Pregnant NYC Bike "Karen" was the victim, not the agressor

[littleripper]

Trial by social media for a pregnant woman who cried when a man tried to steal the bike she's hired is tried and hung by social media, and put on unpaid leave from her job, with no evidence or investigation:

https://www.bicycling.com/news/a43920956/pregnant-nyc-karen-on-video-trying-to-steal-a-black-mans-citi-bike/

https://news.yahoo.com/receipts-show-hospital-worker-accused-170920174.html

It turns out she had paid for the bike and he has no evidence he paid. But he is not the subject of the internets wrath, no consequences for him.

I hope she takes her employers to court and wins a massive settlement. Surreal levels of misogyny and hatred directed to a pregnant healthcare worker who did nothing wrong at all.

Will this ever be recognised for what it is?

Ok @TrudyProud

There is no proof she was pregnant. Fine. I’ll accept that.

However, she has provided proof that she had rented that bike those men were trying to take.

They did not prove proof they also had that bike. Instead they just tried to take it.

Now since she was liable for $1000 fine for not returning the bike, what should she have done?

Having been on the receiving end of the infantilisation of white women who cry during any kind of discomfort (even when they are the aggressor) i stand by my opinion

So you are extrapolating from a few encounters, to generalise about all white women? Isn't that kinda....racist?

I once got assaulted by a black female drug seeker. Should I draw conclusions about all black women, based on that encounter?

I shouldn't have told you to fuck off, Trudy. I apologise. I still maintain that coming onto a thread and claiming numerous things that have been shown to be untrue (in the OP no less), refusing to engage with the proof that you are wrong, and then implying that posters' disagreement with you is racism is really poor form.

I've also been mugged and assaulted by two different black men. I didn't even think of that when I saw this incident.

So now it's a situation none of us were privy to? When previously you said:

the boys paid for the bike ✅
the nurse tried to take the bike ✅
said nurse weaponised her tears to get her way ✅
the nurse walked into a group of boys and attempted to create hysteria and then started crying ✅

You are the only poster I can see resorting to provocative language and insults. You stated as a fact that this woman was a thief and a liar and had attempted to create hysteria. You stated she had weaponised her 'white woman tears'. As far as I can see the only poster who made this racist was you.

Except for the some white women frequently weaponise their tears as often against black woman as black men, so not misogynistic.

*except for the fact...

'black female drug seeker'. Great example. Tells ethnic people all they need to know about you.

A woman was just called an idiot and a fool on this thread because she has a different opinion. I don't the "the K word" matches that.

I'd say the same of people here accusing everyone who uses any word they don't like as being misogynist. Playing the "M" card is tiresome as well.

Of course it is. Let's shut down every phrase as misogynist. Not tiresome at all. Soon we'd have nothing to say. Does that sound familiar?

Critical thinking. I agree

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Typical of this board. I agree with you. No one sees "misogyny" in how you're being treated and the names and insults you've received. Convenient.

Really? The only poster you can see resorting to insults and provocative language is the one who's called a woman you don't know a thief, a liar but you clearly missed her being sworn at and called an idiot, etc in defence of this woman they don’t know (or do they?). In fact, it never happened, according to you.

FWR board for you.

If you say so. I suspect many black women have been on the receiving end of enough white women's tears to make them wary of all white women until they feel safe with said white women. Even then there are a few nasty surprises. It doesn't mean all white women do it, but a sufficient number to that additional precautions need to be taken around all white women at least in the first instance.

The concerted effort to convince us that the least violent, least criminal sector of society (middle aged and older women, race immaterial) are the greatest threat to that society is really something to behold.

Let's ignore the 98% of violent crimes committed by men. Let's forget ongoing enslavement/forced labour of Roma people, Uighurs, many people in Africa. Who cares about FGM, women being deprived of agency, women's economic disadvantage? What really matters is that some middle-aged women in developed countries don't complain in the right way.

If a 10th of the anger directed at "Karens" was diverted to solving injustice, the world would be a much better place.

Identity politics are a deliberate distraction from social injustice of all types. The people most harmed by them are the people who experience most social injustice - including black people and women. It's sad to see the people who have most to lose being suborned to cheer on their own oppression.

Don't look at us, look at men. They're threats to us. We can only talk about what specifically benefits/affects us, otherwise you're bringing distraction and division in our women's fight, and we'll accuse you of playing all sorts of cards against us.

'don't complain in the right way' in 'developed' countries... Nice!

There is no question that men are big problem but so are many white women for black women. To not acknowledge that is divisive. Not all women, but many. Perpetrators and bystanders are equally culpable. Your post is like unconscious bias bingo.

You could not illustrate my point more perfectly if I had created you as a sock.

Always distract. Always play the (wo)man, not the ball. Always take issue with the form of expression, not the thought behind it(and, if you don’t like ‘developed’, take it up with the UN, OECD and all the other organisations that have normalised it).

Never, ever engage in serious debate. Never allow that the other person has a legitimate opinion, even if different from your own. You have no choice, because identity politics cannot withstand critical analysis. So you have to keep shouting, “Look over there”, to try to escape scrutiny.

Perpetrators and bystanders are equally culpable

Perfect example of a trite slogan that cannot withstand critical analysis. It serves only to deflect blame from actual perpetrators - usually onto women.

Never allow that the other person has a legitimate opinion, even if different from your own.

So you have to keep shouting, “Look over there”, to try to escape scrutiny.

The irony

You could not demonstrate my point more clearly. I have lived experience you have, well, nada.

Ah, that’s another one; thank you for reminding me.

Lived experience is a trump card, but only for highly selective groups. I imagine quite a lot of women on this thread have lived experience of feeling threatened by groups of young men, for example. But, of course, that isn’t the right sort of lived experience, so must be discounted.

100%

This.

This thread is utterly bizarre. To see that video and decide the most likely explanation for what's going on is a lone woman is trying to steal from a group of young men - really? Then doubling down with hyperbole about white women weaponising their tears? MEN are the biggest danger to any and all women, MEN. Men commit the vast majority of crimes, cause the vast majority of all types of danger to any and all women and children. Not women, of any age or race, MEN.