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CormorantStrikesBack · 03/09/2024 15:37

deeahgwitch · 03/09/2024 15:17

I sincerely hope photographs of the depraved men who participated in the appalling rapes will be shown to all and sundry so they will be forever known for their depravity.
They should be named and shamed.

My word but Gisele is one brave woman.

One of them is a nurse! Seriously hope he’s been suspended/sacked.

ThatsNotMyTeen · 03/09/2024 15:38

I read this yesterday and almost vomited. That poor woman

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 03/09/2024 15:53

Oh god he kept nude pictures of his daughter too. 🤮😡

How that poor family can sit through this trial without vomiting is beyond me. So so devastated for them.

CormorantStrikesBack · 03/09/2024 16:59

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 03/09/2024 15:53

Oh god he kept nude pictures of his daughter too. 🤮😡

How that poor family can sit through this trial without vomiting is beyond me. So so devastated for them.

Just been reading that the daughter says she can’t be sure she hasn’t been drugged and raped as well. Awful.

XChrome · 03/09/2024 18:16

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 03/09/2024 09:52

We need a sarcasm font.

I believe the sarcasm font goes something like this;
pROgGreSiVe mEn ARe oUr ALliEs aND CAre DEepLy ABout OuR sAFeTy.

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 03/09/2024 18:17

Thanks! 😂

I'll bear that in mind for next time. 😉

XChrome · 03/09/2024 18:20

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 03/09/2024 15:53

Oh god he kept nude pictures of his daughter too. 🤮😡

How that poor family can sit through this trial without vomiting is beyond me. So so devastated for them.

😱
I hope they all get shanked in prison.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 03/09/2024 18:29

Just been reading that the daughter says she can’t be sure she hasn’t been drugged and raped as well. Awful.

What more horrors are going to come out in this trial? How that poor family is still standing is beyond me. The ordeal they are being put through is just utterly indescribable.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/09/2024 18:46

I believe the sarcasm font goes something like this;
pROgGreSiVe mEn ARe oUr ALliEs aND CAre DEepLy ABout OuR sAFeTy.

👏 🎯

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 03/09/2024 19:46

So utterly disgusting. What must it be like to be a man? Why are they so ruled by their dicks? I can't understand why so many are out of control and given half a chance would commit any number of disgusting sexual assaults if they could. I find it all mind blowing.

EmmaGrundyForPM · 03/09/2024 20:06

She is a very brave woman.

I have no words to describe what I think of him and the men who raped her.

XChrome · 04/09/2024 01:35

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 03/09/2024 19:46

So utterly disgusting. What must it be like to be a man? Why are they so ruled by their dicks? I can't understand why so many are out of control and given half a chance would commit any number of disgusting sexual assaults if they could. I find it all mind blowing.

They aren't ruled by their dicks. The real motivation is to dehumanize and harm women, to exert power over us and get their jollies from sadism. The dick is just the tool they use for that purpose. The motivation is emotional, not physical desire.

WheresMySupportCat · 04/09/2024 06:48

This story is just beyond appalling. And this morning I read that when Gisele sought medical help for recurring gynaecological problems that monster accused her of cheating on him.

It's depraved.

inigomontoyahwillcox · 04/09/2024 07:49

This is one of the most horrific things I've ever read. Words don't exist to describe what I feel towards her husband and these men. And to allow her and her children to believe she had dementia?! Absolute scum.

She is so incredibly brave - I'm glad she's insisted on a public trial but what an ordeal
for her. I hope she can feel the women of the world enveloping her in support.

CormorantStrikesBack · 04/09/2024 08:11

The fact she thought she was physically ill both from a gynaecology pov but also from a dementia/Alzheimer’s pov and he carried on drugging her is awful. She must have spent ten years in a daze. I’ve taken sleeping tablets for a brief period and felt like a zombie but at least I knew why. She literally must have felt she was losing her mind and he let her believe that.

porridgecake · 04/09/2024 08:20

AllTheChaos · 02/09/2024 23:32

Is there a non Daily Fail link? Sorry but I just can’t!

