.4 Confidential information will not be shared with the parents and carers without a student’s permission, unless there are safeguarding reasons for doing so.
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https://www.newcollege.leicester.sch.uk/force_download.cfm?id=3190

I felt that this is such a massive red flag, that I need to warn all my friends to look into their school policies.

JY then said "Much as I value our friendship, I do not have headspace to engage in these issues. I'll bow out of this group." A few others followed and quit the chat group.

They will possibly not talk to me ever again. I am very sad and I feel very alone in this matter, and that my partner and I and alone in this battle alone trying to protect our child from the state, the school and dangerous ideology.

I guess I just want to not feel like a crazy person shouting on top of my lungs "please look into this, this is bad".

Thanks,
roux

I think it's this:

Patriarchy: Women should wear skirts.
Feminism: Women can wear whatever they want.
Gender: Wearing a skirt is what makes someone a woman.

My son adopted a trans identity a few years ago. He has been poisoning himself with hormones since then and I hate to think of what he will have done to his health by the time he is middle aged (accelerated brain mass reduction, bone problems, increased risk of stroke, etc.). Like many, many kids who go this route, he disappeared from our lives the moment we brought up any concern for his health. Also like many of these kids, he rewrote his childhood (he was into Legos and Minecraft, had zero interest in anything girly). I think most people on the Left have no idea of what actually goes on in families affected by this. The funny thing is, when my son made his announcement, I didn’t know about the social contagion and I took what he said at face value, happy for him for discovering his authentic self. Almost immediately it became obvious that he was in a kind of cult. I sought out other gender-critical people and found a new set of friends who are so much brighter and more interesting than my old ones. I’m very sad for my son, but I’m proud of not being one of the sheep going along with this. I no longer want to have relationships with people who aren’t smart or courageous enough to understand and acknowledge that gender ideology is regressive and harmful.

Right, and this is the problem; you have a very simplified understanding of gender, patriarchy , feminism and sex.

Are you alienated from your son?

Well do enlighten us then Tandora.

How is man gender different from woman gender? What are the characteristics of each?

Well do enlighten us then Tandora

I can’t because you don’t want to hear it.

Yes, he left and won’t have any contact with us. We send him “thinking of you” emails now and then. I know dozens of other parents in the same situation, all lovely people whom no one would call bigots.

I’d love to hear it!

There’s people who think the earth is flat too. What can you do.

I’d love to hear it!

For your own entertainment?

I’m really sad for him and for you.

Depends on how entertaining you make describing what gender is and how humans can change sex and the questions @MissScarletInTheBallroom has asked you but you’ve failed to answer, I guess.

Depends on how entertaining you make describing what gender is and how humans can change sex

right.

So you should be. People like you are part of and contribute to this misery.

Ha. No this is not on me.

And I’ll happily let the young person in question be the judge of that .

Crack on then. Describe it. Answer the questions. You’re on a discussion forum.

Should be easy shouldn’t it?

I’m hardly going to waste my time when you’ve made it clear this is just sport/ entertainment for you.

No, I’m intrigued by people who state something that’s nonsensical/impossible that they believe in, but cant or won’t explain the how and why. Especially when the thing that they believe in harms women. In addition to being intrigued it makes me angry, as a feminist.

Yes I understand you are angry.
You are also wrong.
Anti-gender ideology harms women. And that makes me angry as a feminist.

But you can’t explain how and why.

You are not a feminist. You’re a dick panderer.

You’re a dick panderer.

im pretty sure that violates mumsnet s talk guidelines.

I could explain all kinds of things, but you are not the least bit interested is listening. You just want to argue/ attack/ mock / express your outrage. That isn’t a dialogue worth participating in.

What a shock 🙄.

I absolutely, desperately want to hear it.

I'm begging you. Please. Prove it is not all a load of bollocks.

This, "I could explain it to you but you're not interested in hearing it" to people who are incredibly interested in hearing it is getting incredibly tiresome.

If you were any more transparent we could use you as a window.

You're not a feminist.