I know it's always been a thing, why is it? Why do girls want to show their bums? Is it for the boys? And just generally all the makeup and boob jobs etc. Help me understand as my dds skirt is getting shorter each day, still not up to her arse thankfully.
I hate it but I also feel like I'm being a prude or something, they can dress how they want etc but I don't believe this is what they really want, is it? To be looked at as objects?
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mooshed · 07/06/2022 13:46
jaffacakesareepic · 07/06/2022 14:03
Do you feel the same way when you see topless men walking around (appreciating you may live in a place in the uk where this is less commonplace)
Its just ive never see the same sentiments expressed about topless men - thats its all for the female gaze and they just want to be seen as objects.
And whilst it might be occasionally assumed that men are dressing like that to attract a woman, they are less likely to be considered 'objects'
I used to roll my skirt up at school. Im not saying i wouldnt have minded a bit of appreciation from the guys but i didnt consider myself an object and to be honest i did it more to fit in and be 'one of the girls' than for a boys attention.
Society may consider girls objects for the male gaze but i dont think teenage girls always see themselves that way regardless of how they dress
SallyWD · 07/06/2022 14:09
I disagree. I think women actually get away with wearing more revealing clothes than men. If I go out on a Saturday night I see a lot of breasts and arse on display! I'm not judging, I couldn't care less what they wear. If it makes them feel sexy or confident then fine. However, men don't draw attention to their attributes in the same way. Can you imagine a man wearing trousers so tight that you could see the outline of his penis and testicles? I'm not talking about the normal trouser bulge that's unavoidable but something more explicit. People would think it was gross - not empowering! And yes I've seen many people tutting and commenting when a man walks around topless. Just yesterday a man was told to cover up when he went topless in to the supermarket.
jaffacakesareepic · 07/06/2022 14:03
Do you feel the same way when you see topless men walking around (appreciating you may live in a place in the uk where this is less commonplace)
Its just ive never see the same sentiments expressed about topless men - thats its all for the female gaze and they just want to be seen as objects.
And whilst it might be occasionally assumed that men are dressing like that to attract a woman, they are less likely to be considered 'objects'
I used to roll my skirt up at school. Im not saying i wouldnt have minded a bit of appreciation from the guys but i didnt consider myself an object and to be honest i did it more to fit in and be 'one of the girls' than for a boys attention.
Society may consider girls objects for the male gaze but i dont think teenage girls always see themselves that way regardless of how they dress
Sparklybutold · 07/06/2022 14:21
@mooshed
I think a lot of it is socialization in what a girl/woman is. A few days ago someone posted a link of a bat costume for kids - the boys was covered up, whereas the girls was shorter with ripped tights and make up. The kids were no older than 8. Th sexualisation of clothes starts from babies. Baby girls - lots of leggings, whereas boys have lots of joggrs to choose from.
dummyd · 07/06/2022 14:22
Do you feel the same way when you see topless men walking around (appreciating you may live in a place in the uk where this is less commonplace)
Someone always says this, but women aren't looking at a topless man and getting a boner, wanting to shag. They don't look at him and judge his sexuality. It's just not comparable. Not really expressing an opinion about it, just saying.
I don't wear short skirt but do go bra less, not judging, but it's not the same as a bloke doing it because women don't objectify men in the same way.
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jaffacakesareepic · 07/06/2022 14:17
I wasnt saying that women dont wear more revealing clothes, I was questioning the short skirt = object for the male gaze, topless man = inaapropriate but not 'object'for female gaze, its more the reaction than the action i was talking about
Admittedly i lived in an area for years where topless men in summer on the highstreet and in the supermarket was the norm and this isnt the case across the whole uk so my experience differs to many people
SallyWD · 07/06/2022 14:09
I disagree. I think women actually get away with wearing more revealing clothes than men. If I go out on a Saturday night I see a lot of breasts and arse on display! I'm not judging, I couldn't care less what they wear. If it makes them feel sexy or confident then fine. However, men don't draw attention to their attributes in the same way. Can you imagine a man wearing trousers so tight that you could see the outline of his penis and testicles? I'm not talking about the normal trouser bulge that's unavoidable but something more explicit. People would think it was gross - not empowering! And yes I've seen many people tutting and commenting when a man walks around topless. Just yesterday a man was told to cover up when he went topless in to the supermarket.
jaffacakesareepic · 07/06/2022 14:03
Do you feel the same way when you see topless men walking around (appreciating you may live in a place in the uk where this is less commonplace)
Its just ive never see the same sentiments expressed about topless men - thats its all for the female gaze and they just want to be seen as objects.
And whilst it might be occasionally assumed that men are dressing like that to attract a woman, they are less likely to be considered 'objects'
I used to roll my skirt up at school. Im not saying i wouldnt have minded a bit of appreciation from the guys but i didnt consider myself an object and to be honest i did it more to fit in and be 'one of the girls' than for a boys attention.
Society may consider girls objects for the male gaze but i dont think teenage girls always see themselves that way regardless of how they dress
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