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Men: you’re the cause of our baby crisis

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reegee · 17/05/2023 14:25

Interesting article in the Times today. It's surely a valid point that Young women should consider the contribution to parenting that a partner might offer when considering having a baby?

Men: you’re the cause of our baby crisis

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/men-youre-the-cause-of-our-baby-crisis-qgqq288db?shareToken=5ca2dd91b4d7a7d64672da6f3bacdf7f

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Blomonje · 22/05/2023 10:35

Fine, well then it’s immensely valuable to have someone at home to support working family members. Because juggling sick days and deliveries and all of the other shit is much easier if you can just ring someone. Not to mention how it’s a massive help to have someone to do the ironing while you’re at work. In previous times that role would have been filled by an older woman but it doesn’t have to be. But based on experience I can tell you that women my age who have their mums to babysit and run the hoover round have it a damn sight easier than me. A huge number of women couldn’t work without that unpaid support.

But you know it can work just as well with BOTH parents taking on equal responsibility? Why does someone need to to sacrifice their career when compromise from both parents means that doesn't need to happen? Unless you want to structure your family that way or particular circumstances dictate.

I am early 40's and have an 8 year old. Both me and DH work full time in professional jobs and have managed perfectly well without someone at home managing the house for us because we take equal responsibility for childcare and chores. If more men took responsibility for their kids by working flexibly, taking equal sick days, doing the school run etc then there wouldn't be a need for someone to be at home running the household.

JenniferBooth · 22/05/2023 14:34

@OhamIreally The changes to Pension Credit have contributed towards that too. In an age gap relationship the younger partner sometimes (not always) becomes a carer for the older partner. And the younger partner is often the woman. Now the younger partner has to claim UC with all the work conditionality that brings.

Predicted here, with plenty of posters cheering it on.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/money-matters/3479693-Changes-to-Pension-Credit?page=1

Changes to Pension Credit. | Mumsnet

From 15 May Pension Credit couple rate will only be paid if both are over 65 [[https://twitter.com/JosephineCumbo/status/1084920673296961536]]...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/money-matters/3479693-Changes-to-Pension-Credit?page=1

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