Amber Heard&Johnny Depp post verdict

[Miscfeminista]

Continuation of previous thread:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/feminism/4560089-amber-heardjohnny-depp-verdict?page=1

and the one before(during trial):

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4552076-amber-heardjohnny-depp-trial?page=36&reply=117586863

Also, refresher on DV:

www.womensaid.org.uk/information-support/what-is-domestic-abuse/recognising-domestic-abuse/

Do, I would say the same myself.

However I would also point out there’s a difference between sensing something is amiss with someone you live with based in subtle changes in behaviour, language, appearance, demeanour etc and believing you have psychic insight through a screen into someone you don’t know.

"Spidey senses"

A well known MN term for women supporting other women who are being cheated on and/or abused.

Iris says that's bullshit.

JD: I called security as you were getting out of control

AH: aren't you "admirable" Johnny

No I haven’t, but I acknowledge that. And my impression of the case is based on evidence not woo.

"However I would also point out there’s a difference between sensing something is amiss with someone you live with based in subtle changes in behaviour, language, appearance, demeanour etc and believing you have psychic insight through a screen into someone you don’t know"

You don't know her either so your opinion doesn't supersede mine. You can't target and try to gaslight me all you like, I've got the t shirt and I see you

"No I haven’t, but I acknowledge that. And my impression of the case is based on evidence not woo"

That's why she lost. To a jury this time.

Not woo

Would you like some more salt to throw??.

The definition of ‘spidey senses’ indicates some kind of keen perception/intuition - it does not refer to support.

Given that I support people for a living you’re not likely to get far down that line anyway.

Iris

You carry on trying to disparage the thousands of threads on MN because you're obsessed with Amber heard

Technically they’ve won one and lost one. Although I think have both lost far more than gained.

You’re rather imploding into personal attacks @TiddyTidTwo so I’m going to step away.

I think the verdict was correct based upon the evidence. However, they both suffered abuse as a child which makes them both victims in that sense.

With regards to who was the victim in their relationship, I think they were both abusive in different ways towards each other but Amber seemed far more abusive than Johnny.

Johnny was emotionally abusive in the sense of the names he called her and how he spoke to her in general, in addition to writing on mirrors and counter tops etc. He also drunk a lot of alcohol as well as abusing drugs. I do have respect for him for owning up to what he did wrong.

Amber was physically, psychologically and emotionally abusive to him which is evident in the recordings we heard. She minimised hitting him and mocked him for complaining about being hit. She was also a drunk and dabbled in drugs.

I think both of them should just lay it to rest now and move on. Have nothing to do with each other ever again and both of them not speak about the other in public.

"Johnny was emotionally abusive in the sense of the names he called her and how he spoke to her in general, in addition to writing on mirrors and counter tops etc. He also drunk a lot of alcohol as well as abusing drugs. I do have respect for him for owning up to what he did wrong"

So did she but she won't admit that but on the whole your post is right imo

"I think both of them should just lay it to rest now and move on. Have nothing to do with each other ever again and both of them not speak about the other in public"

I absolutely agree with this

Except she isn't. She's a typical rejected narcissist. Her bag carrying eve barlow posting horrible shit but not allowing any replies and her lawyer, Elaine, DDD, doubling down on the defamation. I hope he sues then both, but he won't.

I felt sorry for Elaine in the trial but she's since come out, lying, gaslighting and looking a complete twat.

@TiddyTidTwo I agree with you. I don't think Amber can cope with being wronged. She won't be able to cope with the public rejection as her reputation means everything to her so I think she will keep fighting this.

@TiddyTidTwo I thought the same as Elaine too and I felt sorry for her and thought that she's only trying to do her job. But she's too emotionally invested for a lawyer and I feel it's a bad move to go public and twist the facts like she has done.

Rosie. I'm am absolute advocate for women. I've endured mens patriarchial SHIT.

But I will not side with a liar.

I won't

I know if 4 other men in similar

Sorry @Robin233 are you saying you personally have knowledge of four men falsely accused of rape? And you're certain each allegation is false? I can't quite get my head around that.

Elaine using the UK trial, knowing FULL well she was lying on national tv saying Amber won that case. Like it was truth Wtf? Amber was a witness only she won fuck all ? Elaine's now lost her credibility as well

The UK trial is a sham based on a corrupt judge and perjury as we've since found out.

That's the problem women face. What makes by blood boil about AH is she's made that worse by accusing him via MSM, dubious evidence then doubling down on live tv and expecting people to believe her
She never accused him of rape or assault on MSM, he bought that on himself by suing first the sun then her.
His team insisted on trial on TV, obviously she's going to say what she's said all along.
"Expecting people to believe her"?? It's a court case, you don't get to choose to go.

Plus, I don't appreciate 99% of rape victims not getting justice being described as "a problem women face". It's fucking horrific and says a lot about society that you can glibly wave that away while simultaneously talking about misandry.

@TiddyTidTwo exactly! The U.K. trial wasn't even against Amber Heard. She wasn't a party to the proceedings so she therefore did not have to disclose everything like she did in the USA trial. Effectively, Amber could withhold anything that made her look bad.

I personally wasn't keen on Elaine and she came across like she didn't know what she was doing which was concerning.

I agree that the U.K. trial was a sham. The Judges reasoning made no sense. He seemed to apply one set of rules for one side and another set of rules for another. I have never ever read a case where the Judge does that which is very concerning.

Probably indicates where they hang out on the Internet

"He seemed to apply one set of rules for one side and another set of rules for another. I have never ever read a case where the Judge does that which is very concerning"

Of course he did. His son was implicated.

He's as corrupt as those who hid all the abuse of girls in West Yorkshire, the police and Saville etc etc etc

But as soon as JD trial comes on our justice system is totally not corrupt 😂😂🤣 fucking laughable

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻^ Totally agree.

AH comes across as very unlikeable, whereas JD comes across as the complete opposite. He took responsibility for at least some of his ugly behaviour, she took none. She came across as a liar.

@TiddyTidTwo Our justice system is most definitely corrupt, along with the police, social services etc. Seen it all for myself and how they cover for each other even when they are in the wrong.