Ridiculous virtue signalling. This thread really isn't the place for it.

porridgecake · 04/09/2024 08:24

Whoowhoopitstbesoundofthedapolice · 03/09/2024 13:26

Makes you wonder how many serial rapists/murderers/utter bastards would be caught/prevented from escalating, a hell of a lot earlier if things like up skirting/catcalling or even stalking were investigated fully the first time.

I imagine it would be a substantial number. It is known that escalation is a factor in this type of crime. Wayne Couzens started out flashing.

user47 · 04/09/2024 08:45

His daughter was also drugged and photographed. WTF is the matter with them? So many of them seeking each other out to share their rancid perversions. Its horrifying. Germaine Greer was right when she said "women have very little idea of how much men hate them"

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MrsWhattery · 04/09/2024 08:49

OMG this is horrendous. How did it all get discovered in the end? I hope she’s feeling a sense of getting some agency and power back and that she can recover enough to have peace and happiness for the rest of her life. What an absolute shower of bastards.

They aren't ruled by their dicks. The real motivation is to dehumanize and harm women, to exert power over us and get their jollies from sadism. The dick is just the tool they use for that purpose. The motivation is emotional, not physical desire.

I don’t know, I think this is definitely a powerful factor and that men want to feel power over women and in many cases hate and resent them. Many men think they should by rights own and control women and are angry that that’s denied them (as yet, in most countries…)

But I do also think there’s some kind of sex obsession in a lot of men and a prioritising of getting sexual gratification, and wanting novel sexual experiences, above all else causing them to not care about anyone else. The men who will train for years to access jobs where they can prey on children, the men who film themselves masturbating in women’s toilets, upskirting or abusing patients or dead people, the men who drug dates - and sometimes these men’s victims are male. It’s not just about hating and controlling women, there’s often an element of being prepared to do anything to get gratification instead of thinking “no that’s wrong”.

Idcmt · 04/09/2024 09:42

The poor poor woman. What incredible bravery.

I’m appalled by the Telegraph’s reporting on this today. “Wife takes public revenge on men who raped her every night on husband's orders'”. She is participating in the legal process as is her right. I find the suggestion that waiving her anonymity is revenge incredibly offensive.

Whoowhoopitstbesoundofthedapolice · 04/09/2024 10:34

porridgecake · 04/09/2024 08:24

I imagine it would be a substantial number. It is known that escalation is a factor in this type of crime. Wayne Couzens started out flashing.

That's what I was thinking ..I mean they know about escalating behaviour and the like and it's always after some catastrophic it comes out there was a pattern of behaviour. It comes back to the whole victims not being believed I guess.

WheresMySupportCat · 04/09/2024 10:42

Victims not being believed, but also sex offending being minimised. 'It's only a flasher, laugh at him'. 'It's only a pat on the bum, you are overeacting'. 'It's your fault- you drank at dinner so of course he demanded sex'.

I've talked about it before on MN but I was sexually assaulted by my uncle aged 12 and I reacted by shouting at him. My mother slapped me for being 'rude' and told me that all girls get a hand up their shirt, what made me think i was so special as to object. (She's a very different person now, and is horrified at herself- but the time it was just seen as something that happens, and you have to put up with it).

offences against women and girls are all too often trivialised, ignored or the victim did something to bring it on herself. Well, we all know that on this board, we have all experienced it or know someone who has and we are railing against it every day.

It's exhausting and depressing and although I have good men in my life sometimes I just fucking hate the sex class that is men.

OvaHere · 04/09/2024 10:50

Absolutely horrendous crimes. I'm now wondering how common this is given there was steady slew of depraved men willing to participate.

Gisele is incredibly brave, the court case alone must be a dreadful ordeal.

AllTheChaos · 04/09/2024 12:11

porridgecake · 04/09/2024 08:20

Ridiculous virtue signalling. This thread really isn't the place for it.

No I just can’t pronounce the name so the does h to text software on the search can understand it. And I don’t read the Fail. I am sorry that my disabilities and failure to attend a school that taught French pronunciation is so terrible for you.

murasaki · 04/09/2024 12:12

It is the worst case of gaslighting from this multiple rapist that has ever happened in the history of gaslighting.

I just hope that France has better sentencing laws than the Netherlands.