I'm asking Keir a question about women's rights on 5 live - how to phrase it?

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I want him not to be able to give me the flannel that we have to be kind to the woMen. I want assurances that we do t have to share our spaces. I want to not sound like the very nervous person that am I!

Any help appreciated?

Labour 2024 is coasting on the positive memories of Labour 1997

Which is really odd because Blair seemed excited and positive. Starmer barely raises a smile, and looks like he's scanning for the exit all the time. They did an event in Nottingham (?) today. Hardly any supporters there and the vibe did NOT feel like 97. Not at all.

Totally agree.

The Blair government were good for women and children. They were a quarter of a century ago now. You're not voting for Blair and what you remember of the last Labour govt, you're voting for Starmer and the anti-woman manifesto.

Yes, it's a bloody awful choice, and I agree: I've never known a less positive election, no one wants any of them really. But it's between the 'we'll enthusiastically destroy women's rights in law' and 'we'll go on wittering vaguely and do not very much but not do more harm to women's rights in law'.

I'll go for vague wittering please.

So Starmer has flipped again, and announced that only biological women should be entitled to use single sex spaces? What a desperate piece of eleventh hour electioneering.You can bet that once he has his giant majority and the keys to Number Ten, it will be back to the 'finding a solution that is respectful to all sides and protects vulnerable minorities' spiel. Devious little man.

For me, the words he said today were just the same words but in a different order.

Actually, being able to go to the loo without worrying about the intentions of the clearly-male person who just walked in is pretty important.

I believe the deals have been done. What is the point of a GRC if it doesn't give you access to female only spaces? Cass report - can't implement if it restricts exploratory therapy. Why the steadfast refusal to say 'single-sex', why are we having to second guess and analyse every single word? Self ID in all but another word is coming. This public refusal to 'pick a side' though will be the end of Starmer (maybe in a few years), but then we really do have to worry to what will come after him. Brace and puulll.

PFI is responsible for a lot of the deficit we still face.

I want an interviewer to ask Starmer if he supports the Darlington nurses. If he came out and unequivocally said that he did so, he would go up in my estimation. But I doubt that'll happen.

I fully expect Labour to claim that there’s “far too much other stuff to be getting on with” but that they’ll get around to implementing Cass eventually….

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Only if they don't look at him

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So many people responding to that post who have completely missed the point about the man in general, rather than the last incident!

Read Alison's account - it didn't surprise me that KS did that. When I consider his responses in interviews and the insight into him on the AMA thread, I get a worrying picture of him as a person.

To be fair would like to hear the other side of that!

Background on him in The Times

The Times: in depth series on Starmer www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/5110619-the-times-in-depth-series-on-starmer

@Whatthechicken What is the point of a GRC if it doesn't give you access to female only spaces?

Nailed it!!

@ResisterOfTwaddleRex Which is really odd because Blair seemed excited and positive. Starmer barely raises a smile,

O,M.G. tho.!

I caught him on the news yesterday 'smiling ' - it looked just odd - like his advisors had told him to 'smile because it makes you look less robotic'

Memories of Arnie in The Terminator practising his smile ................... 😬😆

Still looks more natural doing it than Gordon Brown did, I think.

I think they also told him to change his shirt for a darker one quite recently. He was starting to look like a sinister Harry Hill in the white one. But the dark one looked wrong somehow.

Also saw him smiling, it did feel forced. I agree.

Also saw him smiling, it did feel forced. I agree.

Maybe it was wind? 🤷‍♀️

Sinister Harry Hill 🤣 see they’ve deleted the Lammy thread, which was so obviously full of men.

He reminded me of Michael Douglas in Falling down in the white shirt (and the advert that’s adorned mumsnet for weeks).

Michael Douglas 🤣

That poster with him on the left in white shirt and specs, looking grim, reminded me of the Kray twins.

Doubt he has the same method operandi as the Krays.

I don't know whether it's the TV cameras, but Keir's white shirts always seem to make him look unwell.

DH has noticed too (which is quite out of character)!

I did wonder whether they'd got a stylist in a few weeks ago, when he had a pale blue one on, but that was a temporary lapse.