I've tried .

[stillvicarinatutu]

I've really tried to engage in the fwr board but it's so hostile.

I really wanted to explore more but I just feel attacked whenever I speak my truth.

I don't know what came of the Caroline what's her name thread because I hid it . I really wanted to try and understand what was happening there and try to offer insight and engage from the perspective of a woman in the police .

But I just can't get through the "your all bastards , Wayne cousins, watching me , agenda , trans rights , you're all bastards cos some forces are talking bollocks stuff .

I agree with most of everything but when I'm trying to engage and proffer my support all I get is you behaved badly because you said police should patrol at nigth and have the audacity to LOOK at a woman out at night . The. WC gets brought up like the majority of the police force men and women are some physical threat - when he was the absolute definition of exception not the rule.

I get insulted time and time again and I still tried . It's just turned me off the whole topic because no one will actually talk rationally with me .
And if I ask why all I will get is sulky replied about how police are all shit with some anti feminist agenda when I work in a drive that has never ever had that agenda - no stonewall training , no lanyards with rainbows or cars with stickers - yet when I say this is not my experience while respecting it may be yours - I get told I must be a man .

Last night I posted in a thread and asked what is the issue with police patrolling at night and looking at people who are out ?

Result : your behaved badly . You said it wasn't an issue . You said that's what police are meant to do . (It is actually! Police patrol at night because that's when most crime happens like burglary and car crime )

The reason I'm posting before anyone says something really witty like do t let the door hit your arse on the way out
Is because I wanted to engage and be included in chats that involve women . No
Matter what their job is . I have no trans agenda - I have always said and always believed you are born with either an x or a Y chromosome and that determines your skeletal frame , and your sex . And that cannot be changed.
I'm horrified by the tales here of thought police and wrong think .
I'm in that job and I could actually raise this . The more I learned the more ridiculous it seemed . But I can't even talk about it without jibes or civility.
The fwr board is really really hostile . As a woman I feel unwelcome to even discuss anything .
This will cause more offence and a round of fuck offs. But I really wanted to learn what the issues were around fwr and policing . Its like an exclusive club that no one can gain entry to unless you absolutely comply with the narrative- and I don't even know what it is !
I really wanted to try and understand and learn and possibly - possibly try to raise some of the issues from within .

Anyway - please please don't pile on - this is constructive criticism.
And I won't engage . I've hidden the fwr board now because I don't feel I can be included or add anything of value .

Please don't prove me right by being vindictive or abusive .

I just wanted to learn , help , engage.

I really wish you luck in what ever you hope to achieve .

Oh for an edit button

Because I was so shocked and I couldn't believe you'd said it.

This is why I now avoid the boards.

Oh ffs that was tongue in cheek ! A joke ! I'd seen something on the internet where a woman published her conversation after a bloke did it to her - it was funny . Gods sake does not one have a sense of humour?

It wasn't just me that took it as serious. You were pulled up on it on the thread and didn't say it was a joke.

And as someone who purports to be a serving police officer, I really think saying that sort of thing is worrying. It shows a casual attitude to law that makes me feel very uneasy.

Yes I did say it was a joke ! On that thread for those with a soh bypass.

Sorry I shall never joke again . Hth.

tldr: don't be too sure you're (ever) right; try to come to terms with this.

stillvicarinatutu : "I've tried"

Keep trying. Perhaps start with this:

"I just feel attacked whenever I speak my truth," you say. Do you mean, "I just feel attacked whenever I say what I think"? Or do you really think there is such a thing as "my truth" as opposed to "your truth" ... or just simply "the truth".

It cannot be true that there is such a thing as "my truth" in such opposition, can it? Do you see why?

It cannot be true that truth is relative, or that truth is subjective: 'It is true that truth is relative/subjective' has the interesting feature that it says that what it says is not true. So if it's true it's false. So it's false. No?

Why is this important? One reason is that if you get used to thinking in terms of "whenever I say what I think" rather than the self-defeating "whenever I speak my truth", you are more likely to be able to accept that what you think is not, in fact, true ... you may be mistaken, in other words.

You are, like the rest of us, often mistaken, often in ways we find difficulty in noticing. You really do need to get to grips with that. Sloppy thoughts (and their associated expression) about "my truth" serve to hide this from yourself.

That's a start, anyway. Hard to swallow? Sure. Oliver Cromwell had a nice way with this: "I beseech you," he famously wrote to the General Assembly of the Kirk of Scotland in 1650, "I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ, think it possible you may be mistaken. ..."

Erm....
Keh?

I do have to lol at mn. I'm in the Meghan markle thread and the racist comments are fu Kong ridiculous. Abhorrent actually. And yet they stand . Misogynistic, racist, utter shite . I've been called "love " 😂. Probably from a 25 year old misogynistic racist smart arse .

But I'm the enemy 😂. I do enjoy chatting on mn mostly but I do get a bit tired of defending myself simply because of a job . I was me long before the job . Just me . Yeah I get abuse for a job , but I've not really got any axe to grind .

I was a little puzzled by "Keh?", but I suppose you mean "Qué?". Hmm? Not all words are spelled how they sound.

You might think of this - and your feelings about your error being pointed out - as something useful to try to work through regarding how you feel in general about being mistaken so much and so often.

It's not so much your many mistakes you need to put right, you see, so much as your own attitude to the possibility of error in your own thoughts/beliefs. That's what the stuff about "my truth" etc. was about; getting a grip on this might help you come to terms with your reception on fwr, which you found so hostile.

Does that make any sense to you?